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Copy: Improve the English labels of some ZObject's keys to be more understandable, and so encourage better translations
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Change the pre-set English labels of some keys so that they fit the copy of the designs of some custom-built components, and the titles can get translated using Wikifunctions as well. This is only for labels that correspond directly to a particular key.

We should leave this to immediately before launch, so that we can figure out exactly what English strings fit best with our requirements.

For the moment, these are the suggestions we've pinned down:

  • General views:
    • Z2K2: "Contents"
  • About widget:
    • Z2K3: "Name"
    • Z2K4: "Aliases"
    • Z2K5: "Description"
  • Implementation view:
    • Z16K1: "Programming language"
  • Other keys to contemplate:
    • Z8K1: "Arguments" vs. "Inputs"
    • Z8K2: "Return type" vs. "Output"

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Update function-schemata sub-module to HEAD (1c01f22)mediawiki/extensions/WikiLambdawmf/1.41.0-wmf.19+1 -1
Update function-schemata sub-module to HEAD (1c01f22)mediawiki/extensions/WikiLambdamaster+1 -1
i18n: Initial replacement with Amin's new languagemediawiki/extensions/WikiLambdamaster+107 -107
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Update function-schemata sub-module to HEAD (1c01f22)repos/abstract-wiki/wikifunctions/function-orchestrator!54jforrestersync-function-schematamain
Update function-schemata sub-module to HEAD (1c01f22)repos/abstract-wiki/wikifunctions/function-evaluator!31jforrestersync-function-schematamain
Update function-schemata sub-module to HEAD (1c01f22)repos/abstract-wiki/wikifunctions/wikilambda-cli!13jforrestersync-function-schematamain
definitions: Re-label all objects to drop the 'Z' per Aminrepos/abstract-wiki/wikifunctions/function-schemata!28jforresterT335583main
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gengh created this task.Apr 28 2023, 2:40 PM
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Jdforrester-WMF renamed this task from Copy: Change the value of the English monolingual string labels of some keys to the most appropriate copy to Copy: Improve the English labels of some ZObject's keys to be more understandable, and so encourage better translations.May 1 2023, 6:17 PM
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Change 940959 had a related patch set uploaded (by Jforrester; author: Jforrester):

[mediawiki/extensions/WikiLambda@master] i18n: Initial replacement with Amin's new language

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/940959

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jforrester opened https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/abstract-wiki/wikifunctions/function-schemata/-/merge_requests/28

definitions: Re-label all objects to drop the 'Z' per Amin

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jforrester merged https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/abstract-wiki/wikifunctions/function-schemata/-/merge_requests/28

definitions: Re-label all objects to drop the 'Z' per Amin

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Change 940959 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/extensions/WikiLambda@master] i18n: Initial replacement with Amin's new language

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/940959

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jforrester opened https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/abstract-wiki/wikifunctions/wikilambda-cli/-/merge_requests/13

Update function-schemata sub-module to HEAD (1c01f22)

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jforrester opened https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/abstract-wiki/wikifunctions/function-evaluator/-/merge_requests/31

Update function-schemata sub-module to HEAD (1c01f22)

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jforrester opened https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/abstract-wiki/wikifunctions/function-orchestrator/-/merge_requests/54

Update function-schemata sub-module to HEAD (1c01f22)

gerritbot added a comment.Jul 25 2023, 11:22 AM

Change 941384 had a related patch set uploaded (by Jforrester; author: Jforrester):

[mediawiki/extensions/WikiLambda@master] Update function-schemata sub-module to HEAD (1c01f22)

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/941384

CodeReviewBot added a comment.Jul 25 2023, 2:43 PM

apine merged https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/abstract-wiki/wikifunctions/function-orchestrator/-/merge_requests/54

Update function-schemata sub-module to HEAD (1c01f22)

CodeReviewBot added a comment.Jul 25 2023, 2:44 PM

apine merged https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/abstract-wiki/wikifunctions/function-evaluator/-/merge_requests/31

Update function-schemata sub-module to HEAD (1c01f22)

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apine merged https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/abstract-wiki/wikifunctions/wikilambda-cli/-/merge_requests/13

Update function-schemata sub-module to HEAD (1c01f22)

gerritbot added a comment.Jul 25 2023, 7:59 PM

Change 941384 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/extensions/WikiLambda@master] Update function-schemata sub-module to HEAD (1c01f22)

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/941384

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[mediawiki/extensions/WikiLambda@wmf/1.41.0-wmf.19] Update function-schemata sub-module to HEAD (1c01f22)

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https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/941852

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I updated the description, the status, and the assignee because nobody is actively working on this task. I'm going to file a parent task for the copy that includes both translatewiki messages (qqq) and zobject labels.

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I was pointed here from https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Talk:Z2 by @Jdforrester-WMF .

Currently, Z2 has the English key values "labels" and "short descriptions". They are shown when editing an object label:

Screenshot 2024-03-14 at 14-19-41 Northern Sotho Z1456 Natural language - Wikifunctions.png (519×512 px, 33 KB)

As far as I can understand, an object can have only one label and one description in each language. Despite this, these English labels remain plural, and they were also translated into several languages in the plural form.

Can they be changed into "label" and "short description", or better, just "description"?

GrounderUK subscribed.Mar 15 2024, 9:54 AM
In T335583#9632190, @Amire80 wrote:

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Can they be changed into "label" and "short description", or better, just "description"?

I agree that is how they should appear, in the About pop-up configured as it is. But we don’t want to make the text in the underlying object singular.

One possibility is that we add some language “chips” under the plural label, indicating languages that have a value already which could be a useful prompt. Then it would appear to make sense (to me) to be adding a single value to the set, but the value would have no label of its own, (except, perhaps, the language name in its own language, if the chip is not clear enough). This happens to correspond to the underlying object (there’s a surprise!) and (in my view) sidesteps the issue of a singular entry in a field with a plural label, while enriching the user experience.

GrounderUK mentioned this in T360001: Make ZID in title click-to-copy.Mar 15 2024, 4:00 PM
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