In T422544#11804103, @Trizek-WMF wrote:

I'll post at en:WP:VPT on the 17th.

I'll post at en:WP:VPT on the 17th.

Thanks! :)

If it only impacts tech audiences, in particular specialized ones, then yes, mediawiki-api-announce is a better option.

In T420154#11779020, @Urbanecm_WMF wrote:

In T420154#11778975, @KStoller-WMF wrote:

@Trizek-WMF - Can you take a look at this and decide if this needs to be added to tech news?

Impact: Tools like Tool-echo-chamber are currently unable to read notifications (they'll need to request access to the "View my notifications" grant, which will be available once the pending patches merge).

When is the end date for this A/B test?

Possible inspirations:

Thanks!

In T420748#11772733, @Raine wrote:

Can we get a status update from the CommRel side please?

Done on my side.

Post-switch report

Nice!

In T413974#11749381, @Blake wrote:

The read-only time is over and the switchover has been completed successfully. Thank you!

Crap, I'm still UTC+1. Sorry!

I haven't noticed the read-only time. Was it shorter than usual?

Send the message to communities

I skipped this part. Many colleagues questioned the relevance of the MassMessage as we already used Tech News to inform communities. Messaging fatigue is real, some wikis only have old announcements at their community boards. Let's see how it goes without messaging.

Any deployment date scheduled?

In T414096#11738035, @Blake wrote:

@Trizek-WMF, what is the 'wmfall' messaging task referenced in the description? What that is and how to do it are not currently in the SRE documentation for the switchover. Thanks!

Thank you Blake.

In T414096#11698303, @Trizek-WMF wrote:

@STei-WMF, can I let you do all announcement in Tech News ? Thanks!

@Blake, can you tell me who will inform Movement Communication (in this case, me) of the advancement and success of the process? I need to know so that I can breathe. :p If the process goes longer, it is important to keep us informed so that we can reassure community members who'd ask for an update.

@STei-WMF, can I let you do all announcement in Tech News ? Thanks!

Hi @Blake, I'll be your MovComms support for this. Any notable changes in the process since the last switch?

I think @Urbanecm_WMF is the best person to answer, as he built all this. :)

Still very long, no? :)

This was concluded a while ago during Ambassadors meetings.

@MNeisler when do we plan to stop this experiment? I'm asking as we only have a few days left before the end-of-year break. :)

This blogpost was shared with me that touches on the usage of AI for answering technical questions at Anthropic by someone who spent a lot of time helping newcomers. Very quick read and fun (though dark)! It touches on the promise: the rate of questions skyrocketed after switching to AI support, presumably because people have lots of questions and seem more likely to ask them when the bar is very low. The concern in the piece relates to their role being automated away but I wonder about the subtext about them as a senior member of their community losing their sense of value and connection with these newcomers. It's possible that they actually feel that they can engage more deeply with the questions that still do come through, but they don't explicitly say anything about that one way or another.

Everything is ready on my side.

I contacted the user, which I consider as resolving the task.

All wikis have been reviewed. Some were missing sections, no matter if they were concerned by the populating script.

In T410469#11446489, @Urbanecm_WMF wrote:

I accidentally posted the wrong list of wikis on the task before. This is the actual list of wikis without excluded sections

I'm checking all wikis, with or without excluded sections, as I found several missing sections on the "included" list as well. :)

@Urbanecm_WMF lease let me know when it is ready so that I can manually populate the wikis.

Keeping this task open we hve the second round of wikis to cover. The process is documented in T410469: Add a Link: Rollout "Add a Link" task to remaining Wikipedias that have V2 model support but don't yet have access to "Add a Link".

Cool, thanks. I'll work on this tomorrow.

In T410469#11428797, @Urbanecm_WMF wrote:

@Trizek-WMF This is the complete list. We have 33 wikis in the list in total, 18 of them do not have excluded sections, so about 54.5%.

In T410469#11428719, @Urbanecm_WMF wrote:

I can create the full list and post it here.

In T410469#11421674, @KStoller-WMF wrote:

@Trizek-WMF - for these small wikis where we don't have excluded section data, do you think we can still release (since they have the ability to set this up via Community Configuration)?
Does the Edit Tag help doc make it clear how to adjust the associated Community Configuration?

A few more details and sources. :)

A number of editors think their mentor is a bot or AI.

The English Wikipedia 2025 Successful Newcomers Survey, which is not yet public, highlighted this, among with other interesting elements.

Links are added in at Japanese and Chinese, while Urdu remains blank at the moment (this wiki is much smaller).

In T407818#11411752, @Pppery wrote:

This does not seem to have actually been sent in the Tech News issue it was supposed to be sent in.

We finished this evaluation, with all languages listed participating (except one).

In T396155#11410309, @Urbanecm_WMF wrote:

In T396155#11410301, @Trizek-WMF wrote:

Do we have a list of the messages that have been changed? IF so, can we list them in the task description, so that translators can have a look at them? Thanks!

We're adding a bunch of new messages, not changing any existing ones. Specifically:

• confirmemail_html_subject
• confirmemail_html_logo_alttext
• confirmemail_html_par1
• confirmemail_html_par2
• confirmemail_html_button_label
• confirmemail_plaintext_button_label
• confirmemail_html_footer
• confirmemail_plaintext_footer

Those messages do not exist yet, but will be added once the code review is finished (should be done by the end of week).

Do we have a list of the messages that have been changed? IF so, can we list them in the task description, so that translators can have a look at them? Thanks!

I added this task to the next Tech News issue as a FYI.

We deployed the feature without following what is described in this task. Communities have been made aware of the project through other opportunities (in-person meetings, conferences, Diff post...).

As only T285235: Provide a Growth mentor for 100% of new accounts at Spanish Wikipedia remains open, I consider this task as closed.

Stepping back as an assignee as @STei-WMF currently covers the removal of LiquidThreads from the wikis, which pauses the current work on Flow.

We did it.
T409297: Phase 6: Offer Usability Improvements as default-on feature at English Wikipedia remains.

Done.

For Monday Nov 24 issue:

Add a link will be deployed to Chinese, Japanese, & Urdu Wikipedia on December 2,using a new model for links suggestions. This is the first time these communities will have access to Add a link. These communities have been contacted, in order to configure this feature through Community Configuration.