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I encountered many times now on wikis (usually the small wikis) that there are 100s of local MediaWiki pages with translations from before translatewiki.net covered that language.

And even after twn covered it, there may have been local improvements that over time make it into twn, but then the local page stales.

To avoid translations from going out of sync (the longer we wait with this, the harder it is to clean them up as the difference between an override and an outdated translation becomes harder to tell), and also to avoid migration issues when messages change.

Lets run this asap.


EDIT: deleteEqualMessages.php has been completed on the following wikis:

12014-03
2wuuwiki
3
42014-04
5afwiki
6amwiki
7brwiki
8euwiktionary
9gvwiki
10hrwiki
11hrwiktionary
12iawiki
13miwiki
14mlwiki
15
162014-05
17abwiki
18afwikiquote
19alswiki
20bat_smgwiki
21bpywiki
22cswiki
23cswikiversity
24cswiktionary
25cvwiki
26lnwiki
27nahwiktionary
28newwiki
29nlwiki
30rowiktionary
31simplewiki
32sqwiki
33suwiki
34tlwiki
35
362015-05
37commonswiki
38mediawikiwiki
39metawiki
40
412015-06
42cewiki
43sawiki
44
452015-08
46eowiki
47euwiki
48frpwiki
49frwiki
50huwiki
51kawiki
52ocwiki
53rowiki
54zhwiktionary
55
562015-09
57alswiki
58eswiki
59fywiktionary
60itwikinews
61itwikiquote
62nahwiki
63pamwiki
64pmswiki
65roa_tarawiki
66vecwiki
67vecwiktionary
68
692015-10
70fawiki
71hewikisource
72hiwiki
73itwikiversity
74ukwiki
75
762015-11
77bswiki
78gawiki
79
802016-01
81wowiki
82
832016-03
84zhwiki
85zhwikibooks
86zhwikinews
87zhwikiquote
88zhwikisource
89zhwikivoyage
90zh_min_nanwiki
91
922016-04
93afwikibooks
94bgwiki
95bgwikiquote
96bhwiki
97bjnwiki
98ckbwiki
99cywiki
100dewikiversity
101elwiki
102enwikinews
103eswiki
104fawikibooks
105fawiktionary
106fiwiki
107frwikibooks
108gagwiki
109glwiki
110glwikibooks
111glwikiquote
112glwikisource
113hewikivoyage
114huwikiquote
115huwikisource
116idwiki
117kawikiquote
118krcwiki
119maiwiki
120map_bmswiki
121mgwiktionary
122minwiki
123mrwikisource
124mznwiki
125newiki
126orwiki
127plwiki
128pswiki
129ruwiki
130ruwikimedia
131shwiki
132srwiki
133svwikiversity
134thwiki
135thwikibooks
136tlwikibooks
137trwikimedia
138ttwiki
139uzwiki
140yowiki
141zh_classicalwiki
142zh_yuewiki
143
1442016-05
145anwiki
146anwiktionary
147cywiktionary
148diqwiki
149dvwiki
150elwikibooks
151elwiktionary
152fiwikinews
153gdwiki
154gdwiktionary
155hrwikibooks
156hrwikiquote
157igwiki
158mrwiki
159nvwiki
160siwiki
161warwiki
162
1632016-06
164amwiki
165arwiki
166arwikiversity
167azwiki
168azwikiquote
169azwikisource
170be_x_oldwiki
171bawiki
172barwiki
173brwiki
174brwikiquote
175brwiktionary
176cswikiquote
177hakwiki
178hsbwiki
179hywiki
180kawikibooks
181kawiktionary
182klwiki
183kmwiki
184knwiki
185kuwiki
186ladwiki
187lbwiki
188lezwiki
189lmowiki
190lvwiki
191mkwiki
192mnwiki
193mrjwiki
194mtwiki
195nds_nlwiki
196pcdwiki
197pdcwiki
198sewiki
199shwiki
200
2012016-07
202bewiki
203lowiki
204nlwikibooks
205oswiki
206tawiki
207tawiktionary
208tewiki
209tewiktionary
210tlwiki
211
2122016-08
213eswikibooks
214eswikiquote
215eswikisource
216eswiktionary
217eswikiversity
218
2192016-09
220urwiktionary
221
2222016-10
223plwikinews
224rowikinews
225rowikisource
226
2272016-11
228angwiki
229avwiki
230cebwiki
231gawiktionary
232hywiktionary
233itwiktionary
234jawiki
235jawikibooks
236jawikinews
237jawikisource
238jawikiversity
239kaawiki
240kkwiki
241mhrwiki
242ptwiki
243ptwikinews
244ptwikiquote
245ruwikisource
246ruwiktionary
247trwiki
248kowiktionary
249
2502017-01
251nowiki
252nowikinews
253gotwiki
254
2552017-02
256simplewikibooks
257simplewikiquote
258eswikivoyage
259fawikinews
260kshwiki
261ruwikinews
262sqwikinews
263yiwiktionary
264
2652017-03
266# foreachwikiindblist closed.dblist

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Restricted Application added a subscriber: Urbanecm. · View Herald TranscriptApr 3 2016, 10:37 PM

Mentioned in SAL [2016-04-03T22:37:29Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki eswiki --lang-code ca (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL [2016-04-04T00:21:39Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki ruwiki (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL [2016-04-10T21:55:24Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki trwikimedia (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL [2016-04-10T22:16:44Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki yowiki (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL [2016-04-10T22:56:38Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki srwiki (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL [2016-04-11T04:42:57Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki shwiki (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL [2016-04-11T20:41:43Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki plwiki (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL [2016-04-11T21:29:42Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki frwikibooks (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL [2016-04-11T21:29:44Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki bgwikiquote (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL [2016-04-11T23:12:31Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki zh_classicalwiki (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL [2016-04-11T23:20:28Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki idwiki (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL [2016-04-12T23:32:22Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki elwiki (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL [2016-05-24T16:05:43Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki fiwikinews (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL [2016-05-24T19:44:56Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki warwiki (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL [2016-05-24T19:55:21Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki cywiktionary (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL [2016-05-24T20:07:35Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki diqwiki (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL [2016-05-24T21:13:17Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki mrwiki (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL [2016-05-30T18:50:06Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki nvwiki (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL [2016-05-31T18:13:23Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki hrwikibooks (T45917)

Requesting the script to be run on es.wikisource as per https://es.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Especial%3ATodosLosMensajes&prefix=&filter=modified&lang=es&limit=5000

Lots of local messages equal to the source in TWN.

Thank you!

Doing a quick check, I've encountered the same problems at the rest of Spanish language projects, as such I propose to run the script on:

  • eswikibooks
  • eswikiquote
  • eswikisource
  • eswiktionary
  • eswikiversity

Thank you.

I'm handling the es part, then I'll reassign the task to Krinkle for review and closure.

Dereckson reassigned this task from Dereckson to Krinkle.Aug 18 2016, 9:20 PM

Done.

1$ mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki eswikibooks --delete
2Checking for pages with default message...
3... fetching message info for content language
4109 pages in the MediaWiki namespace override messages.
514 pages are equal to the default message (+ 0 talk pages).
6
7...deleting equal messages (this may take a long time!)...
8* [[MediaWiki:Talkpagelinktext]]
9* [[MediaWiki:Prefs-rc]]
10* [[MediaWiki:Group-suppress]]
11* [[MediaWiki:Group-suppress-member]]
12* [[MediaWiki:Grouppage-suppress]]
13* [[MediaWiki:Group-flood]]
14* [[MediaWiki:Grouppage-flood]]
15* [[MediaWiki:Group-patroller]]
16* [[MediaWiki:Group-patroller-member]]
17* [[MediaWiki:Grouppage-oversight]]
18* [[MediaWiki:Group-oversight]]
19* [[MediaWiki:Group-oversight-member]]
20* [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-log-name]]
21* [[MediaWiki:Group-flow-bot-member]]
22
23done!
24
25$ mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki eswikiquote --delete
26Checking for pages with default message...
27... fetching message info for content language
28178 pages in the MediaWiki namespace override messages.
2945 pages are equal to the default message (+ 2 talk pages).
30
31...deleting equal messages (this may take a long time!)...
32* [[MediaWiki:Underline-never]]
33* [[MediaWiki:Moredotdotdot]]
34* [[MediaWiki:Navigation]]
35* [[MediaWiki:History short]]
36* [[MediaWiki:Permalink]]
37* [[MediaWiki:Edit]]
38* [[MediaWiki:Delete]]
39* [[MediaWiki:Protect]]
40* [[MediaWiki:Talkpagelinktext]]
41* [[MediaWiki:Personaltools]]
42* [[MediaWiki:Talk]]
43* [[MediaWiki:Toolbox]]
44* [[MediaWiki:Portal]]
45* [[MediaWiki:Portal-url]]
46* [[MediaWiki:Hidetoc]]
47* [[MediaWiki:Nstab-mediawiki]]
48* [[MediaWiki:Nstab-template]]
49* [[MediaWiki:Nstab-help]]
50* [[MediaWiki:Nstab-category]]
51* [[MediaWiki:Italic sample]]
52* [[MediaWiki:Italic tip]]
53* [[MediaWiki:Image sample]]
54* [[MediaWiki:Group-suppress]]
55* [[MediaWiki:Group-suppress-member]]
56* [[MediaWiki:Grouppage-suppress]]
57* [[MediaWiki:Minoreditletter]]
58* [[MediaWiki:Newpageletter]]
59* [[MediaWiki:Specialloguserlabel]]
60* [[MediaWiki:Allpagesfrom]]
61* [[MediaWiki:Categories]]
62* [[MediaWiki:Watch]]
63* [[MediaWiki:Unwatch]]
64* [[MediaWiki:Proxyblocker]]
65* [[MediaWiki:Export]]
66* [[MediaWiki:Allmessagesname]]
67* [[MediaWiki:Allmessagescurrent]]
68* [[MediaWiki:Importfailed]]
69* [[MediaWiki:Version]]
70* [[MediaWiki:Specialpages-group-maintenance]]
71* [[MediaWiki:Specialpages-group-other]]
72* [[MediaWiki:Specialpages-group-changes]]
73* [[MediaWiki:Specialpages-group-users]]
74* [[MediaWiki:Grouppage-oversight]]
75* [[MediaWiki:Group-oversight]]
76* [[MediaWiki:Math tip]]
77
78done!
79
80$ mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki eswikisource --delete
81Checking for pages with default message...
82... fetching message info for content language
83314 pages in the MediaWiki namespace override messages.
8483 pages are equal to the default message (+ 0 talk pages).
85
86...deleting equal messages (this may take a long time!)...
87* [[MediaWiki:Underline-always]]
88* [[MediaWiki:Underline-never]]
89* [[MediaWiki:History short]]
90* [[MediaWiki:Permalink]]
91* [[MediaWiki:Edit]]
92* [[MediaWiki:Create]]
93* [[MediaWiki:Create-this-page]]
94* [[MediaWiki:Delete]]
95* [[MediaWiki:Protect]]
96* [[MediaWiki:Specialpage]]
97* [[MediaWiki:Personaltools]]
98* [[MediaWiki:Talk]]
99* [[MediaWiki:Privacy]]
100* [[MediaWiki:Viewdeleted]]
101* [[MediaWiki:Nstab-main]]
102* [[MediaWiki:Nstab-project]]
103* [[MediaWiki:Nologin]]
104* [[MediaWiki:Nologinlink]]
105* [[MediaWiki:Media sample]]
106* [[MediaWiki:Nextrevision]]
107* [[MediaWiki:Editundo]]
108* [[MediaWiki:Prefs-misc]]
109* [[MediaWiki:Rcshowhideminor]]
110* [[MediaWiki:Rcshowhideliu]]
111* [[MediaWiki:Rcshowhideanons]]
112* [[MediaWiki:Rcshowhidemine]]
113* [[MediaWiki:Minoreditletter]]
114* [[MediaWiki:Filehist-deleteall]]
115* [[MediaWiki:Filehist-dimensions]]
116* [[MediaWiki:Filerevert-submit]]
117* [[MediaWiki:Mimetype]]
118* [[MediaWiki:Unwatchedpages]]
119* [[MediaWiki:Unusedtemplates]]
120* [[MediaWiki:Unusedtemplateswlh]]
121* [[MediaWiki:Unusedcategories]]
122* [[MediaWiki:Wantedcategories]]
123* [[MediaWiki:Mostlinked]]
124* [[MediaWiki:Mostlinkedcategories]]
125* [[MediaWiki:Deadendpages]]
126* [[MediaWiki:Protectedtitles]]
127* [[MediaWiki:Move]]
128* [[MediaWiki:Watch]]
129* [[MediaWiki:Unwatch]]
130* [[MediaWiki:Created]]
131* [[MediaWiki:Excontent]]
132* [[MediaWiki:Delete-edit-reasonlist]]
133* [[MediaWiki:Protectlogpage]]
134* [[MediaWiki:Viewdeletedpage]]
135* [[MediaWiki:Namespace]]
136* [[MediaWiki:Invert]]
137* [[MediaWiki:Isredirect]]
138* [[MediaWiki:Ipbother]]
139* [[MediaWiki:Ip range invalid]]
140* [[MediaWiki:Pagemovedsub]]
141* [[MediaWiki:Movelogpage]]
142* [[MediaWiki:Delete and move confirm]]
143* [[MediaWiki:Export]]
144* [[MediaWiki:Othercontribs]]
145* [[MediaWiki:Markedaspatrolled]]
146* [[MediaWiki:Patrol-log-page]]
147* [[MediaWiki:Thumbsize]]
148* [[MediaWiki:Namespacesall]]
149* [[MediaWiki:Version]]
150* [[MediaWiki:Fileduplicatesearch]]
151* [[MediaWiki:Specialpages-group-other]]
152* [[MediaWiki:Specialpages-group-changes]]
153* [[MediaWiki:Specialpages-group-media]]
154* [[MediaWiki:Specialpages-group-users]]
155* [[MediaWiki:Expandtemplates]]
156* [[MediaWiki:Sitematrix]]
157* [[MediaWiki:Gadgets-uses]]
158* [[MediaWiki:Renameuser]]
159* [[MediaWiki:Sitesupport]]
160* [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index]]
161* [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage header]]
162* [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage footer]]
163* [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage quality0 category]]
164* [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage quality1 category]]
165* [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage quality2 category]]
166* [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage quality3 category]]
167* [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index listofpages]]
168* [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage page status]]
169* [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage-section-tools]]
170
171done!
172
173$ mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki eswiktionary --delete
174Checking for pages with default message...
175... fetching message info for content language
176537 pages in the MediaWiki namespace override messages.
177406 pages are equal to the default message (+ 1 talk pages).
178
179...deleting equal messages (this may take a long time!)...
180* [[MediaWiki:Tog-underline]]
181* [[MediaWiki:Tog-hideminor]]
182* [[MediaWiki:Tog-usenewrc]]
183* [[MediaWiki:Tog-numberheadings]]
184* [[MediaWiki:Tog-showtoolbar]]
185* [[MediaWiki:Tog-editondblclick]]
186* [[MediaWiki:Tog-editsectiononrightclick]]
187* [[MediaWiki:Tog-watchdefault]]
188* [[MediaWiki:Tog-minordefault]]
189* [[MediaWiki:Tog-previewontop]]
190* [[MediaWiki:Tog-previewonfirst]]
191* [[MediaWiki:Sunday]]
192* [[MediaWiki:Monday]]
193* [[MediaWiki:Tuesday]]
194* [[MediaWiki:Wednesday]]
195* [[MediaWiki:Thursday]]
196* [[MediaWiki:Friday]]
197* [[MediaWiki:Saturday]]
198* [[MediaWiki:January]]
199* [[MediaWiki:February]]
200* [[MediaWiki:March]]
201* [[MediaWiki:April]]
202* [[MediaWiki:May long]]
203* [[MediaWiki:June]]
204* [[MediaWiki:July]]
205* [[MediaWiki:August]]
206* [[MediaWiki:September]]
207* [[MediaWiki:October]]
208* [[MediaWiki:November]]
209* [[MediaWiki:December]]
210* [[MediaWiki:Jan]]
211* [[MediaWiki:Feb]]
212* [[MediaWiki:Mar]]
213* [[MediaWiki:Apr]]
214* [[MediaWiki:Jun]]
215* [[MediaWiki:Jul]]
216* [[MediaWiki:Aug]]
217* [[MediaWiki:Sep]]
218* [[MediaWiki:Oct]]
219* [[MediaWiki:Nov]]
220* [[MediaWiki:Dec]]
221* [[MediaWiki:Category header]]
222* [[MediaWiki:Subcategories]]
223* [[MediaWiki:Listingcontinuesabbrev]]
224* [[MediaWiki:About]]
225* [[MediaWiki:Newwindow]]
226* [[MediaWiki:Cancel]]
227* [[MediaWiki:Moredotdotdot]]
228* [[MediaWiki:Navigation]]
229* [[MediaWiki:Qbfind]]
230* [[MediaWiki:Qbbrowse]]
231* [[MediaWiki:Qbedit]]
232* [[MediaWiki:Qbpageoptions]]
233* [[MediaWiki:Qbmyoptions]]
234* [[MediaWiki:Faq]]
235* [[MediaWiki:Sitetitle]]
236* [[MediaWiki:Errorpagetitle]]
237* [[MediaWiki:Help]]
238* [[MediaWiki:Search]]
239* [[MediaWiki:Go]]
240* [[MediaWiki:History]]
241* [[MediaWiki:Printableversion]]
242* [[MediaWiki:Delete]]
243* [[MediaWiki:Deletethispage]]
244* [[MediaWiki:Newpage]]
245* [[MediaWiki:Specialpage]]
246* [[MediaWiki:Personaltools]]
247* [[MediaWiki:Addsection]]
248* [[MediaWiki:Articlepage]]
249* [[MediaWiki:Talk]]
250* [[MediaWiki:Toolbox]]
251* [[MediaWiki:Imagepage]]
252* [[MediaWiki:Otherlanguages]]
253* [[MediaWiki:Redirectedfrom]]
254* [[MediaWiki:Aboutsite]]
255* [[MediaWiki:Aboutpage]]
256* [[MediaWiki:Currentevents]]
257* [[MediaWiki:Edithelppage]]
258* [[MediaWiki:Portal]]
259* [[MediaWiki:Ok]]
260* [[MediaWiki:Retrievedfrom]]
261* [[MediaWiki:Editsection]]
262* [[MediaWiki:Toc]]
263* [[MediaWiki:Showtoc]]
264* [[MediaWiki:Hidetoc]]
265* [[MediaWiki:Thisisdeleted]]
266* [[MediaWiki:Restorelink]]
267* [[MediaWiki:Nstab-user]]
268* [[MediaWiki:Nstab-media]]
269* [[MediaWiki:Nstab-special]]
270* [[MediaWiki:Nstab-mediawiki]]
271* [[MediaWiki:Nstab-template]]
272* [[MediaWiki:Nstab-help]]
273* [[MediaWiki:Nstab-category]]
274* [[MediaWiki:Nosuchaction]]
275* [[MediaWiki:Nosuchspecialpage]]
276* [[MediaWiki:Error]]
277* [[MediaWiki:Databaseerror]]
278* [[MediaWiki:Readonly]]
279* [[MediaWiki:Enterlockreason]]
280* [[MediaWiki:Readonlytext]]
281* [[MediaWiki:Internalerror]]
282* [[MediaWiki:Filecopyerror]]
283* [[MediaWiki:Filerenameerror]]
284* [[MediaWiki:Filedeleteerror]]
285* [[MediaWiki:Filenotfound]]
286* [[MediaWiki:Unexpected]]
287* [[MediaWiki:Badarticleerror]]
288* [[MediaWiki:Cannotdelete]]
289* [[MediaWiki:Badtitle]]
290* [[MediaWiki:Perfcached]]
291* [[MediaWiki:Yourname]]
292* [[MediaWiki:Yourpassword]]
293* [[MediaWiki:Yourpasswordagain]]
294* [[MediaWiki:Remembermypassword]]
295* [[MediaWiki:Userlogin]]
296* [[MediaWiki:Userlogout]]
297* [[MediaWiki:Notloggedin]]
298* [[MediaWiki:Createaccount]]
299* [[MediaWiki:Createaccountmail]]
300* [[MediaWiki:Badretype]]
301* [[MediaWiki:Noname]]
302* [[MediaWiki:Nosuchusershort]]
303* [[MediaWiki:Wrongpassword]]
304* [[MediaWiki:Mailmypassword]]
305* [[MediaWiki:Noemail]]
306* [[MediaWiki:Passwordsent]]
307* [[MediaWiki:Mailerror]]
308* [[MediaWiki:Changepassword]]
309* [[MediaWiki:Oldpassword]]
310* [[MediaWiki:Newpassword]]
311* [[MediaWiki:Retypenew]]
312* [[MediaWiki:Bold sample]]
313* [[MediaWiki:Bold tip]]
314* [[MediaWiki:Italic sample]]
315* [[MediaWiki:Italic tip]]
316* [[MediaWiki:Link sample]]
317* [[MediaWiki:Link tip]]
318* [[MediaWiki:Extlink sample]]
319* [[MediaWiki:Extlink tip]]
320* [[MediaWiki:Nowiki sample]]
321* [[MediaWiki:Image sample]]
322* [[MediaWiki:Media sample]]
323* [[MediaWiki:Summary]]
324* [[MediaWiki:Subject]]
325* [[MediaWiki:Minoredit]]
326* [[MediaWiki:Savearticle]]
327* [[MediaWiki:Showpreview]]
328* [[MediaWiki:Clearyourcache]]
329* [[MediaWiki:Userjspreview]]
330* [[MediaWiki:Updated]]
331* [[MediaWiki:Note]]
332* [[MediaWiki:Explainconflict]]
333* [[MediaWiki:Yourtext]]
334* [[MediaWiki:Storedversion]]
335* [[MediaWiki:Nonunicodebrowser]]
336* [[MediaWiki:Yourdiff]]
337* [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]]
338* [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning2]]
339* [[MediaWiki:Readonlywarning]]
340* [[MediaWiki:Templatesused]]
341* [[MediaWiki:Template-protected]]
342* [[MediaWiki:Template-semiprotected]]
343* [[MediaWiki:Currentrev]]
344* [[MediaWiki:Revisionasof]]
345* [[MediaWiki:Previousrevision]]
346* [[MediaWiki:Nextrevision]]
347* [[MediaWiki:Currentrevisionlink]]
348* [[MediaWiki:Cur]]
349* [[MediaWiki:Next]]
350* [[MediaWiki:Last]]
351* [[MediaWiki:Lineno]]
352* [[MediaWiki:Searchresults]]
353* [[MediaWiki:Titlematches]]
354* [[MediaWiki:Textmatches]]
355* [[MediaWiki:Notextmatches]]
356* [[MediaWiki:Prevn]]
357* [[MediaWiki:Nextn]]
358* [[MediaWiki:Showingresults]]
359* [[MediaWiki:Preferences]]
360* [[MediaWiki:Prefs-misc]]
361* [[MediaWiki:Saveprefs]]
362* [[MediaWiki:Rows]]
363* [[MediaWiki:Columns]]
364* [[MediaWiki:Searchresultshead]]
365* [[MediaWiki:Savedprefs]]
366* [[MediaWiki:Timezonelegend]]
367* [[MediaWiki:Localtime]]
368* [[MediaWiki:Servertime]]
369* [[MediaWiki:Guesstimezone]]
370* [[MediaWiki:Default]]
371* [[MediaWiki:Youremail]]
372* [[MediaWiki:Yourlanguage]]
373* [[MediaWiki:Yourvariant]]
374* [[MediaWiki:Yournick]]
375* [[MediaWiki:Saveusergroups]]
376* [[MediaWiki:Recentchanges]]
377* [[MediaWiki:Recentchanges-url]]
378* [[MediaWiki:Rcnotefrom]]
379* [[MediaWiki:Rclistfrom]]
380* [[MediaWiki:Rcshowhideminor]]
381* [[MediaWiki:Rcshowhideliu]]
382* [[MediaWiki:Rcshowhideanons]]
383* [[MediaWiki:Rcshowhidemine]]
384* [[MediaWiki:Hist]]
385* [[MediaWiki:Hide]]
386* [[MediaWiki:Show]]
387* [[MediaWiki:Minoreditletter]]
388* [[MediaWiki:Newpageletter]]
389* [[MediaWiki:Upload]]
390* [[MediaWiki:Uploadbtn]]
391* [[MediaWiki:Reuploaddesc]]
392* [[MediaWiki:Uploadnologin]]
393* [[MediaWiki:Uploaderror]]
394* [[MediaWiki:Uploadlogpage]]
395* [[MediaWiki:Uploadlogpagetext]]
396* [[MediaWiki:Filename]]
397* [[MediaWiki:Filedesc]]
398* [[MediaWiki:Ignorewarning]]
399* [[MediaWiki:Illegalfilename]]
400* [[MediaWiki:Badfilename]]
401* [[MediaWiki:Emptyfile]]
402* [[MediaWiki:Fileexists]]
403* [[MediaWiki:Uploadwarning]]
404* [[MediaWiki:Savefile]]
405* [[MediaWiki:Uploadedimage]]
406* [[MediaWiki:Uploaddisabled]]
407* [[MediaWiki:Imgfile]]
408* [[MediaWiki:Imagelinks]]
409* [[MediaWiki:Linkstoimage]]
410* [[MediaWiki:Nolinkstoimage]]
411* [[MediaWiki:Listredirects]]
412* [[MediaWiki:Randompage]]
413* [[MediaWiki:Randompage-url]]
414* [[MediaWiki:Statistics]]
415* [[MediaWiki:Doubleredirects]]
416* [[MediaWiki:Doubleredirectstext]]
417* [[MediaWiki:Brokenredirects]]
418* [[MediaWiki:Brokenredirectstext]]
419* [[MediaWiki:Nbytes]]
420* [[MediaWiki:Nlinks]]
421* [[MediaWiki:Lonelypages]]
422* [[MediaWiki:Uncategorizedpages]]
423* [[MediaWiki:Uncategorizedcategories]]
424* [[MediaWiki:Unusedimages]]
425* [[MediaWiki:Wantedpages]]
426* [[MediaWiki:Shortpages]]
427* [[MediaWiki:Longpages]]
428* [[MediaWiki:Deadendpages]]
429* [[MediaWiki:Protectedpages]]
430* [[MediaWiki:Listusers]]
431* [[MediaWiki:Newpages]]
432* [[MediaWiki:Ancientpages]]
433* [[MediaWiki:Move]]
434* [[MediaWiki:Movethispage]]
435* [[MediaWiki:Unusedimagestext]]
436* [[MediaWiki:Booksources]]
437* [[MediaWiki:Rfcurl]]
438* [[MediaWiki:Pubmedurl]]
439* [[MediaWiki:Allpages]]
440* [[MediaWiki:Nextpage]]
441* [[MediaWiki:Allarticles]]
442* [[MediaWiki:Allpagessubmit]]
443* [[MediaWiki:Categories]]
444* [[MediaWiki:Categoriespagetext]]
445* [[MediaWiki:Linksearch-ok]]
446* [[MediaWiki:Mailnologin]]
447* [[MediaWiki:Emailpagetext]]
448* [[MediaWiki:Noemailtitle]]
449* [[MediaWiki:Noemailtext]]
450* [[MediaWiki:Emailfrom]]
451* [[MediaWiki:Emailto]]
452* [[MediaWiki:Emailsubject]]
453* [[MediaWiki:Emailmessage]]
454* [[MediaWiki:Emailsend]]
455* [[MediaWiki:Emailsent]]
456* [[MediaWiki:Emailsenttext]]
457* [[MediaWiki:Watchlist]]
458* [[MediaWiki:Nowatchlist]]
459* [[MediaWiki:Watchnologin]]
460* [[MediaWiki:Removedwatchtext]]
461* [[MediaWiki:Watch]]
462* [[MediaWiki:Watchthispage]]
463* [[MediaWiki:Unwatch]]
464* [[MediaWiki:Unwatchthispage]]
465* [[MediaWiki:Notanarticle]]
466* [[MediaWiki:Deletepage]]
467* [[MediaWiki:Confirm]]
468* [[MediaWiki:Excontent]]
469* [[MediaWiki:Exbeforeblank]]
470* [[MediaWiki:Actioncomplete]]
471* [[MediaWiki:Dellogpage]]
472* [[MediaWiki:Dellogpagetext]]
473* [[MediaWiki:Deletionlog]]
474* [[MediaWiki:Reverted]]
475* [[MediaWiki:Deletecomment]]
476* [[MediaWiki:Rollback]]
477* [[MediaWiki:Rollbacklink]]
478* [[MediaWiki:Rollbackfailed]]
479* [[MediaWiki:Cantrollback]]
480* [[MediaWiki:Revertpage]]
481* [[MediaWiki:Undelete]]
482* [[MediaWiki:Blanknamespace]]
483* [[MediaWiki:Contributions]]
484* [[MediaWiki:Nocontribs]]
485* [[MediaWiki:Uctop]]
486* [[MediaWiki:Whatlinkshere]]
487* [[MediaWiki:Isredirect]]
488* [[MediaWiki:Ipbreason]]
489* [[MediaWiki:Ipbsubmit]]
490* [[MediaWiki:Badipaddress]]
491* [[MediaWiki:Ipb-unblock-addr]]
492* [[MediaWiki:Ipb-unblock]]
493* [[MediaWiki:Ipb-blocklist]]
494* [[MediaWiki:Unblockip]]
495* [[MediaWiki:Unblockiptext]]
496* [[MediaWiki:Ipusubmit]]
497* [[MediaWiki:Ipblocklist]]
498* [[MediaWiki:Unblocklink]]
499* [[MediaWiki:Contribslink]]
500* [[MediaWiki:Range block disabled]]
501* [[MediaWiki:Ipb expiry invalid]]
502* [[MediaWiki:Ip range invalid]]
503* [[MediaWiki:Proxyblocker]]
504* [[MediaWiki:Proxyblockreason]]
505* [[MediaWiki:Lockdb]]
506* [[MediaWiki:Unlockdb]]
507* [[MediaWiki:Lockdbtext]]
508* [[MediaWiki:Unlockdbtext]]
509* [[MediaWiki:Lockconfirm]]
510* [[MediaWiki:Unlockconfirm]]
511* [[MediaWiki:Lockbtn]]
512* [[MediaWiki:Unlockbtn]]
513* [[MediaWiki:Locknoconfirm]]
514* [[MediaWiki:Lockdbsuccesssub]]
515* [[MediaWiki:Unlockdbsuccesssub]]
516* [[MediaWiki:Lockdbsuccesstext]]
517* [[MediaWiki:Unlockdbsuccesstext]]
518* [[MediaWiki:Movenologintext]]
519* [[MediaWiki:Newtitle]]
520* [[MediaWiki:Pagemovedsub]]
521* [[MediaWiki:Movetalk]]
522* [[MediaWiki:Export]]
523* [[MediaWiki:Allmessages]]
524* [[MediaWiki:Thumbnail-more]]
525* [[MediaWiki:Filemissing]]
526* [[MediaWiki:Tooltip-search]]
527* [[MediaWiki:Tooltip-minoredit]]
528* [[MediaWiki:Tooltip-save]]
529* [[MediaWiki:Tooltip-preview]]
530* [[MediaWiki:Siteuser]]
531* [[MediaWiki:Othercontribs]]
532* [[MediaWiki:Others]]
533* [[MediaWiki:Siteusers]]
534* [[MediaWiki:Creditspage]]
535* [[MediaWiki:Nocredits]]
536* [[MediaWiki:Spamprotectiontitle]]
537* [[MediaWiki:Spamprotectiontext]]
538* [[MediaWiki:Spamprotectionmatch]]
539* [[MediaWiki:Markaspatrolleddiff]]
540* [[MediaWiki:Markaspatrolledlink]]
541* [[MediaWiki:Markaspatrolledtext]]
542* [[MediaWiki:Markedaspatrolled]]
543* [[MediaWiki:Markedaspatrolledtext]]
544* [[MediaWiki:Rcpatroldisabled]]
545* [[MediaWiki:Rcpatroldisabledtext]]
546* [[MediaWiki:Deletedrevision]]
547* [[MediaWiki:Previousdiff]]
548* [[MediaWiki:Nextdiff]]
549* [[MediaWiki:Imagemaxsize]]
550* [[MediaWiki:Imagelisttext]]
551* [[MediaWiki:Noimages]]
552* [[MediaWiki:Ilsubmit]]
553* [[MediaWiki:Bydate]]
554* [[MediaWiki:Variantname-zh-cn]]
555* [[MediaWiki:Variantname-zh-tw]]
556* [[MediaWiki:Variantname-zh-hk]]
557* [[MediaWiki:Variantname-zh-sg]]
558* [[MediaWiki:Variantname-zh]]
559* [[MediaWiki:Imgmultigo]]
560* [[MediaWiki:Table pager next]]
561* [[MediaWiki:Table pager prev]]
562* [[MediaWiki:Table pager first]]
563* [[MediaWiki:Table pager last]]
564* [[MediaWiki:Table pager limit]]
565* [[MediaWiki:Table pager limit submit]]
566* [[MediaWiki:Specialpages]]
567* [[MediaWiki:Expand templates output]]
568* [[MediaWiki:Sitematrix]]
569* [[MediaWiki:Categorytree-mode-all]]
570* [[MediaWiki:Categorytree-load]]
571* [[MediaWiki:Categorytree-not-found]]
572* [[MediaWiki:Renameuser]]
573* [[MediaWiki:Renameusersubmit]]
574* [[MediaWiki:Math bad output]]
575* [[MediaWiki:Math bad tmpdir]]
576* [[MediaWiki:Math failure]]
577* [[MediaWiki:Math lexing error]]
578* [[MediaWiki:Math notexvc]]
579* [[MediaWiki:Math syntax error]]
580* [[MediaWiki:Math tip]]
581* [[MediaWiki:Math unknown error]]
582* [[MediaWiki:Math unknown function]]
583* [[MediaWiki:Mw math mathml]]
584* [[MediaWiki:Mw math png]]
585* [[MediaWiki:Mw math source]]
586
587done!
588
589$ mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki eswikiversity --delete
590Checking for pages with default message...
591... fetching message info for content language
59260 pages in the MediaWiki namespace override messages.
5933 pages are equal to the default message (+ 1 talk pages).
594
595...deleting equal messages (this may take a long time!)...
596* [[MediaWiki:Mypreferences]]
597* [[MediaWiki:Vector-action-addsection]]
598* [[MediaWiki:Vector-more-actions]]
599
600done!

Mentioned in SAL [2016-08-18T21:23:09Z] <Dereckson> Run deleteEqualMessages maintenance script on eswikibooks, eswikiquote, eswikisource, eswiktionary and eswikiversity (T45917)

Is this possible to move mediawiki: namespace translations to translatewiki.net? Previously we had translated huge amount of mediawiki software strings locally. Some have been outdated but many of them are useful. And now we would like to continue translate on translatewiki.

The issue is how to sort them between Wikimedia-specific messages and universal messages for every wikis?

The issue is how to sort them between Wikimedia-specific messages and universal messages for every wikis?

I want it for specific wiki, ur.wiki

Yes but that's exactly the problem.

TranslateWiki manages the translation for EVERY wiki un Urdu (and you can set every installation of MediaWiki in Urdu just adding ?uselang=ur).

Wikimedia and Wikipedia specific translations should be done on wiki.

Universal translations should be done on TranslateWiki.

So yes, we can export translations from ur.wikipedia to import them to TranslateWiki, but there is a need to know what messages to import, what not.

Yes but that's exactly the problem.
TranslateWiki manages the translation for EVERY wiki un Urdu (and you can set every installation of MediaWiki in Urdu just adding ?uselang=ur).
Wikimedia and Wikipedia specific translations should be done on wiki.
Universal translations should be done on TranslateWiki.
So yes, we can export translations from ur.wikipedia to import them to TranslateWiki, but there is a need to know what messages to import, what not.

In that case, Will you delete mediawiki: messeges on ur.wiki? Because now we are translating on translatewiki.

Dereckson added a comment.EditedAug 21 2016, 2:52 PM

We can't start to delete messages with the same values on ur. and TranslateWiki if you wish.

That would delete 297 messages with the (identical) translation already on TranslateWiki.

We can't start to delete messages with the same values on ur. and TranslateWiki if you wish.
That would delete 297 messages with the (identical) translation already on TranslateWiki.

You can't? :)

We can sorry :)

We can sorry :)

Thanks, Okay, I wish to delete those messeges which have same value on both wiki.

Mentioned in SAL [2016-08-21T15:01:16Z] <Dereckson> Run deleteEqualMessages maintenance script on urwiki (T45917)

@Dereckson, Will you export for me urwiki mediawiki messeges which do not exist on translatewiki? I can help which messeges to be imported to translatewiki.

Here the list of messages to export:

1page_title
2Aboutpage
3Aboutsite
4Aboutwikipedia
5Abusefilter-action-block
6Abusefilter-action-disallow
7Abusefilter-action-tag
8Abusefilter-action-warn
9Abusefilter-autobiography
10Abusefilter-changeslist-examine
11Abusefilter-diff-version
12Abusefilter-disabled
13Abusefilter-edit
14Abusefilter-edit-action-disallow
15Abusefilter-edit-done
16Abusefilter-edit-lastmod-text
17Abusefilter-english_message
18Abusefilter-filter-log
19Abusefilter-hidden
20Abusefilter-history
21Abusefilter-history-backedit
22Abusefilter-history-error-hidden
23Abusefilter-history-foruser
24Abusefilter-history-public
25Abusefilter-history-select-legend
26Abusefilter-history-select-submit
27Abusefilter-hitcount
28Abusefilter-intro
29Abusefilter-list
30Abusefilter-list-consequences
31Abusefilter-list-hitcount
32Abusefilter-list-id
33Abusefilter-list-lastmodified
34Abusefilter-list-limit
35Abusefilter-list-options-deleted
36Abusefilter-list-options-deleted-hide
37Abusefilter-list-options-deleted-only
38Abusefilter-list-options-deleted-show
39Abusefilter-list-options-disabled
40Abusefilter-list-options-hidedisabled
41Abusefilter-list-options-scope-global
42Abusefilter-list-options-scope-local
43Abusefilter-list-options-submit
44Abusefilter-list-public
45Abusefilter-list-status
46Abusefilter-list-visibility
47Abusefilter-log
48Abusefilter-log-cannot-see-details
49Abusefilter-log-detailedentry-local
50Abusefilter-log-detailedentry-meta
51Abusefilter-log-details-hidden
52Abusefilter-log-details-legend
53Abusefilter-log-details-vars
54Abusefilter-log-entry-modify
55Abusefilter-log-hide-hidden
56Abusefilter-log-hide-legend
57Abusefilter-log-linkoncontribs
58Abusefilter-log-linkoncontribs-text
59Abusefilter-log-name
60Abusefilter-log-search
61Abusefilter-log-search-filter
62Abusefilter-log-summary
63Abusefilter-management
64Abusefilter-new
65Abusefilter-revert-reasonfield
66Abusefilter-status
67Abusefilter-test
68Abusefilter-topnav
69Abusefilter-topnav-examine
70Abusefilter-topnav-home
71Abusefilter-topnav-import
72Abusefilter-topnav-log
73Abusefilter-topnav-test
74Abusefilter-topnav-tools
75Abusefilter-warning
76Abusefilter-warning-alqaab
77Abusefilter-warning-engcat
78Abusefilter-warning-englishtitle
79Abusefilter-warning-erab
80Abusefilter-warning-largeaddition-notice
81Abusefilter-warning-link-spam
82Abusefilter-warning-removal
83Abusefilter-warning-removing
84Abusefilter-warning-short-new-article
85Abusefilter-warning-sign
86Abusefilter-warning-testeditwarn
87Abusefilter-warning-uncategorized-category
88Abusefilter-warning-userpage
89Abusefilter-warning-wikify
90Abuselog
91Accesskey-pt-editor
92Accmailtext
93Accmailtitle
94Acct_creation_global_hard_throttle_hit
95Acct_creation_throttle_hit
96Action-checkuser
97Action-checkuser-log
98Action-createaccount
99Action-createpage
100Action-createtalk
101Action-delete
102Action-deletedhistory
103Action-edit
104Action-import
105Action-importupload
106Action-interwiki
107Action-mergehistory
108Action-minoredit
109Action-move
110Action-move-rootuserpages
111Action-move-subpages
112Action-movefile
113Action-patrol
114Action-protect
115Action-read
116Action-sendemail
117Action-translate-import
118Action-undelete
119Action-upload
120Action-userrights
121Action-userrights-interwiki
122Actioncomplete
123Actions
124Actionthrottled
125Actionthrottledtext
126Activeusers
127Activeusers-count
128Activeusers-from
129Activeusers-hidebots
130Activeusers-hidesysops
131Activeusers-intro
132Addedwatch
133Addedwatchtext
134Addgroup
135Addwatch
136Administrators
137All
138All-logs-page
139All_messages
140All_system_messages
141Allarticles
142Allinnamespace
143Allmessages-filter-legend
144Allmessages-filter-modified
145Allmessages-filter-submit
146Allmessages-filter-unmodified
147Allmessagesfilter
148Allmessagesmodified
149AllmessagesnotsupportedDB
150AllmessagesnotsupportedUI
151Allmessagestext
152Allpages-bad-ns
153Allpages-desc
154Allpages-desc/en
155Allpages-hide-redirects
156Allpages-url
157Allpagesbadtitle
158Allpagesnext
159Allpagesprev
160Allpagessubmit
161Allpagesto
162Alphaindexline
163Already_steward
164Already_sysop
165Alreadyloggedin
166Alreadyrolled
167Anoneditwarning
168Anontalk
169Anontalkpagetext
170Anonuser
171Anonusers
172Antispoof-name-illegal
173Antispoof-noletters
174Api-error-badaccess-groups
175Api-error-empty-file
176Api-error-emptypage
177Api-error-filename-tooshort
178Api-error-filetype-banned
179Api-error-filetype-missing
180Api-error-illegal-filename
181Api-error-mustbeloggedin
182Apisb-label-doc
183Apisb-legend-parameters
184Apisb-no-js
185Apisb-query-list
186April
187April-gen
188AprilCalender
189Articleexists
190Articlefeedback-error
191Articlefeedback-field-objective-tooltip-5
192Articlefeedback-field-trustworthy-tip
193Articlefeedbackv5-bucket1-title
194Articlefeedbackv5-bucket6-question-instructions-no
195Articlefeedbackv5-bucket6-question-instructions-yes
196Articlefeedbackv5-bucket6-question-placeholder-yes
197Articlefeedbackv5-bucket6-title
198Articlefeedbackv5-bucket6-toggle-found-no-full
199Articlefeedbackv5-bucket6-toggle-found-yes-full
200Articlefeedbackv5-comment-less
201Articlefeedbackv5-contribs-feedback
202Articlefeedbackv5-contribs-status-action-helpful
203Articlefeedbackv5-cta-confirmation-message
204Articlefeedbackv5-cta2-confirmation-call
205Articlefeedbackv5-cta4-button-text-signup
206Articlefeedbackv5-disable-flyover-help-location
207Articlefeedbackv5-disable-flyover-prefbutton
208Articlefeedbackv5-error
209Articlefeedbackv5-error-email
210Articlefeedbackv5-form-feature
211Articlefeedbackv5-form-helpful-label
212Articlefeedbackv5-form-hide-own
213Articlefeedbackv5-form-unhide-own
214Articlepage
215Articletitles
216Ascending_abbrev
217Autoblock_whitelist
218Autoblockedtext
219Autoblocker
220Autoredircomment
221Autosumm-blank
222Autosumm-replace
223AxUserMsg.js
224Badaccess-groups
225Betafeatures-auto-enroll
226Blankpage
227Block
228Block-log-flags-anononly
229Block-log-flags-nocreate
230Block-log-flags-noemail
231Block-log-flags-nousertalk
232Blockip
233Blockip-legend
234Blockipsuccesssub
235Blockipsuccesstext
236Blockiptext
237Blocklist
238Blocklog-showlog
239Blocklogentry
240Blocklogtext
241Booksources-go
242Broken-file-category
243Brokenredirects
244Bydate
245Byname
246Bysize
247Cachederror
248CadreCarteOSM.js
249Cannotdelete
250Cannotdelete-title
251Cascadeprotectedwarning
252Categories
253Categories1
254Categoriespagetext
255Category
256Category-article-count
257Category-article-count-limited
258Category-empty
259Category-file-count
260Category-media-count
261Category-move-redirect-override
262Category-subcat-count
263Category-subcat-count-limited
264Category_header
265Categoryarticlecount
266Categoryarticlecount1
267Categorytree-collapse
268Categorytree-desc
269Categorytree-loading
270Categorytree-member-num
271Categorytree-show-list
272Categorytree-show-tree
273Categorytree-tab
274Categorytree-too-many-subcats
275Centralauth
276Centralauth-admin-blocklog
277Centralauth-admin-info-editcount
278Centralauth-admin-info-groups
279Centralauth-admin-info-home
280Centralauth-admin-info-id
281Centralauth-admin-info-locked
282Centralauth-admin-info-nogroups
283Centralauth-admin-info-registered
284Centralauth-admin-info-username
285Centralauth-admin-intro
286Centralauth-admin-list-attached-on
287Centralauth-admin-list-blocked
288Centralauth-admin-list-editcount
289Centralauth-admin-list-groups
290Centralauth-admin-list-legend-ro
291Centralauth-admin-list-localwiki
292Centralauth-admin-lookup-ro
293Centralauth-admin-manage
294Centralauth-admin-title-ro
295Centralauth-admin-view
296Centralauth-block-already-locked
297Centralauth-complete
298Centralauth-complete-text
299Centralauth-contribs-locked
300Centralauth-error-locked
301Centralauth-finish-incomplete
302Centralauth-finish-send-confirmation
303Centralauth-foreign-link
304Centralauth-groupname
305Centralauth-hours-ago
306Centralauth-incomplete
307Centralauth-list-attached
308Centralauth-list-attached-title
309Centralauth-list-home-title
310Centralauth-list-unattached-title
311Centralauth-log-entry-delete
312Centralauth-log-entry-hide
313Centralauth-log-name
314Centralauth-login-no-others
315Centralauth-login-progress
316Centralauth-logout-no-others
317Centralauth-logout-progress
318Centralauth-merge-denied
319Centralauth-merge-method-primary
320Centralauth-merge-step1-submit
321Centralauth-merge-step2-submit
322Centralauth-minutes-ago
323Centralauth-months-ago
324Centralauth-prefs-complete
325Centralauth-prefs-count-attached
326Centralauth-prefs-manage
327Centralauth-prefs-status
328Centralauth-prefs-unattached
329Centralauth-readmore-text
330Centralauth-rightslog-name
331Centralauth-ro
332Centralauth-seconds-ago
333Centralauth-years-ago
334Centralnotice-all-projects
335Centralnotice-banner-anonymous
336Centralnotice-insert
337Changeemail
338Changeemail-header
339Changeemail-text
340Changes
341Checkuser-contribs
342Checkuser-massblock
343Checkuser-massblock-commit
344China
345Cirrussearch-now-using
346Cite-tracking-category-cite-error
347Cite-ve-dialogbutton-referenceslist-tooltip
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349Cite_error_refs_without_references
350Cite_reference_link
351Cite_references_link_many
352Clearyourcache
353Code-rev-comment-preview
354Code-rev-diff
355Code-rev-diff-link
356Code-rev-imagediff
357Code-rev-inline-preview
358Code-rev-modified-a
359Code-rev-modified-d
360Code-signoff-field-flag
361Code-stats
362Code-tags
363Codereview-batch-title
364Codereview-email-subj3
365Coll-article-attribution/ur
366Coll-book_creator_intro
367Coll-disable
368Coll-download_as
369Coll-download_title
370Coll-format-rl
371Coll-helppage
372Coll-print_export
373Coll-printable_version_pdf
374Coll-setting-papersize-a4
375Coll-setting-toc-auto
376Collapsible-collapse
377Cologneblue.css
378Comma-separator
379Commentedit
380Common.css
381Common.js
382Common.js/edit.js
383Common.js/watchlist.js
384Commonsmetadata-trackingcategory-no-author
385Commonsmetadata-trackingcategory-no-description
386Commonsmetadata-trackingcategory-no-license
387Commonsmetadata-trackingcategory-no-source
388Communityhiring-paragraphs
389CompactTOC
390Compare-page1
391Compare-page2
392Compare-rev1
393Compare-rev2
394Compare-selector
395Compare-submit
396Compare-title-not-exists
397Comparepages
398Compareselectedversions
399Configure-js-remove
400Configure-js-remove-row
401Configure-no-diff
402Configuredpages-def-draft
403Configuredpages-def-stable
404Confirm-purge-bottom
405Confirm-purge-top
406Confirm-unwatch-button
407Confirm-unwatch-top
408Confirm-watch-button
409Confirm-watch-top
410Confirm_purge
411Confirm_purge_button
412Confirmcheck
413Confirmdelete
414Confirmdeletetext
415Confirmemail
416Confirmemail_error
417Confirmemail_send
418Confirmemail_text
419Confirmprotect
420Confirmprotecttext
421Confirmunprotecttext
422Contact-desc
423Contact-desc/en
424Contact-url
425Contactpage-legend
426Content-model-css
427Content-model-wikitext
428Contest-contest-reminder-sending
429Continue-editing
430Contribs-showhideminor
431Contribsub
432Contribsub2
433Contributions
434Contributions-title
435Contributionsall
436Copyrightpage
437Copyrightpagename
438Copyrightwarning
439Create-this-page
440Createaccount
441Createacct-submit
442Createarticle
443Creating
444Crossnamespacelinks
445Current-events-desc
446Current-events-desc/en
447Current-events-url
448Currentevents-url
449Currentrev
450Currentrev-asof
451Cx-beta
452Cx-beta-desc
453Cx-contributions-upload
454Cx-tools-instructions-text1/ur
455Datetime
456Deadendpages
457Deadendpagestext
458Defemailsubject
459Delete-confirm
460Delete-edit-reasonlist
461Delete_and_move_text
462Deletecomment
463Deletedcontributions
464Deletedcontributions-title
465Deletedrev
466Deletedtext
467Deleteimg
468Deleteimgcompletely
469Deleteotherreason
470Deletereason-dropdown
471Deletereasonotherlist
472Deletesub
473Deleting-backlinks-warning
474Destfilename
475Difference
476Difference-title
477Disambiguationpages
478Disambiguationpages-summary
479Disambiguations
480Disambiguations-text
481Disambiguationspage
482Disambiguationstext
483Disclaimerpage
484Disclaimers
485Donate_interface-EUR
486Donate_interface-USD
487Donate_interface-translate-bluelink
488Donate_interface-translate-redlink1
489Dot-separator
490Doubleredirects
491Doubleredirectsarrow
492Drafts-view
493Duplicatesoffile
494Duration-days
495Echo-notification-count
496Echo-notification-message
497Echo-notification-notice
498Echo-notification-placeholder
499Edit-externally
500Edit-externally-help
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502Editcurrent
503Edithelp
504Editinginterface
505Editingold
506Editnotice-0
507Editnotice-10
508Editnotice-2
509Editnotice-3
510Editnotice-3-محمد_شعیب
511Editnotice-4
512Editnotice-4-درخواست_اختیارات-نصب
513Editnotice-4-ویکی_منصوبہ_تخلیق_مضامین_شہر-درخواست_تخلیق
514Editpage-head-copy-warn
515Editsectionhint
516Edittoolbar-section-advanced
517EdittoolsSandbox.js
518Email-legend
519Emailauthenticated
520Emailblock
521Emailcapture-success
522Emailccme
523Emaillink
524Emailmessage
525Emailpage
526Emailpagetext
527Emailsent
528Emailsenttext
529Emailtarget
530Emailto
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You need to clean it: remove any Wikipedia or Wikimedia message.

The goal is to:

  • translate on wiki Wikimedia/Wikipedia messages
  • translate on TranslateWiki universal messages

@Dereckson, Will you export for me urwiki mediawiki messeges which do not exist on translatewiki? I can help which messeges to be imported to translatewiki.

Thanks, this is important work. :)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2016-09-30T22:06:07Z] <Krinkle> Re-run mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php on all wikis it was previously run on (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2016-11-07T23:15:04Z] <Krinkle> mwscript --deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki gawiktionary (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2016-11-07T23:32:47Z] <Krinkle> mwscript --deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki jawikibooks (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2016-11-07T23:50:39Z] <Krinkle> mwscript --deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki jawikinews (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2016-11-08T16:21:08Z] <Krinkle> mwscript --deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki kkwiki (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2016-11-08T17:41:36Z] <Krinkle> mwscript --deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki ptwikinews (T45917)

Can angwiki be run next? Thanks.

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2016-11-25T20:09:34Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki angwiki (T45917)

Krinkle added a comment.EditedNov 25 2016, 8:10 PM

Can angwiki be run next? Thanks.

✅ Done!

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2017-01-04T21:55:08Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki nowiki (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2017-01-04T21:55:15Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki nowikinews (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2017-01-24T01:18:58Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki gotwiki (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2017-02-23T00:18:40Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki simplewikibooks (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2017-03-07T03:28:58Z] <Krinkle> foreachwikiindblist closed deleteEqualMessages.php (T45917) - purge upstreamed translations from closed wikis

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2017-03-07T05:22:04Z] <Krinkle> foreachwikiindblist 'all - closed - private' deleteEqualMessages.php (T45917) - purge upstreamed translations from remaining wikis

Krinkle closed this task as Resolved.Mar 7 2017, 5:22 AM
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We should do this once or twice a year. Nice job, thanks.

Krinkle added a comment.EditedMar 7 2017, 8:01 PM

@MarcoAurelio Thanks. Yeah, my thoughts exactly. This should be re-run from time to time as upstreaming happens all the time.

Meanwhile, as always, feel free to ask here or on IRC for a run on a specific wiki (or set of wikis).

Reedy added a comment.Mar 7 2017, 8:07 PM

It'd be interesting to see the scale of this in relation to T158360...

Any reason we can't cronjob it, say monthly?

Any reason we can't cronjob it, say monthly?

This is supposed not to be a recurring task on each wiki: if it's needed regularly, then something is wrong.

Reedy added a comment.Mar 7 2017, 9:35 PM

Any reason we can't cronjob it, say monthly?

This is supposed not to be a recurring task on each wiki: if it's needed regularly, then something is wrong.

People that don't want to wait for train deploys and/or LocalisationUpdate?

People that don't want to wait for train deploys and/or LocalisationUpdate?

Forcing such people to edit the MediaWiki namespace would be a broken system.

Zppix added a subscriber: Zppix.Mar 7 2017, 9:40 PM

I agree with @Nemo_bis why force people to do something they dont want to, especially if we have the ability to do it ourselves.

Reedy added a comment.Mar 7 2017, 9:50 PM

That's what I'm saying. The usual reason people were editing the messages was because LU was broken, or there was a long time between deploys.

I'm not even suggesting we encourage people to edit the MW namespace like that

So if anything we should have a cronjob with a dry run, which triggers an alert somewhere when messages get translated locally. It could be one useful signal of an insufficient frequency of localisation updates, due to broken LocalisationUpdate or other reasons. (In general, we already know that the updates must be daily; but contingent data points are still useful.)

So if anything we should have a cronjob with a dry run, which triggers an alert somewhere when messages get translated locally. It could be one useful signal of an insufficient frequency of localisation updates, due to broken LocalisationUpdate or other reasons. (In general, we already know that the updates must be daily; but contingent data points are still useful.)

This.

I regularly check Special:AllMessages in languages that I know. I wish it was done in all languages, but I alone don't have the capacity to do it manually. I very frequently find not only translation mistakes, but also reasons to fix the original English message, and of course this happens not only when the local customization is the same as the original message, but also when it's different.

It's good to have local translation in the MediaWiki space as a quick fix for particularly bad translation mistakes, or for actually-needed local customizations, but it must not be relied upon as a an actual way to translate the interface, even temporarily. (And even though I'm saying "actually-needed local customization", these should actually always raise the question of whether this thing should be done through a message at all, but that's a separate topic.)

So if anything we should have a cronjob with a dry run, which triggers an alert somewhere when messages get translated locally. [..]

I regularly check Special:AllMessages in languages that I know. I wish it was done in all languages, but I alone don't have the capacity to do it manually. [..]

If I understand correctly, you're looking for instances of where the translation is overridden and not equal - e.g. to find potential improvements that could be upstreamed. I'm not sure how to automate that since many of those will be semi-permanent local modifications that are specific to the wiki.

However if we want to find out about translations that were once local overrides but are now redundant (presumably due to it being upstreamed), I could run the maintenance script that this task is about, from a cron on terbium.

It's only been 10 days, but there are already plenty of translations detected again that are now equal:

foreachwikiindblist 'all - private' deleteEqualMessages.php | tee out-deleteEqualMessages-allwikis-dry.log
-----------------------------------------------------------------
aawiki
-----------------------------------------------------------------
aawiki:  Checking for pages with default message...
aawiki:  ... fetching message info for content language
aawiki:  done.
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Filtered output:

$ grep '*' out-deleteEqualMessages-allwikis-dry.log 
bnwiki:  * [[মিডিয়াউইকি:Cite references link many format backlink labels]]
cebwiki:  * [[MediaWiki:Loginreqlink]]
commonswiki:  * [[MediaWiki:Kartographer.js]]
donatewiki:  * [[MediaWiki:Donate interface-problemsdonating]]
donatewiki:  * [[MediaWiki:Fundraiserlandingpage-wmch-landing-page]]
elwiki:  * [[MediaWiki:Ep-addstudents-btn]]
elwiki:  * [[MediaWiki:Ep-user-roles-message-additional]]
guwikisource:  * [[મીડિયાવિકિ:Common.js]]
guwikisource:  * [[મીડિયાવિકિ ચર્ચા:Common.js]]
guwikisource:  * [[મીડિયાવિકિ:Proofreadpage quality3 category]]
hrwiktionary:  * [[MediaWiki:Prefs-personal]]
mkwiki:  * [[МедијаВики:Searchresults-title]]
plwiki:  * [[MediaWiki:Wm-license-cc-wiki-link]]
plwiki:  * [[MediaWiki:Wikieditor-toolbar-tool-link-int-target]]
plwiki:  * [[MediaWiki:Wikieditor-toolbar-tool-link-int-text]]
plwiki:  * [[MediaWiki:Geodata-broken-tags-category]]
ruwiki:  * [[MediaWiki:Create-local]]
trwiki:  * [[MediaWiki:Autosumm-blank]]
trwiki:  * [[MediaWiki:Group-interface-editor]]
trwiki:  * [[MediaWiki:Grouppage-interface-editor]]
trwikibooks:  * [[MediaWiki:Autosumm-blank]]
trwikiquote:  * [[MediaWiki:Autosumm-blank]]
trwikisource:  * [[MediaWiki:Autosumm-blank]]
trwiktionary:  * [[MediaWiki:Autosumm-blank]]
trwiktionary:  * [[MediaWiki tartışma:Autosumm-blank]]
ukwikivoyage:  * [[MediaWiki:Group-uploader]]
ukwikivoyage:  * [[MediaWiki:Group-uploader-member]]
ukwikivoyage:  * [[MediaWiki:Wikibase-otherprojects-wikipedia]]
ukwikivoyage:  * [[MediaWiki:Interlanguage-link-wikipedia]]
ukwikivoyage:  * [[MediaWiki:Interlanguage-link-commons]]

I'm open for ideas on whether to schedule this periodically, as dry run or not, and if dry run, where to publish it. (https://people.wikimedia.org/~krinkle/ maybe?)

if dry run, where to publish it. (https://people.wikimedia.org/~krinkle/ maybe?)

That would be ok. On the other hand, this list already proves that LocalisationUpdate is needed and must be faster, to avoid accumulating translator frustration and unnecessary technical debt (see ruwiki example: https://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ACreate-local&type=revision&diff=84144899&oldid=84144800 https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=MediaWiki%3ACreate-local%2Fru&type=revision&diff=7293894&oldid=5453967 ).

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2017-03-21T00:04:54Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php on public wikis (T45917)

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2017-03-25T20:08:22Z] <Krinkle> Ran mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php on public wikis (T45917) - deleted 5 pages across 5 wikis

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2018-07-18T05:09:26Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki test2wiki (deleted 2 pages) - T45917

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2018-07-18T05:09:32Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki metawiki (deleted 1 page) - T45917

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2018-07-18T05:11:13Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki frwiki (5 pages) - T45917

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2018-07-18T05:11:27Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki ruwiki (4 pages) - T45917

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2018-07-18T05:11:41Z] <Krinkle> mwscript deleteEqualMessages.php --wiki dewiki (1 page) - T45917

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