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Insert image in content immediately after it's uploaded, skipping the "General settings" step
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Skip the "Use this image" button step, and skip the "General settings" step. Just add the image in the content after upload is complete.

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OpenNoneT115858 Design improvements for mw.ForeignStructuredUpload.BookletLayout
OpenNoneT115865 Insert image in content immediately after it's uploaded, skipping the "General settings" step
DuplicateNoneT115864 Figure out if the description of the image can be used as the caption on-wiki
OpenFeatureNoneT53032 When inserting an image, set its caption by default to be the Commons image description
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• Prtksxna created this task.Oct 19 2015, 2:11 PM
• Prtksxna raised the priority of this task from to Medium.
• Prtksxna updated the task description. (Show Details)
• Prtksxna added projects: Design, Multimedia, VisualEditor.
• Prtksxna added a subtask: T115864: Figure out if the description of the image can be used as the caption on-wiki.
• Prtksxna added subscribers: Pginer-WMF, Jdforrester-WMF, Aklapper and 2 others.
• Esanders renamed this task from Use image description as caption and insert image in content after its uploaded to Insert image in content after it's uploaded .Oct 20 2015, 9:21 AM
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Removed "use image description as caption" as that is a matter for the parent bug.

I agree we shouldn't have the image metadata page, but currently the upload flow shows no preview. I didn't plan for that to stay the case though. If we show a thumbnail on the 2nd page we can definitely skip the image metadata page.

• Esanders added a subtask: T53032: When inserting an image, set its caption by default to be the Commons image description.Oct 20 2015, 9:35 AM
• Esanders added a comment.Oct 20 2015, 9:40 AM

So I've marked this as blocked by T53032 but our case is slightly simpler because we're dealing with a new image so we know the description won't contain a bunch of templates and tables yet. I think we have an opportunity here to explain the difference between description and caption and make it simple for the user to fill them out (including the case where they are the same).

Jdforrester-WMF renamed this task from Insert image in content after it's uploaded to Insert image in content immediately after it's uploaded, skipping the "General settings" step.Oct 20 2015, 7:17 PM
Jdforrester-WMF added a project: VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Media.
Jdforrester-WMF moved this task from To Triage to Blocked on the VisualEditor board.
• Prtksxna added a comment.Oct 26 2015, 12:06 PM
In T115865#1737696, @Esanders wrote:

I think we have an opportunity here to explain the difference between description and caption and make it simple for the user to fill them out (including the case where they are the same).

I agree completely. Lets try and tackle the image preview (F2797201) step first as it is more straight forward.

Jdforrester-WMF edited a custom field.Nov 12 2015, 3:55 PM
MarkTraceur moved this task from Untriaged to Tracking on the Multimedia board.Dec 5 2016, 10:19 PM
• Prtksxna added a comment.Feb 28 2017, 3:05 PM

With T115860: Show image thumbnail in both steps of mw.ForeignStructuredUpload.BookletLayout resolved, should we remove the Use this image step?

• Prtksxna added a comment.Feb 28 2017, 3:41 PM
In T115865#1737696, @Esanders wrote:

So I've marked this as blocked by T53032 but our case is slightly simpler because we're dealing with a new image so we know the description won't contain a bunch of templates and tables yet.

In T53032#1745526, @Pginer-WMF wrote:

I also think that the need for this may be stronger when the user that uploaded the image is the same that is using it. So even if we are not considering adding the descriptions that others created for the file for now, I think we should at least consider it for the case of the uploading workflow inside VE (i.e., T115864).

I think we can use the description for the caption and maybe even alternate text. If we keep the text selected its easier for the user to completely change it too, if they so wish.

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I think we have an opportunity here to explain the difference between description and caption and make it simple for the user to fill them out (including the case where they are the same).

The field description is currently hidden behind the information icon. Are we ok with changing that?

Noting that the image description may be used as the caption during the upload process might be helpful too.

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I like the direction that @Esanders is heading here in terms of providing simple and contextual support text. Is there are pattern for this happening elsewhere?

• Deskana lowered the priority of this task from Medium to Low.Aug 31 2018, 10:12 AM
• Deskana moved this task from Blocked to Freezer on the VisualEditor board.Aug 31 2018, 10:16 AM
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