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Yesterday

RHo added a comment to T289723: Sticky header: Add edit icons to sticky header.

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Not sure if this has been discussed on a separate task, but showing both Edit and Edit source is actually dependent on the language wikis as well. So for example on cswiki both tabs are shown by default (even for logged out users).
Is there a possibility to remove the toggle/switch entirely from the wikitext/VE editors when there are two Edit/Edit source tabs?

Thu, Sep 23, 6:25 PM · Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-FY-2021-22), Desktop Improvements
RHo added a comment to T288928: Replace Sandbox icon (< >; "markup") which implies "code" instead of writing.

Thank you all for your comprehensive feedback, here's an update on the latest explorations. The current picks are: the dotted page metaphor and the dotted text editor metaphor. Following a suggestion from Pau I also added a third pick which tries to simplify the icon with a single mark.

The dotted page metaphor works well because we emphasize that users are writing page content. May be their first experience or may be the drafting of a new article. In order to align the icon with the rest of our icon set I moved the pencil in the top right corner. As suggested by Volker I also explored the possible variants for RLT languages. I came to the conclusion that for this icon is not necessary an RTL version (but I would like to check and test with a native speaker). My reasoning behind this suggestion is because in version 001 Menu AEB it seems that the pencil is outside of the page, while in version 003 Menu AEB it may suggests that users are left-handed or writing at the end of a sentence. While option 002 Menu AEB emphasize the direction of a RLT language. Together with Pau we also checked how's the treatment for the edit icon in RTL languages and the direction is the same as LTR languages.

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This is my new preference over the text editor metaphor both for the simpler shape, and also fitting in with the other icons sets in terms of pencil placement. For the RTL version, 002 Menu AEB (i.e., use same as LTR) works best in my opinion, as it is the same direction of the pencil in RTL as the regular edit pencil, and is writing inside dotted line page as you note.

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Thu, Sep 23, 5:08 PM · Advanced Mobile Contributions, MinervaNeue, Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-FY-2021-22), Design, Desktop Improvements
RHo updated the task description for T291603: Help panel: guidance floating button appears over the Notifications mobile.
Thu, Sep 23, 6:44 AM · GrowthExperiments-NewcomerTasks, GrowthExperiments-Help panel, Growth-Team (Current Sprint)
RHo updated the task description for T291603: Help panel: guidance floating button appears over the Notifications mobile.
Thu, Sep 23, 6:42 AM · GrowthExperiments-NewcomerTasks, GrowthExperiments-Help panel, Growth-Team (Current Sprint)
RHo created T291603: Help panel: guidance floating button appears over the Notifications mobile.
Thu, Sep 23, 6:39 AM · GrowthExperiments-NewcomerTasks, GrowthExperiments-Help panel, Growth-Team (Current Sprint)

Wed, Sep 22

RHo added a comment to T290316: Add a link: mobile swiping gesture in link inspector.

@mewoph -- I am okay with not adding new events for these swipes. It's a level of analytics granularity that I don't think we'll get to, since there are so many other things about "add a link" we need to analyze.

It would be helpful to know the usage of mobile gestures for the wider Design and Design systems team as we start adding these to more of our products. Would it be OK to add if it is minimal effort?

Wed, Sep 22, 10:42 AM · Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Growth Design, Add-Link

Tue, Sep 21

RHo added a comment to T289723: Sticky header: Add edit icons to sticky header.

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my initial instinct was to do what's shown below, which ultimately conflicts with how the icons are being used in the editor, and perhaps gives added weight to Visual editing (given that the pencil is, I'd guess, more easily recognizable as an Edit icon...though that might not matter given the sticky header is currently only for logged-in users and they will only see both icons if they have their preferences setup to show both):

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Not sure if this has been discussed on a separate task, but showing both Edit and Edit source is actually dependent on the language wikis as well. So for example on cswiki both tabs are shown by default (even for logged out users).

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My questions for you all are:

  1. do you have time to form an opinion about this (which ideally would include thinking through all use cases — desktop, mobile, apps, etc. — and coming up with a coherent icon plan)? it's fine if you don't, we can also run this through our general design team process and get it sorted out in a more generic way
  2. have you considered using a toggle instead of a dropdown in the editor, therefore removing the need for a "parent" icon? I bring this up because a) if we didn't have a parent icon it might simplify things (two icons instead of three), and b) according to UX collective it is bad UX practice to have a dropdown with only two items in it (link to article). E.g.

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Thanks!

cc @ovasileva @RHo @Volker_E

Is there a possibility to remove the toggle/switch entirely from the wikitext/VE editors when there are two Edit/Edit source tabs?

Tue, Sep 21, 12:17 PM · Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-FY-2021-22), Desktop Improvements

Mon, Sep 20

RHo added a comment to T290540: Add an image: image viewer.

Thanks @RHo — I just noticed that this task is under the TBC section in the parent task. Should this also have the PLACEHOLDER keyword as well?

from my perspective it seems straightforward enough to do on its own, unless @MMiller_WMF wants to pause it with the other Add image tasks anyway and concentrate on 'lull' tickets these next couple of weeks.

Mon, Sep 20, 10:41 PM · Patch-For-Review, Image-Suggestions, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Growth-Structured-Tasks
RHo added a comment to T290540: Add an image: image viewer.

Hi @MMiller_WMF @RHo — when the image is letterboxed, should clicking the area outside the image close the dialog as well (in addition to the close button)?

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Mon, Sep 20, 7:24 PM · Patch-For-Review, Image-Suggestions, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Growth-Structured-Tasks
RHo created T291367: Add an image: Investigate enabling caption text input on the editing surface (per Concept B prototype) .
Mon, Sep 20, 10:18 AM · Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Growth-Structured-Tasks
RHo created T291366: Add an image: Investigate building mobile onboarding pop-ups on top of GuidedTour .
Mon, Sep 20, 10:13 AM · Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Growth-Structured-Tasks

Sat, Sep 18

RHo added a comment to T269659: Add a link: post-edit dialog.

Pageviews should be removed from the next suggested article card.

@RHo / @MMiller_WMF Is that just for add link type tasks, or any task? The original task for the post-edit dialog (T245790: Newcomer tasks: post-edit dialog) appears to have us adding page view data for desktop, but not for mobile.

Sat, Sep 18, 5:46 AM · MW-1.38-notes (1.38.0-wmf.1; 2021-09-21), MW-1.37-notes (1.37.0-wmf.23; 2021-09-13), Patch-For-Review, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments, Add-Link, Growth-Structured-Tasks
RHo added a comment to T290148: Add the Homepage in the drop-down menu for Desktop Improvements.

@RHo -- in new vector, the username still links to the homepage. With this change, would this be an additional route to the homepage? So there would be two ways: click your username, or click "home" in the dropdown?

Sat, Sep 18, 5:33 AM · Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Growth Design, Desktop Improvements

Fri, Sep 17

RHo updated the task description for T290910: Add an image: skip button functionality for image inspector (PLACEHOLDER).
Fri, Sep 17, 6:16 AM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Growth-Structured-Tasks
RHo added a comment to T290910: Add an image: skip button functionality for image inspector (PLACEHOLDER).

Hi @MMiller_WMF @RHo — I wanted to clarify a use case that could end up being rather complicated to support.

  1. Start image suggestions task
  2. Skip
  3. Next task is loaded, start task
  4. Click back (via browser button)

With the current setup, the user will see the article from step 1 in edit mode (based on the URL when they left), but without the structured task since the corresponding session for the task has ended. Do we have to show the structured task flow again in this case?

If that's the case, we might have to rework how a session is determined (or consider an article in additional to the homepage as an entry point for structured task). @kostajh @Tgr please correct me if I'm wrong—my understanding is that this will be a new use case where we go from one in-progress task to another (the closest would be the post-edit dialog, but in that case, the session has ended so we don't need to figure out whether to re-start the session).

Fri, Sep 17, 6:14 AM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Growth-Structured-Tasks

Thu, Sep 16

RHo updated the task description for T289827: Add an image: task type info in suggested edits module.
Thu, Sep 16, 8:53 PM · Patch-For-Review, Image-Suggestions, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Growth-Structured-Tasks
RHo renamed T290046: Add an image: rejection dialog (PLACEHOLDER) from Add an image: rejection dialog to Add an image: rejection dialog (PLACEHOLDER).
Thu, Sep 16, 8:51 PM · Patch-For-Review, Image-Suggestions, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Growth-Structured-Tasks
RHo renamed T290045: Add an image: image inspector (PLACEHOLDER) from Add an image: image inspector to Add an image: image inspector (PLACEHOLDER).
Thu, Sep 16, 8:51 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Growth-Structured-Tasks
RHo renamed T289823: Add an image: frontend tasks for initial release (PLACEHOLDER) from Add an image: frontend tasks for initial release to Add an image: frontend tasks for initial release (PLACEHOLDER).
Thu, Sep 16, 8:45 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Growth-Structured-Tasks
RHo updated the task description for T289823: Add an image: frontend tasks for initial release (PLACEHOLDER).
Thu, Sep 16, 8:45 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Growth-Structured-Tasks
RHo added a comment to T289824: Add an image: mobile preview card.

@MMiller_WMF and @Tgr – I've updated the description to clarify that there should still be an image thumbnail on the Add image task mobile preview, though the thumbnail image is still TBC.

Thu, Sep 16, 8:40 PM · MW-1.37-notes (1.37.0-wmf.23; 2021-09-13), Patch-For-Review, Image-Suggestions, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Growth-Structured-Tasks
RHo updated the task description for T289824: Add an image: mobile preview card.
Thu, Sep 16, 8:39 PM · MW-1.37-notes (1.37.0-wmf.23; 2021-09-13), Patch-For-Review, Image-Suggestions, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Growth-Structured-Tasks
RHo added a comment to T289942: Suggested edits pager is hard to read.

I ran Lighthouse accessibility report on Special:Homepage (huwiki). The score was 98%; the only complain was about the contrast for div.suggested-edits-difficulty-indicator.suggested-edits-difficulty-indicator-easy which is a known issue.

Thu, Sep 16, 10:34 AM · Growth Design, GrowthExperiments-NewcomerTasks, Growth-Team, GrowthExperiments-Homepage

Wed, Sep 15

RHo added a comment to T290965: Prevent edits from anonymous users with add link plugin.

@RHo @MMiller_WMF could you please provide wording that should be used with the error message?

Hi @kostajh - based on the task description, is it the case that the attempted 'Add link' edit on Article X will be lost after they log in? Or is it possible to enable them to keep the edits after logging in? I might be a little frustrated as the person who worked on the article to have the edit lost and essentially be unable to work on that specific article again due to the current randomised reloading of tasks.

Yeah, good point.

It's possible to keep the edit, but the full workflow looks like this:

  • start an add link task
  • get logged out due to session expiration or whatever
  • get an error message from VisualEditor saying you're not logged in anymore
  • press "Try again"
  • get an error message from GrowthExperiments saying that you should log in
  • open a new browser tab and login
  • press "Try again"
  • get an error message from VisualEditor, this time saying that you were anonymous, but now you're logged in as user X, do you want to make this edit?
  • press "Try again"
  • success

so... not great. We could probably suppress the VisualEditor errors but we're still looking at a workflow that involves logging in via another tab, which will be awkward.

Wed, Sep 15, 6:08 PM · Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo added a comment to T290315: Ensure user does not see invalid tasks in task queue.

We might want to refresh the cache nevertheless, it's nice to keep the cache fresh. I think it comes down to a design choice - how much do we want to keep the task list stable? (Ie. do we think the user would prefer or find less confusing if, after doing a task and returning to the home page, they'd see the same results they saw before picking the task?) From that POV, I think this is a good change - previously we relied on randomizing the 200 cached results to pretend a random selection, but with only 20 results cached that doesn't work so well, so rotating them more often would be good.

Yeah, I'm not sure. I believe @RHo wanted to explore having a stable and non-randomized task queue per user; I think we discussed that in another phab task early on in the Add-Link project.

Wed, Sep 15, 4:44 PM · Patch-For-Review, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo added a comment to T288928: Replace Sandbox icon (< >; "markup") which implies "code" instead of writing.

Hi @aminalhazwani - agree with @alexhollender and @Theklan that the last option (frame #1011) works well and also appreciated your thorough and well-documented exploration process.
Added replies to Alex and your comments about icon styling in the menu below.

Wed, Sep 15, 4:38 PM · Advanced Mobile Contributions, MinervaNeue, Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-FY-2021-22), Design, Desktop Improvements
RHo triaged T290316: Add a link: mobile swiping gesture in link inspector as Medium priority.
Wed, Sep 15, 4:07 PM · Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Growth Design, Add-Link
RHo added a comment to T290316: Add a link: mobile swiping gesture in link inspector.

Hi @RHo I think it could work if we limit the tap area to be the container above the buttons since the only tap target here is the article title.

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Wed, Sep 15, 4:04 PM · Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Growth Design, Add-Link
RHo added a comment to T290866: Provide notification about availability of add link feature.

Hi @kostajh, agree this sounds like a good low effort thing to try
@MMiller_WMF - maybe something that can be done in the next week or two before the Add image front end tasks are ready?

Wed, Sep 15, 2:41 PM · Growth-Scaling, GrowthExperiments, Growth-Team
RHo added a comment to T290424: Improve visibility and friendliness of revert notices.

@RHo @MMiller_WMF putting this in needs discussion, mainly for you two to talk about and see if it's something you're interested in doing. Engineering-wise, this is pretty minimal effort to do, either in GrowthExperiments or in mediawiki/core. If we did it, putting it in GrowthExperiments first is probably reasonable, to gather data on its impact / interactions.

Thanks for this idea @kostajh and interesting @Tgr that there was a proposed experiment. I can see the benefit, but also worry about it having the opposite effect of discouraging further edits so my inclination is to not prioritise this right now.
In terms of how we would show the additional revert user education piece, I think it work better as a guided tour type pop-up that appears over the notifications icon so that users are reminded that that is where revert notices are posted, and to keep it as a single succinct explainer message rather than multi-step flow, given this would need to be translated and configured to different wikis (that might have different ways of handling reverts that won't be easy to translate over multi-steps).

Wed, Sep 15, 2:17 PM · Growth-Team
RHo updated subscribers of T290316: Add a link: mobile swiping gesture in link inspector.

@RHo / @MMiller_WMF leaving this for you two to decide on.

Wed, Sep 15, 1:50 PM · Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Growth Design, Add-Link
RHo moved T283548: Add a link: encourage progress on desktop from Needs Design/Design Doing to Ready for Development on the Growth-Team (Current Sprint) board.

@RHo where are we on this, now that we have smooth scrolling on desktop? This task is in Need Design, but it doesn't seem to (anymore).

Wed, Sep 15, 1:45 PM · MW-1.38-notes (1.38.0-wmf.1; 2021-09-21), Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments, Add-Link, Growth-Structured-Tasks
RHo updated the task description for T283548: Add a link: encourage progress on desktop.
Wed, Sep 15, 1:42 PM · MW-1.38-notes (1.38.0-wmf.1; 2021-09-21), Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments, Add-Link, Growth-Structured-Tasks
RHo added a comment to T289619: [Design spike] consider moving Watchlist to site header.

Thanks for the ping @alexhollender - my belated 2c below.

@ovasileva @Jdlrobson I think the main considerations here are:

1. Icon

While a ★ icon might seem like an obvious choice, it's maybe confusing because there's already a ★ icon for Watch in the page toolbar, plus various ★s as page/article quality indicators. Also using just a ★ doesn't really communicate that it's a list of pages you're watching.

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Maybe we can have something that's a combination of List + Watch:

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I also think the specialized icon makes sense here as well, and removes confusion.

Agree with others that the new star on list icon makes sense, and second @Volker_E's suggestions about revising slightly so the placement of the star is top right instead.

Wed, Sep 15, 1:38 PM · Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-FY-2021-22), RW-Feature-DI-User-Menu, Desktop Improvements
RHo updated the task description for T290148: Add the Homepage in the drop-down menu for Desktop Improvements.
Wed, Sep 15, 9:31 AM · Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Growth Design, Desktop Improvements

Tue, Sep 14

RHo added a comment to T290965: Prevent edits from anonymous users with add link plugin.

@RHo @MMiller_WMF could you please provide wording that should be used with the error message?

Tue, Sep 14, 1:09 PM · Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments

Mon, Sep 13

RHo added a comment to T288928: Replace Sandbox icon (< >; "markup") which implies "code" instead of writing.

Maybe something that indicates a "draft" or a "sketch pad" might work?

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cc @iamjessklein (editing), @RHo (newcomer experience), @Volker_E (design systems)

It looks very clean, but it is also very generic. I fear that it might compete with normal editing under this angle.
Also all other article icons are “white on black”, but I guess that outlined approach was intended @alexhollender?

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Mon, Sep 13, 5:28 PM · Advanced Mobile Contributions, MinervaNeue, Readers-Web-Backlog (Kanbanana-FY-2021-22), Design, Desktop Improvements

Aug 23 2021

RHo updated the task description for T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing.
Aug 23 2021, 6:03 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing, a subtask of T287758: Add an image: Conduct usability testing on Iteration 1 of the Add an image task, as Resolved.
Aug 23 2021, 6:03 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing as Resolved.
Aug 23 2021, 6:03 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T289263: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - Make rejection appear within edit page as Declined.

Low prio, skipped for this prototype.

Aug 23 2021, 6:03 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T289263: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - Make rejection appear within edit page, a subtask of T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing, as Declined.
Aug 23 2021, 6:03 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T289444: Add image usertesting prototype: Move text string in styles.css into i18n JSON files as Resolved.

Merged, thanks!

Aug 23 2021, 6:02 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T289444: Add image usertesting prototype: Move text string in styles.css into i18n JSON files, a subtask of T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing, as Resolved.
Aug 23 2021, 6:02 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo updated subscribers of T288380: Define and document shared component library guiding principles.

A consideration that @Prtksxna asked about during the regular design meeting was to make it more MediaWiki agnostic so that it could be used by developers for example on WMF Tool labs, as well by designers and developers creating prototypes for Wikimedia projects that are not yet on MW.
I would also strongly support MW-agnostic library as this would serve the principle of making this accessible to more people and to enable more people to start participating who are not yet using MW. It speaks a little as well to the Movement Strategy UX recommendations around being more inclusive of designers, who are again not necessarily utilising the MW library yet but wish to prototype and build tools using the design system.

Aug 23 2021, 9:16 AM · Design-Systems-team-project (DST FY2021-22 Kanban Board)

Aug 22 2021

RHo closed T289445: Add image usertesting prototype: On Submit page, rejected image should not appear, a subtask of T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing, as Resolved.
Aug 22 2021, 11:24 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T289445: Add image usertesting prototype: On Submit page, rejected image should not appear as Resolved.
Aug 22 2021, 11:24 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo triaged T289445: Add image usertesting prototype: On Submit page, rejected image should not appear as High priority.
Aug 22 2021, 11:13 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo created T289445: Add image usertesting prototype: On Submit page, rejected image should not appear.
Aug 22 2021, 11:13 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo added a comment to T289011: Add image usertesting prototype: Create ES language versions of the completed Concepts A and B prototypes.

Note one issue opened as https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T289444

Aug 22 2021, 11:04 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T289011: Add image usertesting prototype: Create ES language versions of the completed Concepts A and B prototypes, a subtask of T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing, as Resolved.
Aug 22 2021, 11:04 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T289011: Add image usertesting prototype: Create ES language versions of the completed Concepts A and B prototypes as Resolved.
Aug 22 2021, 11:04 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo updated the task description for T287758: Add an image: Conduct usability testing on Iteration 1 of the Add an image task.
Aug 22 2021, 11:03 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo triaged T289444: Add image usertesting prototype: Move text string in styles.css into i18n JSON files as High priority.
Aug 22 2021, 11:02 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo created T289444: Add image usertesting prototype: Move text string in styles.css into i18n JSON files.
Aug 22 2021, 11:02 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo updated the task description for T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing.
Aug 22 2021, 11:00 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments

Aug 20 2021

RHo updated subscribers of T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing.
Aug 20 2021, 12:54 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo added a comment to T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing.

Posting issues found by @MMiller for posterity:

Aug 20 2021, 11:51 AM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo updated the task description for T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing.
Aug 20 2021, 11:44 AM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo updated the task description for T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing.
Aug 20 2021, 11:42 AM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments

Aug 19 2021

RHo closed T289000: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - restyle SE inspector as Resolved.

committed in
https://github.com/reetssydney/prototypes/commit/7db3904bfbf4e42f37c653ae384ad51c5b0da23e
and
https://github.com/reetssydney/prototypes/commit/387b6c660c4a1f837356d3851c410685b40339e9

Aug 19 2021, 10:15 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T289000: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - restyle SE inspector, a subtask of T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing, as Resolved.
Aug 19 2021, 10:15 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T289002: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - update caption as Resolved.

This and the item from T289004 are all sorted, thanks!

Aug 19 2021, 10:13 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T289002: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - update caption, a subtask of T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing, as Resolved.
Aug 19 2021, 10:13 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T289004: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - update onboarding as Resolved.

Thanks, LGTM!

Aug 19 2021, 10:11 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T289004: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - update onboarding, a subtask of T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing, as Resolved.
Aug 19 2021, 10:11 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo added a comment to T289002: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - update caption.
Aug 19 2021, 6:40 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo moved T289000: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - restyle SE inspector from Ready for Development to In Progress on the Growth-Team (Current Sprint) board.
Aug 19 2021, 5:46 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo added a comment to T289004: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - update onboarding.

Hi @RHo — making sure I understand the requirements for caption onboarding, does the tooltip also bring up the same caption guidance as in ConceptB (regardless of whether the guidance has been shown before)?

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Yes please!

Aug 19 2021, 5:44 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo added a comment to T289004: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - update onboarding.

Hi @RHo — making sure I understand the requirements for caption onboarding, does the tooltip also bring up the same caption guidance as in ConceptB (regardless of whether the guidance has been shown before)?

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Aug 19 2021, 5:41 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo added a comment to T289002: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - update caption.

I see, thanks for confirming! For this prototype, let's go w/that then.

Ok great.

Aug 19 2021, 5:11 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo added a comment to T289002: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - update caption.

Hi @RHo — if the submit button on the caption page were disabled before the user enters the caption, how can the user get into the state on the right (A3ii)?

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Aug 19 2021, 4:56 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo renamed T289263: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - Make rejection appear within edit page from Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - Make rejection appear within edit page [low] to Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - Make rejection appear within edit page.
Aug 19 2021, 1:56 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo triaged T289263: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - Make rejection appear within edit page as Low priority.
Aug 19 2021, 1:56 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo created T289263: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - Make rejection appear within edit page.
Aug 19 2021, 1:56 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T289009: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - Change rejection options from checkbox to radio buttons, a subtask of T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing, as Resolved.
Aug 19 2021, 1:53 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T289009: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - Change rejection options from checkbox to radio buttons as Resolved.
Aug 19 2021, 1:53 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo added a comment to T289009: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - Change rejection options from checkbox to radio buttons.

Done - but filing a follow-up task to show the reject as a dialog within the edit page

Aug 19 2021, 1:53 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo added a comment to T289005: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - enable next icon when caption text is entered.

@RHo, AIUI this can be done after T289002: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - update caption (or maybe should just be merged into that one), is that right?

Aug 19 2021, 1:25 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo updated subscribers of T289004: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - update onboarding.

hi @mewoph - fyi I added back in the onboarding for concept A since we want to use the same onboarding (concept B) for both concepts during this round of usability. The only thing that needs to be done is changing the position of the pointers to match where the relevant elements will be located in concept A

Aug 19 2021, 12:15 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T289006: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - update Preview page styling, a subtask of T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing, as Resolved.
Aug 19 2021, 11:45 AM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T289006: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - update Preview page styling as Resolved.
Aug 19 2021, 11:45 AM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo updated the task description for T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing.
Aug 19 2021, 11:44 AM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T288996: Add image usertesting prototype: Add es/en dictionary to the prototype to enable faster updating of UI strings, a subtask of T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing, as Resolved.
Aug 19 2021, 11:17 AM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T288996: Add image usertesting prototype: Add es/en dictionary to the prototype to enable faster updating of UI strings as Resolved.

Graçias!

Aug 19 2021, 11:17 AM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T289007: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - Rejection flow places user first onto a rejected version of the Preview page, a subtask of T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing, as Resolved.
Aug 19 2021, 11:15 AM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T289007: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - Rejection flow places user first onto a rejected version of the Preview page as Resolved.

OK that's sorted too so all deployed, thanks!

Aug 19 2021, 11:15 AM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T287944: [BUG] Newcomer tasks: Warning and error messages in the Suggested edits module are displayed incorrectly as Resolved.

Thanks all, LGTM!

Aug 19 2021, 10:49 AM · MW-1.37-notes (1.37.0-wmf.19; 2021-08-16), Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo added a comment to T289007: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - Rejection flow places user first onto a rejected version of the Preview page.

Thanks Kosta! Merged and looks good on the ConceptA branch but I think I need to figure out how to get the changes showing up on the localised versions (ConceptA_en and Concept_es)

Aug 19 2021, 10:48 AM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T288995: Add image usertesting prototype: Enable back action on edit with caption step remembered as Resolved.

merged, thanks!

Aug 19 2021, 10:26 AM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T288995: Add image usertesting prototype: Enable back action on edit with caption step remembered, a subtask of T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing, as Resolved.
Aug 19 2021, 10:26 AM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments

Aug 18 2021

RHo added a comment to T289007: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - Rejection flow places user first onto a rejected version of the Preview page.

hi @kostajh, sorry I realised I didn't clearly ask - would you prefer I merged PR14 first and fixing the "Yes" Preview in a follow up?

Aug 18 2021, 2:44 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo added a comment to T289007: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - Rejection flow places user first onto a rejected version of the Preview page.

See https://github.com/reetssydney/prototypes/pull/14

@RHo I'm not sure if I've missed something in Figma – what would need to be updated in submitted.html?

Aug 18 2021, 2:17 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo added a comment to T266687: Define boundaries on when a component becomes part of the library or built as one-off.

One point that was raised in the summit (apologies I forgot who specifically raised this point) was where and how people could see what one-off components are available. I wonder if there is a case to be made for documenting all one-off components in the same place? This may help surface when one-offs could be elevated and reduce redundancy in people potentially starting work to propose a new component for which a one-off already exists.

Aug 18 2021, 11:14 AM · WVUI
RHo added a comment to T289088: [minor-mobile] SE module UI issues on iPhone.

hi @kostajh and cc @MMiller_WMF - I'd like to propose breaking this into 2 tasks:

  • The first issue is not only on iPhone but all smaller devices where there is scrolling on the card so would prioritise this as High. I think it would be better if for layouts where the screen height results in scrolling, for the bottom edit bar to not be shown and to move the arrows back to left and right of the card:
Fallback for when device height overflows
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Aug 18 2021, 10:04 AM · GrowthExperiments-Homepage, Growth-Team
RHo added a comment to T289109: Remove Start module code including base task modules.

@RHo @MMiller_WMF As far as I know we have no plans to continue work on the old start module (

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), so I am proposing to remove the code in the patch attached to this task. The code could be restored later if we decide we want to pursue it again, but as it stands now, it is just extra lines of code to scan when we need to e.g. assess our code for security vulnerabilities.

Aug 18 2021, 9:51 AM · GrowthExperiments-Homepage, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Technical-Debt

Aug 17 2021

RHo moved T289006: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - update Preview page styling from Needs Design/Design Doing to In Progress on the Growth-Team (Current Sprint) board.
Aug 17 2021, 11:09 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo moved T289009: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - Change rejection options from checkbox to radio buttons from Ready for Development to In Progress on the Growth-Team (Current Sprint) board.
Aug 17 2021, 11:09 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo renamed T289004: Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - update onboarding from Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - update onobarding to Add image usertesting prototype: Concept A - update onboarding.
Aug 17 2021, 11:08 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments
RHo closed T288997: Add image usertesting prototype: Clone completed Concept B into a new Concept A file, a subtask of T287904: Add an image: Build an iteractive prototype for Mobile Iteration 1 user testing, as Resolved.
Aug 17 2021, 11:07 PM · Image-Suggestions, Growth-Structured-Tasks, Growth-Team (Current Sprint), GrowthExperiments