• Can you please give this implementation a try, let us know what you think and ask others to do the same? Instructions for how you can try this are listed below; we'd value you sharing these instructions with others at ar.wiki as well.

Thanks,

• ar.wiki community members were asked to try the implementation here: https://ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%88%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86/%D8%AA%D9%82%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9&diff=prev&oldid=49533453
• My observations:
  • Usernames have this symbol ▶ instead of the @ when pinging them from the list;
  • This symbol is flipped. In a RTL text, ◀ is what we expect;
  • (When I added, <div dir="rtl">, see the second section, to obtain a RTL display, all the indentations are not working).

@ppelberg thanks for asking this, before answering your question I would like to inform you that summary edits is what I personally look at when replying comments.

Can you say a bit more to this point? Are you saying that before replying to a comment on a talk page, you'll first notice the edit on your watchlist, review the edit summary that accompanied said edit and then go about drafting a response?

@ppelberg no, usually (without the reply tool) I make my comment and before saving it, I type the summary edit.
With the reply tool, I make my comment and before posting my answer I would like to describe what I just wrote in the summary edit, that is not available with the reply tool. That is my personal approach, the summary edit is what I want to add to the Reply tool.

Question: considering that on ar.wiki the Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary (or the default undo summary) preference is turned on for everyone by default [i][ii], we wonder whether you can think of another method the software can use to determine whether someone will expect to see the custom edit summary field available within the Reply Tool when they use it for the first time?

In T257646#6313877, @Whatamidoing-WMF wrote:

@Dyolf77_WMF, would you please add a link to the discussion(s) you start, in the table at the top of this page? Thanks.

That is a web browser issue (with Chrome, Safari and Brave). Firefox and Chromium don't have this problem. I just checked with these two browsers and the display of the parentheses is correct.

@Aklapper : Thanks for adding that project.

@Tgr , @MMiller_WMF Thanks

The {{GENDER:|}} is working in some places and not working in others. Like this sentence: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Growthexperiments-homepage-suggestededits-tasktype-label-links/ar

Thanks @Esanders , I was thought if the user exists in another wiki, it will be in that wiki. I just tested it and it is working.

Another user encountered the same issue in Arabic Wikipedia when testing the feature: https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%B4_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85:%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A3%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%B9%D8%A8%D8%AF_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%81%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AD#%D8%AA%D8%AC%D8%B1%D8%A8%D8%A9

Testing the tool on Arabic Wikipedia, something strange is happening when I tried to ping someone using @: the suggestion list is outside the box and in the wrong side.

Thanks @Esanders, that is Okay.

Replies from Arabic Wikipedia community are listed and translated in this document: docs.google.com.

AR.wiki community was informed about the project and invited to share feedback. Link of the consultation page (w.wiki/QsN) shared in:

• Village pump,
• community messages and
• Mentors' project page.

My question: can we involve social media? I can send some messages on Twitter, IG ans FB from ar.wikipedia official account.

AR Wiki, project summary and consultation apge: w.wiki/QsN (subpage for each question from 1 to 6)

In T252460#6127032, @DLynch wrote:

@Dyolf77_WMF this ticket is for the default -- T250332 is going to expose customizing the message so individual wikis can make it more to their liking.

For RTL wikis, is it possible to use the symbol ◀ instead of the @? So {{ping|مستخدم}} will display مستخدم◀ ! (USER=مستخدم)

My comment above was too quick so these are my answers:
For AR wiki:

• 1. Are templates typically added to unsigned comments?

Yes

• 2. If so, which unsigned templates are added?

this template: https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A8:%D8%BA%D9%8A%D8%B1_%D9%85%D9%88%D9%82%D8%B9

• 3. What are the ways (e.g. en masse via script(s)/bot(s), manually, etc) in which these unsigned templates are added?

the template is added manually (there was a bot, but no more active now)

• 4. If unsigned templates are added en masse, what scripts and bots are used on your wiki?

No

In ar.wiki there is a bot that places a template after unsigned comments, but it is out of service now. Its creator is not available at the moment so the bot is stopped. Thus unsigned comments are now handled by editors who place the template manually!

This page contains comments from users in separate subsections created by the pre-load red button in the page which creates a subsection == Username ==, but these sections are moved manually to ==== Username ====.
If we keep the order of the section as the button does the "REPLY" works fine.

In T250886#6090570, @ppelberg wrote:

@Dyolf77_WMF + @Samat: are you both able to share the information described in the "Announcement contents" section of this task's description with people at your wikis?

{{done}}

Sounds good for me too. The www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk_pages_project/Beta_Features page will be shared here.

@Dyolf77_WMF, are you able to follow the steps described in the comment above and let us know if the issue reported in the task description is resolved by doing so?

In T249063#6072976, @Whatamidoing-WMF wrote:

... Most small/tiny wikis will not want to create their own pages, but (e.g.,) the Arabic Wikipedia will probably want to have a local page.

In T245790#6065450, @Trizek-WMF wrote:

In T245790#6063109, @MMiller_WMF wrote:

@Trizek-WMF -- that is a great point! We should want users who experienced FlaggedRevisions to understand what's going on. @Tgr -- what do you recommend here? Do you know if there is precedent for having different sets of messages depending on whether the wiki has FlaggedRevisions?

@Dyolf77_WMF may help there too.

Stats about ar.wiki are available in this document. I noticed:

• one mentor who has a law ratio of answering questions,
  • Edit: He is studying and having less time for wiki activities but promised to come back asap.
• one mentor is not receiving questions as expected/comparing to other mentors,
• recently added mentors (last 3 on the list) are not as efficient as the first ones.

• @Dyolf77_WMF: arwiki has many more help panel questions per answerer (31 per answerer per month) and many more mentorship questions per mentor (35 per mentor per month) than the other wikis. Is there a general sense that this is too many, and help desk answerers and mentors are overloaded? I'm trying to figure out what the right ratio is.

• User Faisal in ar.wiki and the use of an extra :, he affirmed that he didn't know about the automatic insert of the indentation so he typed them manually.

@iamjessklein Hi, There is no capitalized characters in some languages like in Arabic.

For ar.wiki:

• 10 new questions every day, 70 per week.
• 9 different users were active last month to handle the help desk.

Open question

• @Samat & @Dyolf77_WMF, what do you both think of the effectiveness of the approach above? I ask considering there seems to be a relatively small number of pages on ar.wiki and hu.wiki using __NEWSECTIONLINK__.

@ppelberg well, this is already a good effective and sufficient approach.
The number of pages on ar.wiki can be adjusted. I have no doubt that the community will be able to review more pages and add the word for those that are deemed adequate to receive __NEWSECTIONLINK__/the reply tool. So far I have only seen positive feedback about it.

...

As a result of this, the code we added to fix T245695 jumps to nearly the end of the page, instead of to the end of the paragraph, when adding the "Reply" link for that comment.

I didn't know that was possible. But we can fix it :)

In T249184#6023481, @Esanders wrote:

We will be considering various approaches to making the link more visible, including the ones mentioned here. In the meantime I would suggest lengthening the translation in Arabic (e.g. "Reply to this" / "Reply to this comment").

Okay, another thing, try to reply with each link, you will find that most of them reply to Jarbot and some other to different users.

In T249217#6023040, @Whatamidoing-WMF wrote:

I wonder if the problem has anything to do with the formatting of the awards at https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/نقاش_المستخدم:Khaled#تهانينا (plus others)

Many users are suggesting putting the word "reply" between these two symbols: <<reply>>.
Something like this:

+1 @kostajh

Thoughts from user Faysal.

Two comments from my side:

@Whatamidoing-WMF The announcement is done in Arabic, today on the technical village pump in Ar Wiki.

Thanks @MMiller_WMF @DED ! Overall the tool did a good job for the link suggestions. i have two comments:

• In many cases, the location of the link is not suitable. For example the word ابن خلدون in the article exists twice. But the suggestion is made for the second word.
• The tool has not made a good recommendation for certain proper names. Especially when names are too long (over three words).

For newcomers the algorithm is a good start for understanding how links work and for exploring articles.

@ppelberg same case for VE (please see this second video ) . As @MMiller_WMF said, when a newcomer is intending to edit the hole article, they click on the top Edit button, but got only the first section displayed. I understand the worry about handling long text on mobile devices but the place of the Edit button is a bit confusing and not really intuitive.

In T244728#5865488, @Trizek-WMF wrote:

Should we message them? It could it be a source of confusion? Maybe a notification would be better instead?

What could be the message for the mentees when they are redirected to the new mentors? Something like: Your mentor [old_mentor_name] is not available now. We invite you to ask your questions to your new mentor [new_mentor_name].

In T243694#5857957, @Etonkovidova wrote:

I've added the task to pre- and post-deployment (wmf.19) checklist. In betalabs the translations were not yet displayed.

@Urbanecm It is a background task, but we can close it now.

The text and list of potential mentors: This document

In T240034#5830643, @Tgr wrote:

Probably not easy enough to do it in real-time though, right? So where would we store it? AIUI storing and accessing structured data is a bit inconvenient now for Commons files, and entirely impossible for non-Commons files. (Although in theory images of living people should all be in Commons, if the wiki follows the non-free content guidelines...)
Probably something to coordinate with the Structured Data team.

Thanks.

I think the blue arrow is pointing the wrong direction. This screenshot is from ar beta

My checking will be detailed on this spreadsheet.

Thanks for the explanation @Tgr