1. Why only when logged into the temporary account? If this is an accessibility problem, it should be solved for everyone, this notice doesn’t look any different for users.
2. This should probably involve a community discussion, since (IMO) the proposed design makes the notice too invisible.

FYI, it looks like something like this without Echo extension enabled AFAIK:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Notifications-Talk-Indicator-OptionG-OMOB-Screenshot-05-02-2013.png

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Notifications/New_message_indicator (featuring, apparently, a discussion from 2013!) for more information on it

Maybe this is the time to rethink where it is located and how it looks more generally, but that would require a community consultation. The notice is the way it is because users thought that it is not noticeable otherwise, but contrast issues should obviously be solved. Maybe one way to solve it is to make the notice more prominent again in some other way.

Ah, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_messages_notification has a more up-to-date information. Logged-out users currently get a more accessible design (good). But if you are fixing this, it should be made better for everyone.

I think one way to do it is to remove Echo modification of this message and move the box next to CentralNotice/sitenotices (above them in the same area). And maybe add an icon that indicates what this notice is about. This might fix some things in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mobile_communication_bugs while we are at it.

There are also logged-out mobile notices done in T284642: Add yellow talk page message banner to non-main namespace pages on mobile that look like this:

Seems like a good version to iterate on to make the default everywhere. But currently they do not display this user notice unless user starts editing a page (which is bad and unnecessary).

Thanks for the feedback and additional context, @stjn!

Ideally we can solve this accessibility issue everywhere and use styling that is consistent with other similar messages.

@RHo What are your thoughts on styling this alert similar to the mobile banner? T284642

In T341305#8998335, @KStoller-WMF wrote:

Thanks for the feedback and additional context, @stjn!

Ideally we can solve this accessibility issue everywhere and use styling that is consistent with other similar messages.

@RHo What are your thoughts on styling this alert similar to the mobile banner? T284642

Hi @KStoller-WMF - colour-wise the style is now matching the message warning notification styling that is in the mobile banner. The only difference is the font colour because the entire message is a link to the talk page. If there are any further changes to layout/placement/etc that is much more consequential. I would also tag in @ovasileva or @Jdlrobson from Web since I think they might technically share/own how this appears in Vector.

Change 952781 had a related patch set uploaded (by Cyndywikime; author: Cyndywikime):

[mediawiki/extensions/Echo@master] Revise styling on notification alert bar to meet WCAG color contrast AA requirements

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/952781

The above patch changes the coloring of the orange bar from a bright orange to a pastel tan.

I do not associate pastel colors with urgency at all. Is there a way to meet the contrast requirement while still using a bright color? Perhaps we can change the font color to black instead?

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Thanks for the feedback, @Novem_Linguae! I agree that the new pastel bar of doom may not elicit the same degree of urgency / doom.

It would be nice to actually see how the new color scheme impacts the click through rate, but that would be hard to gather data on anytime soon.

I'll mark this as Blocked until @RHo or someone from design can review your feedback.

In T341305#9125328, @KStoller-WMF wrote:

Thanks for the feedback, @Novem_Linguae! I agree that the new pastel bar of doom may not elicit the same degree of urgency / doom.

It would be nice to actually see how the new color scheme impacts the click through rate, but that would be hard to gather data on anytime soon.

I'll mark this as Blocked until @RHo or someone from design can review your feedback.

hi there, thanks for the ping. The proposed design is to match the Warning notice in the AA color-compliant design style guide that is already applied elsewhere in warning/alert messages, and the reason for the blue text is because link colour is in the #36c. My recommendation is to look at some data to see impact of the colour change as we move to the colour compliant and accessible styling, but agree there may be wiggle room to consider making most of the message the black shade text and only the talk page part in the link colour:

Will pass on to @JFernandez-WMF to help move this forward in consult with Design Systems if needed.

hi, had a quick chat with @bmartinezcalvo - we concluded that maybe using the warning icon for the alert bar could probably help reinforce its urgency? We also thought that Rita's suggestion of only linking the 'talk page' copy is a great approach.

feedback welcome! :)

I still think that, if you are going to remove the brighter background and text colour, you should make it more prominent in other ways, like increasing font size and maybe putting it in a more prominent location. Small fixes like putting an icon wouldn’t help if the message itself is harder to notice.

Or figure out a way to keep the bright color and still achieve the contrast requirement. Perhaps by changing the font color of the text.

And I would also note that at least one community has complained that these notices aren’t consistent/prominent enough in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mobile_communication_bugs so making them more prominent wouldn’t be all that controversial, whereas making them less prominent would likely cause some pushback or negative feedback.

thank you both for your feedback :) we've discussed your comments and we're taking them into consideration - we decided to implement, as the first step, making most of the text black + the link in blue as Rita pointed above, and we'll try and analyze closely if there's an impact in interactions before and after the change.

This is definitely User-notice worthy.