@Inductiveload Thanks for filing this ticket! We have discussed this a bit, but I'm glad you're bringing it up now. There's an argument to be made to leave the current state, since the 3 main options may be more straight-forward & user-friendly than "Other formats" (which may seem vague/confusing), and the "Other formats" link is also available from the sidebar. However, there's also a good argument to include "Other formats" in the pop-up, which is that PDF/MOBI/EPUB doesn't work for everyone, and some people would like a higher degree of customization. If our goal is to have more people use the download button + pop-up rather than the sidebar links, I suppose the pop-up should also be a bit more robust and customizable. This leads me to think we may want to add one more row in the pop-up for "Other formats: go to WSExport page," but we would want to explicitly call out that the user would be redirected to the WSExport page, so no confusion or inconvenience arises.

Just early thoughts on my end... pinging @Prtksxna & @nayoub. Any thoughts? Thanks.

@ifried I think it should be in the dialog, even if it's de-emphasised (e.g. smaller and/or no icon, or something).

This is because:

• A user pressing the download button may not know the sidebar links exist (they're quite ignorable), or that they are for the same thing (remember, until recently, there were several other, broken, tools in there too).
• If you press the download button and are presented with three options, and no affordance indicating that there is more, you'd quite reasonably assume that that is all there is.
• The sidebar links don't exist on Mobile, and you definitely want it to work from there because you could well be browsing from your reading device (phone/tablet). Cf. T274466. And the OOUI dialog would be a much more directed interface for that.

The string could be something like "Customise this export..." rather than just "Other formats" because there's more to it that just offering other formats (fonts, page size, etc).

These are great points, @Inductiveload! Thank you for sharing them. I'll discuss this with the team.

The other thing that is possible (just throwing this out there) is to add the export form to the pop up in some way, so the format, font, and other options (but probably not the language or title) could be chosen directly there. Not sure it's a good idea, but we could do it.

@Samwilson Good to know! I would be concerned about clutter and usability if we added in the whole form, but it's helpful to at least know it's an option. I'll discuss with @Prtksxna & @nayoub in our next meeting & see what they recommend for this ticket.

Change 673593 had a related patch set uploaded (by HMonroy; owner: HMonroy):
[mediawiki/extensions/Wikisource@master] Add different format link to download popup

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/673593

Change 673593 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/extensions/Wikisource@master] Add different format link to download popup

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/673593

The popup now looks like:

The new link takes you to https://ws-export.wmcloud.org/?lang=beta&title=<title>

We only have English translations, so I cannot yet test it in other languages.

Currently, I can only test on beta. When this goes live next Tuesday, I will test in a few production Wikisources, just to make sure we are setting the lang parameter correctly (I doubt there will be a problem).

Test Environment: https://en.wikisource.beta.wmflabs.org Wikisource – (574e77f) 07:42, 25 March 2021.

Thank you, @dom_walden! Quick note that we may actually go live on Wednesday. I'll discuss with the team during standup later and then post a team update for when the release will occur. Thanks!

In T274999#6945436, @dom_walden wrote:

Currently, I can only test on beta. When this goes live next Tuesday, I will test in a few production Wikisources, just to make sure we are setting the lang parameter correctly (I doubt there will be a problem).

I have tested this in a few different languages, e.g. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Good_Sports?uselang=he. We don't have many translations yet.