Is this specific to Mediawiki, or CI infrastructure across the org?

@hashar, T86372 is a discussion about our general CI / deployment strategy and how virtualization can help us there, especially in a service context. At first sight there is a good amount of overlap with this session. Do you think it would make sense to merge the two?

In T86752#982247, @BGerstle-WMF wrote:

Is this specific to Mediawiki, or CI infrastructure across the org?

That is more geared toward MediaWiki itself. I would like to shortly present the crazy ideas listed above and spend most of the time gathering feedbacks from the audience (read: heated discussions).

My vision is to drastically enhance our tests with true unit tests (i.e. no backends needed) that have extensive coverages. I would like us to have true integration tests which are run against a setup close to production (ElasticSearch, Parsoid, *oids etc).

Long term, given we have a sufficient confidence in our tests, we would be able to deploy the integrated set of repositories directly to the site. But that is a long term utopia.

I think the audience is going to be general devs. I no more scale, gotta need other folks to help rethink how we define the jobs and delegate the task to devs. After all people writing the code are in the best place to create the integration tests that check their code.

Maybe the topic can be renamed.

In T86752#982567, @GWicke wrote:

@hashar, T86372 is a discussion about our general CI / deployment strategy and how virtualization can help us there, especially in a service context. At first sight there is a good amount of overlap with this session. Do you think it would make sense to merge the two?

I have seen the topic T86372: MediaWiki Developer Summit 2015 panel proposal: Service virtualization, deployment & CI it seems more geared toward the people doing the deployment and service maintenance. That is a smaller set of people and that is heavily tied to the Wikimedia infrastructure. We can surely talk about MediaWiki/Vagrant / CI isolation in that panel. I think the general dev is not going to be interested in the implementation details :-D

I will be in the office on Tuesday and will definitely seek Gabriel since we know each other for quite a long time. Whenever we cross our paths, let have a coffee and talk!

Etherpad https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/MWDS2015-CI
Slides https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/11n7IzYuecEpDQn1n3QMvIRI_3qrxn6czBehbF4JGjps/

Please update the description with the achievements of this session. Thank you in advance.