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Make content translation suggestion popup menu not intrusive
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Description

Popup menu suggesting users to use content translation appears every now and then despite a user has already chose not opting it. Users often forced to opt the extension to avoid the annoyance or tricked to enable the option if careless. No other beta feature shows such an intrusive behaviour.

Indian language wikis like Malayalam, Tamil, Hindi etc shows unnaturally large number of users using this feature compared to other beta features, although content generation through it is very low. It looks like this happens just because of it's intrusive character.

How to recreate the the issue:

  1. Search a non existing title in an Indian language wikipedia
  2. Click the red link in the result page
  3. Most probably content translation suggestion popup appears as part of the page which displaying editor

Screenshot:

Screenshot from 2019-01-14 22-05-44.png (768×1 px, 153 KB)

Event Timeline

@Praveenp: For future reference, please try to add appropriate project tags so the software maintainers can find this task.
(ContentTranslation maintainers will likely not see / follow tasks which are tagged only as Malayalam-Sites, I'm afraid.) :) Thanks!

I was trying to share the experience and reaction of local community (Malayalam wikimedians), hence the tag. I assure you that I'll try to add appropriate project tags. :-)

We have plans to update this invite (T216032), which will help with the current ticket.

@Pginer-WMF , while talking to @Praveenp about Boost at ml.wp, this task was brought up again. I see that the related task was actually resolved recently, so I think you two could synch on what, if anything, is left to do here? Thanks!

@Pginer-WMF , while talking to @Praveenp about Boost at ml.wp, this task was brought up again. I see that the related task was actually resolved recently, so I think you two could synch on what, if anything, is left to do here? Thanks!

During the beta period we wanted to make the tool visible to potential translators. Currently, we are reviewing the different entry points in preparation for moving the tool out of beta. In the redesign of this particular entry point (T216032) we considered different users feedback similar to @Praveenp to make the experience less intrusive.

In general, once the tool is provided by default, an option will be available in the settings to disable all entry points (T223896). Users not interested in translation will be able to disable this setting and won't see any translation related invite. In addition, to facilitate discovery a direct link to this setting is shown on the different invites. So a user seeing any invite the first time can easily discover the setting to disable all future invites.

Pikne subscribed.

It's not specific to Malayalam sites. It was reported years ago also for ru.wikipedia and fi.wikipedia (T122241). I can add that there have been similar complaints on et.wikipedia.

Significant outcome of years of agressive advertising is that for instance on et.wikipedia a bit less than 20% of users who enabled the beta feature are actual translators, per numbers shown in preferences and Special:CXStats. Which probably means that vast majority of users enable it only in order to get rid of the popups.

I understand it might be less relevant now that beta stage is about to end. Though, if you plan more similar campaigns, then there are plenty of examples of more decent popup implementations to model after, e.g. this one that generally doesn't keep coming back after being dismissed.

Nikerabbit subscribed.

Our plan is to solve this by moving all Wikipedias out of beta. Already 130 Wikipedias are out of beta.