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Beeswaxcandle

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Jun 13 2017

Beeswaxcandle added a comment to T30856: Remove classic edit toolbar from core.

I think that I had a misconception here. This is indeed about removing it from MediaWiki without providing a replacement.

There may be a replacement; that depends upon whether anyone volunteers to write it. There is no technical impediment to copying this into a local gadget or making a user script that could be run by interested individuals on all the wikis.

In fact, this may already have been done, because we have a lot more people at two wikis saying "I'm using this" than the preferences database knows about. Speaking of which:

@Beeswaxcandle, please look at the Editing tab of Special:Preferences at the English Wikisource. The actual prefs settings matters more than your editing toolbar (because the appearance could have already been replaced by a local gadget or user script). Please tell me what the settings are for the section of prefs that's shown in the first screenshot at T30856#3335615 .

Jun 13 2017, 7:22 AM · User-notice, MW-1.29-release-notes, Patch-For-Review, Technical-Debt, JavaScript, MediaWiki-Page-editing

Jun 10 2017

Beeswaxcandle added a comment to T30856: Remove classic edit toolbar from core.

I had the sudden thought to check what my toolbar on wikispecies and enwikiversity is. It's the "classic". I haven't edited on either since before the "enhanced" toolbar was made available. This suggests to me that every editor who was editing prior to 2013(?) on a project and who didn't opt in to the enhanced toolbar is still using the "classic"—many of them without realising that there is an alternative.

Jun 10 2017, 1:50 AM · User-notice, MW-1.29-release-notes, Patch-For-Review, Technical-Debt, JavaScript, MediaWiki-Page-editing

Jun 9 2017

Beeswaxcandle added a comment to T30856: Remove classic edit toolbar from core.

Given that I don't know anyone with Javascript as a second language

https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=User:Beeswaxcandle/common.js&action=history shows that you've edited that page more than 300 times, and not just to copy and paste someone else's work. Everything on that page is (supposed to be) Javascript. Are you sure you don't know any Javascript?

Regardless of your belief in your proficiency, these lines:

// == SIDEBAR TOOLS ==
/**
 * WikiEditor specific
 *
 * Custom buttons ONLY when Prefs set to - Enable enhanced editing toolbar - is selected,
 * Enable wizards for... - must not be selected. Show [old]edit toolbar - should be off.
 * based upon - https://github.com/he7d3r/mw-gadget-ExtraEditButtons
 */

make me suspect that you are already not using the editor in question.

The editor in question can be seen only when "Show edit toolbar" is enabled but "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" is disabled in Special:Preferences – which is the opposite of what this line requires. Could you go check your preferences (the Editing tab) and tell me which items you have selected/unselected?

Jun 9 2017, 8:19 PM · User-notice, MW-1.29-release-notes, Patch-For-Review, Technical-Debt, JavaScript, MediaWiki-Page-editing
Beeswaxcandle added a comment to T30856: Remove classic edit toolbar from core.

@Jdforrester-WMF Have you looked at this usage for the Wikisources? I would think that numbers of the Wikisources utilise these toolbars (I know that I do). For the work that we do it is a cleaner and easier toolbar to use, *and* it is far easier to learn to code for the old toolbar than the new.

Sure:

WikiTotalActive last 6moActive last 1mo
enwikisource100
ruwikisource110
frwikisource000
dewikisource000
eswikisource000
ptwikisource000
Jun 9 2017, 7:51 AM · User-notice, MW-1.29-release-notes, Patch-For-Review, Technical-Debt, JavaScript, MediaWiki-Page-editing

Jun 8 2017

Beeswaxcandle added a comment to T30856: Remove classic edit toolbar from core.

The "new" toolbar is hopeless for me. I use a laptop with a smallish screen for all Wikimedia activity. The vast majority of that activity is on enWS. The narrow height of the "classic" toolbar is ideal in the ProofreadPage Extension. I have tried to use the "new" toolbar and it increased the amount of scrolling I needed to do, which caused a marked decrease in productivity. It simply uses far too much screen real estate for me to function adequately as a normal user.

Jun 8 2017, 7:27 AM · User-notice, MW-1.29-release-notes, Patch-For-Review, Technical-Debt, JavaScript, MediaWiki-Page-editing