Should WMF reassess T336595?

It is perhaps utopic but can't you guys just meet physically in an hackaton and build things up with both security and dataviz WMF+ others skilled team?
An encyclopedia without graphs, can it still be an encyclopedia?

Would be also nice to have support for type=tunnel .

Aside the vega and security problems, would there another possibility to call and show directly the result of a wikidata sparql query, for instance, https://w.wiki/6i7n inside a wikiarticle?

Will they reopen once in all wikis or will there be slow openings, x language then y language, etc?

Dans T334940#8802210, @C-Kobold a écrit :

Is there an easy way to just generate the Graphs locally as picture with the data from Wikidata, upload them to Wikimedia Commons and embed them again as normal picture? Could this be automated? I am not that proficient in SPARQL.

Sill nothing new on by default collapse {big number of statements in one property} ?

Still nothing on the road of dataviz? ;)

Hi, didn't notice the minimizeable action with the arrow . OKay but it might be UX-friendly if the minimap was positionned elsewhere : either the layer selector could be on top-left or the minimap could be on the bottom-left, don't you think ?

Hi, apparently working (see Lassen, Ariel, Persée)
Thanks

Hello, sorry, I did not mean to be unpolite.

Vega does show tooltips, eg this very simple sample
https://vega.github.io/editor/#/examples/vega/bar-chart
Plus, as you said, there are somehow tooltippings/mouse interaction with
the demo on the mediawiki page.
What's unclear, is that they are under Vega 5.0 and (if I have got it well)
the module "Graph" of mediawiki is only on Vega 2.0. Does 2.0 prevent the
tooltipping events (on mouse hover, etc) or to be written differently ? Is
this the code needed to be produced by the Graph module so that tooltips
are possible ?

"signals": [
  {
    "name": "tooltip",
    "value": {},
    "on": [
      {"events": "rect:mouseover", "update": "datum"},
      {"events": "rect:mouseout",  "update": "{}"}
    ]
  }
],

Something like this
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data:I18n/Template:Graphs.tab?

Tooltipping would greatly improve the end user experience with graphs in
wiki. If anyone could update one of the most common graph template on
enwiki with tooltipping, it'd be great.

Sorry but the current used Vega version does not support tooltips (text
hover), I am perhaps missing something.

Good idea!
Should be great to get this sorting by unprecise dates and then précise
dates for same time span .
Eg 1st millennium AD, 1070(as a year), February 1070 (year and month
précision), 1st February 1070, etc. To help readability.
Alexis

Looks OK : https://w.wiki/3Yev , thanks!
But it needs to type in "gsw-fr" in the language search [alsacien/elsassisch search does not work].
Another wonder : monolingual language code does not necessarily mean there would be a new line "gsw-fr" as labels for items, does it?

If I were to choose, I would deprecate the watermarks solution ;)
Color on backgound + color on classic button icon would be great enough!
Besides, I don't understand the third icon on this image "https://phab.wmfusercontent.org/file/data/5cc6pk4joa6am4fsgveh/PHID-FILE-tlokwlhid5iovljxqhp7/new_icons_hide_default.png.
Would it be possible to add a better tooltip when mouse over on the rank button (eg "Preferred rank, means this is a more true value than the other statements" // "Deprecated rank, means this is less true than the other statements and should not be visible on query results" or something alike) ?

Don't know what exactly I did, but I corrected the graph here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#Norway and the graph looks working. Did this correction lowered the error rate, even slightly ?

Hello, as far i know, there is no longer any serious pb with Graph:Lines
I have corrected the sparql of the population wikidata example in all wikis documentations using the Graph:Lines.
Thanks for the work!

Hello, I don't know if it's the right topic here but if someone has a nice template in xxwiki, how to make it crosswiki ?
For instance, I have a frwiki template, it has a LangSwitch to help show custom text for each wiki. So that if I modify something in frwiki, I can just copy paste among wikis and basta. But someone did not like that and consider enwiki as the sole and unique wiki that shouldn't be international.... So is there another way to have "international" template?

Hello, unfortunately at least enwiki is still problematic

Hello, so are Mediawikis Graph still on Vega 2.0 syntax ? Pinging {{user|Shirayuki}} ;)

Hello?

i don't know if there has been a specific fix, but the images renders now as it was when it was working. For instance here https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_a%C3%A9roports_les_plus_fr%C3%A9quent%C3%A9s_en_Oc%C3%A9anie#En_graphique

Hi, any date when the frwiki will be Graphoïd-undeployed? Thanks

Well, how one could write a timezone for {{Q|Q3062714}}, whose guillotine worked on 10 h 22, Paris Time (given the fact that in 21 JAN 1793, UTC didn't exist) ?

I don't know why but the fact is that I activated advanced mode on the mobile screen and labels are showing in the correct fashion{F32361123}

Thank you but is it supposed to work there

For the values on Wikidata, here's two examples where it'd be useful.

I'll take first 26 swadesh words between ligure and munegu, with, for
instance, this source
http://www.traditions-monaco.com/dictionnaire-francais-monegasque

lij-MC has few direct reference but I believe it's the correct since monegasque is a dialecte (-MC) derivated from ligurian (lij).

Hello, it looks Wikidata graph are re-working there https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Graph:Lines. Is this the final work or is there to wait for de-deployment of Graphoïd on the different langwikis ? Thanks

Just a comment so as not to forget ability to link data to Wikidata ;)

No, I think there should be no poor-image in the end at all but a "true"
graph (ie interactive, tooltipable, etc).

Hello, is someone working on this ? Thanks.

Hi,
Seems "français canadien" not available for each monolingual property
it appears to be available and OK for P1705 [for instance https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1450506#P1705
but cannot edit a Q for P1549 or P1843 ... ?

Hi i'm impacted.

Hi there, noticed too the template SPARQL bug. Isn't it simply because the page is too large ?
Shouldn't we break it into subpages ?

Looks the graph has been build with a Lua code and a module here :
https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Graph:Population_history

Very odd as https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?whereami=1&query=45.9326%2C8.6095#map=9/45.7848/8.3661 shows an accurate blue lake.

I believe it's an important issue : an encyclopedia without graphs... well ... plus it contributes to reducing interest on Wikidata

Hi there, it looks like the problem has become general : even graph with raw data no longer appear to work. Like there : https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Graph:Lines …

Excuse me, I'm a simple guy : I'd like to know why a direct javascript (vega based) isn't possible ? It looks the graphs are build this way : code > javascript/vega > image built > image shown on the page, am I right? If yes, what are the reasons preventing "code > graph shown on the page" ?

Hello, it's all the more bizarre as it's working here https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modèle:Aéroport-Statistiques/Sandbox (with a play button : it's linked to a Wikidata query and not calling templates Graph, calling directly extension graph). This case is all the more puzzling as https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modèle:Aéroport-Statistiques/Sandbox2 is a very simple Vega graph with raw fixed data and a play button : not working ….

Vega is already 5.4.0, isn't it?
Besides, graph are no longer working in wikipedias ...

In any wikilanguage, the code won't work and the image will link to something like ""https://mediawiki.org/wiki/HyperSwitch/errors/unknown_error"".

Do you see why, when you modify something minor, you hit "preview", the graph is built and seeable, and when you save, you have a blank image?

Hi, you can find the bug there https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Graph:Lines for instance

Interested in the solving of this pb. What I can say is that a common template (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Graph:Lines) whichever wiki it is used (de, fr, it, etc), does not render the graph if linked to a wikidata query.
What is funny, is the fact that if you hit "preview", the graph is viewable. But when saving the changes, no graphs, only a bad square/blank shown.
Thanks for your work!