See T209224: Analyze effect of huwiki FlaggedRevs configuration change on problematic edits and new user retention. That needs to happen first.

@Aklapper I do not agree. We discussed that we cannot answer the test's main question (like 'do we loose anons and new [non-trusted] editors because their changes do not appear immediately?') because we did not collect data for this (or for anything else, not at all). As a speaker, I am only repeating myself.

That's something to discuss in T209224?

MediaWiki has a public log of all edits and registrations; I'm not sure what other data we would want to collect. It's just that someone needs to actually analyse it.

I don't think the sense of urgency some users are trying to instill on the village pump is in any way justified, but if someone really insists on doing another config change for the duration of the analysis, I guess there is no harm in it either.

@Aklapper All I can say is that the majority (who participated in the discussion) still want the reverting.

One more week has passed. When can we expect any action?

@Bencemac: If I interpret T210224#4771188 correctly: When you or someone else provides a configuration change patch.

In T210224#4792005, @Aklapper wrote:

@Bencemac: If I interpret T210224#4771188 correctly: When you or someone else provides a configuration change patch.

It is why this task was created. @Dereckson, who did it?

In T210224#4792481, @Bencemac wrote:

It is why this task was created.

We know. :) And this task might get picked up by anyone who volunteers to work on this task (same for any other configuration change request).

@Dereckson, who did it?

Who did what?

In T210224#4792557, @Aklapper wrote:

In T210224#4792481, @Bencemac wrote:

@Dereckson, who did it?

Who did what?

See below.

In T121995#4116887, @Stashbot wrote:

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2018-04-09T14:28:12Z] <dereckson@tin> Synchronized wmf-config/flaggedrevs.php: Always show latest revision even if not reviewed on hu.wikipedia (T121995) (duration: 00m 59s)

I will assign this to @Dereckson because he was the person who enabled the testing period for 6 months (per T121995 and commit).

@Dereckson, Please write in the ticket if there is some reason why the configuration can't be changed back as the huwiki community asked. The current situation is that everything just stalls, because nobody actually implementing decisions is bad.

"Although the opinions are mixed about its positive/negative impact, that is clear it should be reverted."

I've some difficulties with this concept. How can a thing could be clear if the opinions are described as mixed?

Because we voted for a test period/temporary time, not for default (currently this is the default setting).

In T210224#4808558, @Bencemac wrote:

Because we voted for a test period/temporary time, not for default (currently this is the default setting).

Actually we voted to test it for a limited time period, then evaluate and make a final decision. The problem is no one seems to be interested in working on the evaluation so that process is stuck. (I intend to, eventually, but have some side projects which are more urgent right now. I don't think a few more weeks of delay makes much difference, and TBH I feel that the people who are complaining are exactly the ones who don't care much about the evaluation and have made up their minds on what they want from the start. Then again, I don't think switching the config back now (and then evaluating and making the final decision) makes much difference, either.)

In T210224#5020761, @Mahveotm wrote:

I will work on this but expect comments from Hungarian Wikipedia community members before this is deployed.

We are still waiting for it since October and the latest complaint (what I noticed) about why it is not done already was in January.

My suggestion is that because it is almost April the testing period would be a full year (365 days) if it is not a problem for huwiki community and then revert the change. This would make the results of the test more useful to others. This, of course, requires support from huwiki community.

In T210224#5020974, @Zache wrote:

My suggestion is that because it is almost April the testing period would be a full year (365 days) if it is not a problem for huwiki community and then revert the change. This would make the results of the test more useful to others. This, of course, requires support from huwiki community.

We voted for six months, not a year. IMHO, no one would like and support this idea because the community is not satisfied with the current situation/status. Personally, I am tired of hearing that 'why are you doing nothing?' and 'we are waiting for this since X', just because I am not able to do it myself.

I'm really unsure how to proceed on this. @Tgr any thoughts?

@Mahveotm In a technical sense, you should just to revert this change.

• https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/operations/mediawiki-config/+/354549/3/wmf-config/flaggedrevs.php

@Zache, thanks. I wasn't talking about the coding, I was talking about your suggestion to wait till April and @Bencemac and the Hungarian Wikipedia insistence that it should be done ASAP.

Change 496205 had a related patch set uploaded (by Mahveotm; owner: Mahveotm):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Remove flaggedrevs on the Hugarian Wikipedia, test period completed

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/496205

@Mahveotm why this is blocked? Or more precisely if it is because my comment then year is now full and it can be reverted.

I am currently working on T209224. I would recommend to wait until the analysis is ready, the community can evaluate the results and make the decision about the future settings.

What's the status here? It seems like we've been over-running the "test" for seven months waiting for the analysis. Is that right?

In T210224#5710676, @Jdforrester-WMF wrote:

What's the status here? It seems like we've been over-running the "test" for seven months waiting for the analysis. Is that right?

The analysis is probably done, see T209224. This task was created by me because the community had asked the original state.

The analysis is done, although terribly overdue. There will be a community vote soon on whether the new settings should be kept or reverted. This task is a bit premature.

The test period ended 17+ month ago, can somebody please revert it as the community wants?

@Tgr Should we merge patch https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/496205?

Change 496205 had a related patch set uploaded (by Jforrester; owner: Mahveotm):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] [huwiki] Set wgFlaggedRevsOverride back to true, test period completed

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/496205

FYI: the community vote has just ended, the result is reverting T121995 and going back to the original setting.

Change 496205 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] [huwiki] Set wgFlaggedRevsOverride back to true per community vote

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/496205

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2020-12-10T12:26:11Z] <urbanecm@deploy1001> Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: 042dd034ef5811923106e81dbb4ac129be1f1ba6: [huwiki] Set wgFlaggedRevsOverride back to true per community vote (T210224) (duration: 01m 07s)