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make ContentTranslation messages that mention language names read more naturally
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The following ContentTranslation messages mention language names:

  • cx-entrypoint-title
  • cx-entrypoint-dialog-page-doesnt-exist-yet
  • cx-entrypoint-dialog-title-in
  • cx-entrypoint-dialog-button-translate-from
  • cx-tools-mt-not-available
  • cx-error-page-not-found
  • cx-sourceselector-dialog-error-page-and-title-exist
  • cx-sourceselector-dialog-error-page-exists
  • cx-sourceselector-dialog-error-no-source-article
  • cx-trend-translations-to

They tend to use autonyms as parameter values instead of actual language names. It would be much more natural to get them to show full sentences with full language names. This will require fixing {{GRAMMAR}} rules in some languages and probably loading the translated names from CLDR, but it will improve the experience.

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Amire80 created this task.Jul 11 2015, 12:21 PM
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Ricordisamoa subscribed.Jul 11 2015, 2:23 PM

E.g. cx-entrypoint-dialog-button-translate-from returns "Traduci da italiano" while "Traduci dall'italiano" would sound more natural.

Amire80 added a comment.EditedJul 11 2015, 2:39 PM
In T105588#1447377, @Ricordisamoa wrote:

E.g. cx-entrypoint-dialog-button-translate-from returns "Traduci da italiano" while "Traduci dall'italiano" would sound more natural.

Yes, this is precisely the idea.

This will probably require more {{GRAMMAR}} rules at least for some languages. I made it for Russian at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/172501/ . Italian may be more complicated or less complicated.

I am also making a special page for testing this with all language names in a given language - MediaWiki-extensions-TestLanguageNameGrammar. I hope to deploy it in some public site some time soon.

Amire80 moved this task from Needs Triage to CX6 on the ContentTranslation board.Jul 11 2015, 7:32 PM
Amire80 moved this task from Backlog to Bugs on the ContentTranslation-Release6 board.Jul 11 2015, 8:32 PM
Amire80 merged a task: T105641: Use localized language name in 'cx-entrypoint-dialog-page-doesnt-exist-yet'.Jul 19 2015, 4:25 AM
Amire80 added subscribers: Matthiasb, Umherirrender.
Pginer-WMF moved this task from CX6 to CX7 on the ContentTranslation board.Jul 21 2015, 4:43 PM
Pginer-WMF removed a project: ContentTranslation-Release6.Jul 21 2015, 4:50 PM
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• Purodha subscribed.Sep 17 2015, 5:53 PM
Amire80 mentioned this in T112349: Inform users what happened if their query is forwarded to another wiki because of language detection.Sep 26 2015, 7:09 PM
Amire80 moved this task from CX7 to CX8 candidates on the ContentTranslation board.Oct 19 2015, 9:06 AM
Amire80 added a project: Essential-Work.Oct 22 2015, 9:28 AM
Amire80 moved this task from CX8 candidates to CX9 candidates on the ContentTranslation board.Jan 20 2016, 10:35 PM
Amire80 moved this task from CX9 candidates to Bugs on the ContentTranslation board.Apr 20 2016, 12:38 PM
Liuxinyu970226 subscribed.May 7 2016, 12:34 AM
Liuxinyu970226 added a comment.May 7 2016, 2:36 AM

Not sure if my comment fits this task or not, it seems that the cx-sourceselector-dialog-error-page-and-title-exist and cx-sourceselector-dialog-error-page-exists are shown inversely.

Umherirrender unsubscribed.Jan 1 2018, 2:34 PM
Trizek-WMF subscribed.Jun 1 2018, 9:16 AM

New feedback about cx-entrypoint-dialog-page-doesnt-exist-yet on fr.wp:

  • "Cette page n’existe pas encore en English. Voulez-vous la créer ?" instead of "Cette page n’existe pas encore en anglais. Voulez-vous la créer ?"
  • "Cette page n’existe pas encore en 中文. Voulez-vous la créer ?" instead of "Cette page n’existe pas encore en japonais. Voulez-vous la créer ?" (when the characters are different, that's really funny)
Framawiki subscribed.Jun 3 2018, 2:14 PM
Arrbee moved this task from Bugs to Check & Move on the ContentTranslation board.Jun 24 2019, 1:47 PM
Arrbee lowered the priority of this task from Medium to Low.Jun 24 2019, 2:13 PM
Arrbee moved this task from Check & Move to Enhancements on the ContentTranslation board.
Amire80 added a subtask: T226981: Make it convenient to mention language names in messages naturally with all the necessary grammar.Jul 1 2019, 11:52 AM
Amire80 removed a subtask: T226981: Make it convenient to mention language names in messages naturally with all the necessary grammar.Jul 8 2019, 2:06 PM
Amire80 added a parent task: T226981: Make it convenient to mention language names in messages naturally with all the necessary grammar.
Aklapper removed Amire80 as the assignee of this task.Jun 19 2020, 4:29 PM
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