Switch FlaggedRevs on Hungarian Wikipedia to a "flagged protection" mode
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The Hungarian Wikipedia community has decided to reconfigure FlaggedRevs to a "flagged protection" mode (similar to how it works on enwiki), for a six month trial period (after which the effect of the change on new editor conversion/retention and on the number of vandalisms and negative edits shall be examined).


See Also:
T126184: Patrol links appear in Hungarian Wikipedia

Tgr created this task.Dec 20 2015, 4:05 AM
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Change 260224 had a related patch set uploaded (by Gergő Tisza):
[DO NOT MERGE] Switch FlaggedRevs to "flagged protection" mode on huwiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/260224

Tgr changed the task status from Open to Stalled.Dec 20 2015, 5:07 AM

Need to clarify protection levels which was not part of the original discussion.

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Zache added a comment.Apr 18 2017, 6:28 PM

@Tgr was the plan with the protected mode that you would be tracking all the articles but revision displayed on default page view would be latest OR would you also reduced number of articles which you were tracking? Typical Flagged revision protection setup is that there is under 5000 tracked articles.

Reason why i am asking because i was wondering if possible for fiwiki to switch to protected mode.

Tgr added a comment.Apr 18 2017, 6:32 PM

The first, I think? I'm not sure I understand the difference.

In any case, I left this stalled because T132901 seems like a more promising option.

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This task was discussed at the hackathon.

A hu. contributor explained there is consensus was to always show latest revision, and not the accepted one.

To start the six months period test could be constructive.

My quick impression is that the consensus was just to make FlaggedRevs be "for informational purposes" as in Russian Wikipedia and others, but I've not reviewed the discussion extensively.

Setting $wgFlaggedRevsOverride = false; for six months as a test, if a test period was asked, is no big deal in my opinion. We can then review whether this does what the consensus wanted or whether a better technical solution is readily available. Keeping this stalled is not productive.

Change 354549 had a related patch set uploaded (by Dereckson; owner: Dereckson):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Always show latest revision even if not reviewed on hu.wikipedia

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/354549

Tgr added a comment.May 20 2017, 7:41 AM

My quick impression is that the consensus was just to make FlaggedRevs be "for informational purposes" as in Russian Wikipedia and others, but I've not reviewed the discussion extensively.

For review purposes (so that patollers can track which changes still need to be looked at) but the end result is the same.

Setting $wgFlaggedRevsOverride = false; for six months as a test, if a test period was asked, is no big deal in my opinion. We can then review whether this does what the consensus wanted or whether a better technical solution is readily available. Keeping this stalled is not productive.

It was stalled because a better option came up (T132901) but that's blocked on other work. I'd still prefer that to showing the unstable version all the time.

In this case, best course of action could be:

  • show the most recent unstable version now
  • switch to ORES triggered if there is a desire from ORES or Flagged Revisions to create such integration when it's ready
  • reevaluate the situation in November

Change 260224 abandoned by Chad:
[DO NOT MERGE] Switch FlaggedRevs to "flagged protection" mode on huwiki

Reason:
Abandoning all config changes > 1y old

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/260224

Tgr moved this task from Backlog to Huwiki on the User-Tgr board.