Change 194379 had a related patch set uploaded (by Ricordisamoa):
A global user page's title is only known if there are contents in it

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/194379

I strongly support this idea. User should have possibility to decide if he wants to have a page in a project, or no. For example some retired user from certain wikiproject, with deleted user page, probably does not want to display his Meta page content on that wiki and also probably prefers a red-linked username instead of one blue-linked which may suggest user is active further.

Probably the best way is to add in user preferences option to enable/disable global user page feature (and additionally one more option to enable/disable global user custom scripts)

In T90849#2028514, @XXN wrote:

I strongly support this idea. User should have possibility to decide if he wants to have a page in a project, or no. For example some retired user from certain wikiproject, with deleted user page, probably does not want to display his Meta page content on that wiki and also probably prefers a red-linked username instead of one blue-linked which may suggest user is active further.

The current opt-out system has no granularity, as far as I can tell. The opt-out applies to all wikis.

We should consider a local wiki user preference, but I'm wary of additional user preferences, especially ones targeted for retired users.

The use-case of someone retiring from or quitting de.wikinews.org and not wanting a user page there, but simultaneously creating/keeping a meta.wikimedia.org user page, seems pretty limited.

Change 303912 had a related patch set uploaded (by Legoktm):
Implement magic word based opt-out

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/303912

In T90849#2538168, @gerritbot wrote:

Change 303912 had a related patch set uploaded (by Legoktm):
Implement magic word based opt-out

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/303912

This approach is opt-out at a global and binary level. As implemented, it would not allow disabling having a global user page on a per-wiki basis.

In thinking about this task again, I'll point out (probably repeat) that currently:

• a user can opt out of having a global user page everywhere by not having a user page on Meta-Wiki;
• a user can opt out of having a global user page everywhere by wrapping everything in <noinclude></noinclude> or having a blank global user page on Meta-Wiki; and
• a user can opt out of having a global user page on a specific wiki by creating a local user page.

The use-cases we seem to be discussing are:

• a user wants to have a global user page on Meta-Wiki, but because of retirement or some other reason, wants to opt out of having a specific local user page altogether (not even a "this user is retired" message, as though would disable the global page, of course); or
• a user wants to only have local user pages, including on Meta-Wiki (the large majority of users currently have only local user pages and no global user page on Meta-Wiki, as I understand it).

Are there other use-cases that are missing? If it's just these two, I remain unconvinced that here's a real problem in need of solving right now.

(I thought these issues were discussed in another Phabricator Maniphest task, but if it exists, I can't find it at the moment.)

Change 194379 abandoned by Legoktm:
A global user page's title is only known if there are contents in it

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/194379

In T90849#2538893, @MZMcBride wrote:

In T90849#2538168, @gerritbot wrote:

Change 303912 had a related patch set uploaded (by Legoktm):
Implement magic word based opt-out

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/303912

This approach is opt-out at a global and binary level. As implemented, it would not allow disabling having a global user page on a per-wiki basis.

Yes.

In thinking about this task again, I'll point out (probably repeat) that currently:

• a user can opt out of having a global user page everywhere by not having a user page on Meta-Wiki;

This will always be supported.

• a user can opt out of having a global user page everywhere by wrapping everything in <noinclude></noinclude> or having a blank global user page on Meta-Wiki; and

I want to remove this functionality.

• a user can opt out of having a global user page on a specific wiki by creating a local user page.

This will probably always be supported.

The use-cases we seem to be discussing are:

• a user wants to have a global user page on Meta-Wiki, but because of retirement or some other reason, wants to opt out of having a specific local user page altogether (not even a "this user is retired" message, as though would disable the global page, of course); or
• a user wants to only have local user pages, including on Meta-Wiki (the large majority of users currently have only local user pages and no global user page on Meta-Wiki, as I understand it).

Are there other use-cases that are missing? If it's just these two, I remain unconvinced that here's a real problem in need of solving right now.

The problem is that I would like to kill the opt-out of noinclude tags because the implementation is bad, and I don't want it in core as part of shadow namespaces.

Change 303912 merged by jenkins-bot:
Implement magic word based opt-out

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/303912