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Simplify steps to starting a new discussion on empty talk page (mobile)
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Description

This task involves the work with reducing the number of steps and decisions people need to make in order to start a new discussion on an empty talk page on mobile.

Behavior

  1. Using the mobile site, tap a [red] link to a talk page that does not yet exist

Actual

  1. Notice the Create page "card" appears
  2. Tap Create page
  3. Notice the talk page empty state (T274832) appears momentarily
  4. Notice the talk page linked in "Step 1." loads with the New Discussion Tool open

Desired

  1. Arrive on the talk page linked in "Step 1."
  2. ✅Notice the talk page empty state (T274832) appears

🎥: https://youtu.be/X371FQqBCV4.

Event Timeline

And, by the way, is it intentional that the flowers are next to the text? Mobile screens are pretty narrow even without halving the text width…

mpv-shot0001.jpg (1×886 px, 221 KB)

And, by the way, is it intentional that the flowers are next to the text? Mobile screens are pretty narrow even without halving the text width…

mpv-shot0001.jpg (1×886 px, 221 KB)

No, designs for mobile were outlined in T274832 and T277329, but have not been fully implemented yet.

I note that the "red link" in the tabs at the top of the page does not trigger the "Create page" popup, only red links in article content would trigger this problem. My understanding is that is pretty rare for such links to exist, and the most common way people will arrive a empty talk pages is via the header tabs.

This is a valid issue, but it may be quite complex to fix[1] and may only cover an edge case.

  1. We will need to both work with the MobileFrontend/Minerva feature that adds these popups, and also compute DiscussionTools availability for every redlink on the page in advance (we currently only compute DiscussionTools availability for the page you are on)