The page https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Beta_Features might need update for this to work. Translations to Dutch: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Overleghulpmiddelen. Upgrade from 1.0 to 2.0.

In T257646#6297052, @AdHuikeshoven wrote:

The page https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Beta_Features might need update for this to work. Translations to Dutch: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Overleghulpmiddelen. Upgrade from 1.0 to 2.0.

@AdHuikeshoven, two questions for you:

1. Can you share the changes you think need to be made to this page?
2. Also, when you say, "...[the page] might need update for this to work." are you suggesting this ought to happen before conversations about the tool being deployed as an opt-out preference or before the tool itself is deployed? If it's the latter, we agree, if it's the former, can you share what's leading you to think that?

I think we're on the same page about #1 [i]; I'm asking to be sure.

i. The updates we have in mind sound like what you suggested on the talk page: ADD information about Replying v2.0 and more broadly, update the page so someone seeing the Reply tool for the first time can use the page to quickly learn things like: What is the purpose of this tool? What features does it have? What stage of development is it in? Where can I learn more about its development? Where can I share feedback about the tool?//

Updates like [i] are spot on. Make sure the documentation don't appear outdated to someone new to the reply-tool. And preferably before conversations about deployments. My assumption is people will more likely look at the documentation than look at the tool to inform themselves whether deployment is a good idea, or not. I think a handful tweaks to the page will suffice.

@AdHuikeshoven, I think https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:DiscussionTools is going to be the long-term documentation for regular editors (think "end users" or "beginner's guide"). Please "Be bold" in adding/removing information until we have a good version.

?dtvisual=1 is outdated, so the image needs an update

In T257646#6301611, @AdHuikeshoven wrote:

Updates like [i] are spot on. Make sure the documentation don't appear outdated to someone new to the reply-tool. And preferably before conversations about deployments. My assumption is people will more likely look at the documentation than look at the tool to inform themselves whether deployment is a good idea, or not. I think a handful tweaks to the page will suffice.

This makes a lot of sense; thank you for this feedback, @AdHuikeshoven.

In T257646#6305214, @Whatamidoing-WMF wrote:

@AdHuikeshoven, I think https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:DiscussionTools is going to be the long-term documentation for regular editors (think "end users" or "beginner's guide"). Please "Be bold" in adding/removing information until we have a good version.

This is looking great, @Whatamidoing-WMF and agreed about this being the longer-term destination for information about the tool.

Although, for the purpose of having conversations with volunteers about potential deployments (e.g. the conversation we will be having at the Arabic, Dutch, French and Hungarian Wikipedias very soon), I'd like for us to share a page people can use to learn about specific features as well as the context of the project at-large.

A link to said page is linked below and ready for y'all to review. Once the content in /PPelberg (WMF)/sandbox is finalized, I'd like to:

1. Use it to replace the content that is currently on Talk pages project/Beta features and
2. Move the Talk pages project/Beta features to Talk pages project/Feature summary

Next steps

• @Whatamidoing-WMF + @AdHuikeshoven to review the contents of /PPelberg (WMF)/sandbox.
  • Note: once finalized, the contents of /PPelberg (WMF)/sandbox will replace the current contents of Talk pages project/Beta features, be moved to Talk pages project/Feature summary and then shared with volunteers when we start the conversations mentioned above.
• @ppelberg to create new screenshot per @AdHuikeshoven's comment above: T257646#6305470

In T257646#6308974, @ppelberg wrote:

Next steps

• @ppelberg to create new screenshot per @AdHuikeshoven's comment above: T257646#6305470

✅ Screenshot added: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User%3APPelberg_%28WMF%29%2Fsandbox&type=revision&diff=3966408&oldid=3966224.

@Dyolf77_WMF, would you please add a link to the discussion(s) you start, in the table at the top of this page? Thanks.

In T257646#6313877, @Whatamidoing-WMF wrote:

@Dyolf77_WMF, would you please add a link to the discussion(s) you start, in the table at the top of this page? Thanks.

Done, waiting for comments and notes!

In T257646#6318830, @Dyolf77_WMF wrote:

In T257646#6313877, @Whatamidoing-WMF wrote:

@Dyolf77_WMF, would you please add a link to the discussion(s) you start, in the table at the top of this page? Thanks.

Done, waiting for comments and notes!

Excellent – thank you, Habib!

Discussion on huwiki started by @Samat.

In T257646#6324446, @Tacsipacsi wrote:

Discussion on huwiki started by @Samat.

Wonderful – thank you for posting this, @Samat and for letting us know @Tacsipacsi!

Please let us know if any questions come up that you think we can help answer.