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Archiving of feedback broken on enwiki
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Archiving disabled in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/84469/

Archiving seems to be broken as the bot/job is repeatedly archiving the same set of feedback, but the items haven't been archived.

Relatedly, the log entry should only be created if archiving actually succeeded

01:13 (Article feedback activity log)‎ . . [Article Feedback V5‎ (57×)]

	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:13 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #755805 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)
	01:12 . . Article Feedback V5 (Talk | block) archived feedback post #759669 on Cloud computing ‎(Archived after 30 days of editor inactivity)

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• bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Lowest.Nov 22 2014, 1:52 AM
• bzimport added a project: ArticleFeedbackv5.
• bzimport set Reference to bz54197.
• bzimport added a subscriber: Unknown Object (MLST).
Reedy created this task.Sep 17 2013, 12:15 AM
Reedy added a comment.Sep 17 2013, 12:20 AM

Log for anyone interested https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/articlefeedbackv5

Nemo_bis added a comment.Sep 19 2013, 7:05 PM

(In reply to comment #1)

Log for anyone interested
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/articlefeedbackv5

That is, the ~18k log entries starting from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/articlefeedbackv5&offset=20130917002320&limit=2500&type=articlefeedbackv5&user=

matthiasmullie added a comment.Sep 30 2013, 4:03 PM

Brain dump:

Looking at e.g. feedback #755805 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ArticleFeedbackv5/Cloud_computing/755805), this feedback entry is actually archived. DB data confirms: aft_archive = 1.

Only the maintenance script, which has since been killed, can mark feedback as archived. Activity log confirms the last action was performed by Article Feedback v5.

Where-condition, executed against slave, is: array( 'aft_archive = 0', "aft_archive_date <= '$now'" ). This means that this post should no longer appear when queried for "posts to be archived".

I'd say that perhaps slave is/was lagging, but the wait is right there in the code, and I'll assume it works:

wfWaitForSlaves( false, false, $wgArticleFeedbackv5Cluster );

Also, the script had been going at it for 10+ minutes (another feedback entry for even way longer) until it was killed, so that lag would have to have been pretty bad. This is a highly unlikely cause.

It looks like the archiving kicked in right after a person manually un-archived the feedback.
*ERROR #1*: archive date should be re-calculated after a person un-archives feedback (or nulled completely), not be the original archive date (which results in immediate re-archive).

(probably unrelated) *ERROR #2*: maintenance script nulls aft_archive_date, but the subsequent update() call will fill out that value again.

Have to run for now, will get these fixed and continue figuring out why exactly archive broke.

• MZMcBride added a comment.Dec 2 2013, 6:52 AM

Fabrice or Matthias: is anyone actively working on this issue? If not, it may make sense to disable AFTv5 on Wikimedia wikis if it can't be actively maintained.

For reference: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Article_feedback/status#2013-10-monthly.

Nemo_bis added a comment.Dec 2 2013, 6:59 AM

(In reply to comment #4)

Fabrice or Matthias: is anyone actively working on this issue? If not, it may
make sense to disable AFTv5 on Wikimedia wikis if it can't be actively
maintained.

Seconded. If I'm not mistaken, there is no longer any "Archive" filter anywhere: it seems ArticleFeedbackv5AutoArchiveEnabled controls both past and future archival, so that setting it false actually de-archived humongous masses of unreviewed feedback, with all the vandalism they include.

Nemo_bis added a comment.Feb 11 2014, 8:17 AM

(In reply to comment #5)

(In reply to comment #4)

Fabrice or Matthias: is anyone actively working on this issue? If not, it may
make sense to disable AFTv5 on Wikimedia wikis if it can't be actively
maintained.

Seconded. If I'm not mistaken, there is no longer any "Archive" filter
anywhere: it seems ArticleFeedbackv5AutoArchiveEnabled controls both past and
future archival, so that setting it false actually de-archived humongous
masses
of unreviewed feedback, with all the vandalism they include.

After two more months of useless waiting, this is now finally proceeding: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/112639/ , bug 61163.

Aklapper added a comment.Feb 28 2014, 4:37 PM

[Lowering priority to reflect reality, as AFTv5 is not very actively being worked on anymore.]

Liuxinyu970226 subscribed.Nov 28 2014, 7:37 AM
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Jdforrester-WMF closed this task as Declined.Mar 5 2015, 10:03 PM
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All development work on AbuseFilter v.5 (and indeed, previous versions) is halted. The project is archived, so having open tasks is inappropriate. Consequently, I'm closing all tasks.

He7d3r added a comment.Mar 8 2015, 2:39 PM

AbuseFilter --> ArticleFeedback...

ashley mentioned this in T144677: +2 for Jack Phoenix in mediawiki/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5.Sep 3 2016, 7:13 PM
Gryllida added subscribers: ashley, Gryllida.Jan 2 2017, 1:55 AM

@Jdforrester-WMF @ashley

All development work on AbuseFilter v.5 (and indeed, previous versions) is halted. The project is archived, so having open tasks is inappropriate. Consequently, I'm closing all tasks.

The development has resumed.

May we re-open all tasks, such as for example this one, so that interested volunteers may start writing patches for them and submit these patches for review?

Nemo_bis reopened this task as Open.Jan 2 2017, 8:27 AM

It's certainly good to reopen reports on potentially critical bugs, though this one is probably quite hard to debug.

SamanthaNguyen moved this task from Backlog to Bugs on the ArticleFeedbackv5 board.Jan 2 2017, 8:31 AM
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