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Specialist support for Content Translation to start a conversation about English Wikipedia limitations on the tool
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Currently Content translation is exposed in a limited way on English Wikipedia. The main restrictions are:

  • The use of abuse filters to prevent users to publish based on their edit count.
  • The lack of machine translation when translating to English (T86700).

We want to explore with the English Wikipedia community possible paths forward to find better solutions that while preventing problematic contributions are less limiting to valid contributors.

In order to do so, we'll be sharing with the community the improvements on the new version of Content Translation, the data on the impact of the content created with the tool, and the effects of the current limitations that restrict the use of the tool on English Wikipedia.

Help needed form Community Specialists

  • Communication plan review. Provide feedback about what, where and when to communicate.
  • Organize the conversation and process feedback. Given the size of the community and the different topics of the discussion, we may need help to get a general understanding on the general perspective of the community and preferred next steps.

Time frame
We were aiming to start this process during April-June 2019.

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Pginer-WMF created this task.Feb 26 2019, 10:56 AM
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(As I did with other tasks, while we find the final owner. Thanks for filing.)

Pginer-WMF mentioned this in T205610: Specialist support for project Content Translation (version 2).Feb 27 2019, 2:47 PM
Arrbee moved this task from Needs Triage to Upstream/Other teams on the ContentTranslation board.Mar 4 2019, 2:41 PM
• Elitre reassigned this task from • Elitre to Keegan.Mar 26 2019, 6:23 PM
Quiddity subscribed.Apr 5 2019, 3:16 PM
• Elitre edited projects, added MoveComms-Support (Apr-Jun-2019); removed MoveComms-Support.Apr 13 2019, 10:50 AM
• Elitre edited projects, added MoveComms-Support (Jul-Sep-2019); removed MoveComms-Support (Apr-Jun-2019).Jul 12 2019, 12:39 PM
• Elitre triaged this task as Low priority.Jul 17 2019, 3:18 PM
• Elitre edited projects, added MoveComms-Support (Oct-Dec-2019); removed MoveComms-Support (Jul-Sep-2019).Oct 11 2019, 8:29 AM
• Elitre added a comment.Jan 20 2020, 5:26 PM

@Pginer-WMF Hi, I gather that you may be working on other priorities ATM. Do you have any thoughts/new info around this task? Thanks.

Pginer-WMF added a comment.Jan 21 2020, 12:14 PM
In T217129#5817578, @Elitre wrote:

@Pginer-WMF Hi, I gather that you may be working on other priorities ATM. Do you have any thoughts/new info around this task? Thanks.

During this fiscal year, we are focusing on smaller wikis as part of the Translation Boost initiative, so focusing on English Wikipedia is not in our plans for the next months.

• Elitre changed the task status from Open to Stalled.Jan 21 2020, 6:41 PM
• Elitre lowered the priority of this task from Low to Lowest.

Changing accordingly, thanks.

• Elitre edited projects, added MoveComms-Support; removed MoveComms-Support (Oct-Dec-2019).Jan 21 2020, 6:42 PM
• Elitre added a comment.Jan 14 2021, 12:46 PM
In T217129#5819188, @Pginer-WMF wrote:
In T217129#5817578, @Elitre wrote:

@Pginer-WMF Hi, I gather that you may be working on other priorities ATM. Do you have any thoughts/new info around this task? Thanks.

During this fiscal year, we are focusing on smaller wikis as part of the Translation Boost initiative, so focusing on English Wikipedia is not in our plans for the next months.

Ciao Pau, it's been a year, should we close? FWIW, you can also just park it on your boards if you don't want to forget about it. TY!

Pginer-WMF removed a project: MoveComms-Support.Jan 19 2021, 9:16 AM
In T217129#6747490, @Elitre wrote:
In T217129#5819188, @Pginer-WMF wrote:
In T217129#5817578, @Elitre wrote:

@Pginer-WMF Hi, I gather that you may be working on other priorities ATM. Do you have any thoughts/new info around this task? Thanks.

During this fiscal year, we are focusing on smaller wikis as part of the Translation Boost initiative, so focusing on English Wikipedia is not in our plans for the next months.

Ciao Pau, it's been a year, should we close? FWIW, you can also just park it on your boards if you don't want to forget about it. TY!

I removed the Community Relations Specialist tag for now. We are still focused on supporting smaller wikis and there are some improvements to the limit system (T251887) that we want to complete before moving in this direction. Once we get there we can activate this front again.

Thanks for pinging!

• Elitre awarded a token.Jan 20 2021, 11:32 AM
• Elitre removed Keegan as the assignee of this task.Aug 18 2021, 4:04 PM
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