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See https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q42?uselang=en-gb
The sitelink headings are in Welsh, e.g. "Wiciddyfynnu" instead of "Wikiquote" and most of the links in the footer are too, e.g. "Golwg teclyn symudol" instead of "Mobile view"
Backports:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/704612
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/704611
Examples:
On the other hand, the sidebar, for instance, is unaffected (in ?uselang=cy it’s different):
Also, note how the edit links in the sitelink groups (first screenshot) still say edit, rather than “golygu” as in ?uselang=cy.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Wikibase-sitelinks-wikiquote/en-gb shows the Welsh message text for some reason (which is at least consistent with it being shown on item pages).
At least the footer seems to affect Wikipedias as well – https://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portada?uselang=en-gb has the following footer on my end:
Privacy policy About Viquipèdia Disclaimers Golwg teclyn symudol Datblygwyr Ystadegau Datganiad cwcis Edit preview settings
Also, note how the edit links in the sitelink groups (first screenshot) still say edit, rather than “golygu” as in ?uselang=cy.
Though that might just be because this message (wikibase-edit) is actually overridden in en-gb, rather than falling back to en.
It's affecting wikidata but it's not a bug of Wikibase code: https://de.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Wikibase-sitelinks-wikinews/en-gb
I don't think there is much the wikidata team can do here
https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Wikibase-sitelinks-wikinews/en-gb
04:59, 13 July 2021 Raymond deleted page MediaWiki:Wikibase-sitelinks-wikinews/en-gb (Mass deletion of pages added by Robin Owain - wrong language)
You probably just need to clear out your en-gb.json files
Based on https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:DeletedContributions/Robin_Owain&offset=&limit=2500&target=Robin+Owain it should only be ~14 messages
Or more specifically... rEWBAc9cb5b23e5fe: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. needs backporting (as localisation update removed them)
We can deploy this tomorrow https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase/+/704612 It needs a l10n rebuild that usually takes a while.
There's over 500 incorrect translations... Some of them look like they were never exported at least (looking at MW core).
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Given it's a train blocker, can we reimport at least core's translations from TWN and just backport that patch? Not sure how easy it would be to backport _all_.
RelEng hasn't decided yet that if this will be a train blocker or not: T281155#7213826 or I'm misunderstanding the comment.
Btw, this is a common problem with translators into Russian, too. I think now that English speakers became affected it is better late than never to find ways to improve Special:Translate interface to make the language you are currently translating your message to a bit more prominent for people. Right now, it is fairly easy to miss ‘Translate to: British English’ at the top of the page, and I have done it before myself, so maybe it needs to be somewhere in the edit form, too. (Sorry if off topic, just sharing that this is more common than this current issue.)
@Raymond any idea why https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-VisualEditor/blob/master/i18n/ve-wmf/en-gb.json still shows Welsh even though https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Tag-visualeditor/en-gb has been deleted?
I filed T286901: Explore options to avoid people translating into wrong language for the root cause. Untagging our team.
@Nikerabbit: Not really: Exported on July 12th, deleted on July 13th. And was not removed with the next export.
Another wrong translation was removed on July 13th ("visualeditor-descriptionpagelink")
Wrong translation in Wikibase and Parser Functions and WikimediaMessages, to name only some, were removed fron the files.
Maybe the script cannot delete a complete xx.json file?
It should be able to delete those files now. I noticed the stats for https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:MessageGroupStats?group=ext-visualeditor-ve-wmf&language=en-gb&x=D were wrong. They are correct now after purging. I purged everything for en-gb just to be sure. So expecting it to be removed in the next export.
i18n/ve-wmf/en-gb.json was deleted today: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor/+/705596
The backports weren't merged and deployed, so most of the incorrect messages should be removed this week during the train.
The VisualEditor one listed above didn't make the cut for the train though rMW7d15165f57aa: Branch commit for wmf/1.37.0-wmf.15
Can at least that one be backported so that resolving this issue doesn’t take more than a week? It also happens to be a pretty visible message—it’s the recent changes tag for edits using VisualEditor, of which there are hundreds per hour on the English Wikipedia alone.
Thanks. I understood "most of the incorrect messages should be removed this week". We are sent here from Wikipedia to find out what's happening but it's very hard to understand all the jargon.
As per @Tacsipacsi, everything but the tag-visualeditor message (which should say [[{{MediaWiki:visualeditor-descriptionpagelink}}|Visual edit]]" in English) should be fixed.
I'll see about getting that one fixed beore the train roles out too widely thi week.
Change 705750 had a related patch set uploaded (by Reedy; author: L10n-bot):
[mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor@wmf/1.37.0-wmf.15] Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net.
Change 705751 had a related patch set uploaded (by Reedy; author: L10n-bot):
[mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor@wmf/1.37.0-wmf.15] Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net.
Change 705750 abandoned by Reedy:
[mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor@wmf/1.37.0-wmf.15] Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net.
Reason:
Change 705751 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/extensions/VisualEditor@wmf/1.37.0-wmf.15] Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net.
Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2021-07-21T14:46:18Z] <reedy@deploy1002> Started scap: Fix some VE translation issues for T286679
Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2021-07-21T14:51:03Z] <reedy@deploy1002> Finished scap: Fix some VE translation issues for T286679 (duration: 04m 45s)
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Tag-visualeditor/en-gb is no longer in Welsh... So when .15 rolls out everywhere (by the end of the week), we should be good...