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Take appropriate action for existing overrides of watchlist messages we are changing
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I suggested in the meetings to just override them (at least for major wikis) to make the change we want while preserving existing functionality

E.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Watchlist-details customizes it, but it might be okay to change the actual message text while preserving the watchlist notice. However, when I made that suggestion, I thought the old core text was closer to the override. Actually, the old core text was "{{PLURAL:$1|$1 page|$1 pages}} on your watchlist, not separately counting talk pages."

We should handle this here (or decide not to).

All overrides of the headers are listed at P5999.


New enwiki text (but the watchlist notice should be left alone):

""{{PLURAL:$1|'''$1''' page is|'''$1''' pages are}} on your [[Help:Watchlist|Watchlist]] (plus [[Help:Using talk pages|talk pages]])."

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I added Nowatchlist and Wlheader-enotif to the cross-wiki search paste (P5999).

I've left a message on English Wikipedia to say we are going to make the change for consistency with other wikis.

I have mixed feelings about this override. The communities will be free to change the message tomorrow or in 3 months, so I don't think we should spend too much time on it. Plus we don't have the resources to do it on all wikis: it is not really fair to only focus on big wikis: the change should be done for everyone if we do it for a few. But we don't have the resources for it.

I have mixed feelings about this override. The communities will be free to change the message tomorrow or in 3 months, so I don't think we should spend too much time on it. Plus we don't have the resources to do it on all wikis: it is not really fair to only focus on big wikis: the change should be done for everyone if we do it for a few. But we don't have the resources for it.

You make a valid point about the overrides. Ideally, we would take a consistent approach, but reality is not always ideal.

However, the new text is in core, so other communities can still potentially see the (eventually translated) default at Special:AllMessages, and choose to pick it up if they want.

Re enwiki, I of course agree with Kusma that we should preserve the links. I've updated the task accordingly.

Re enwiki, I of course agree with Kusma that we should preserve the links. I've updated the task accordingly.

I'm reading the replies now and I also agree.

I also think we shouldn't spend too much time trying to convince the communities to make the change while they think their sentence is better.

jmatazzoni closed this task as Declined.Oct 10 2017, 6:02 PM
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