Based on feedback here and in the topic itself, we will be keeping development as simple as possible. We will commission work that:
- integrates the three options from MediaWiki into Space user profiles
- identifies strings that may be gendered in different languages
- provides a system for localizing those strings to make them responsive, across languages, to the pronoun selection
Wed, Oct 16
pinging @hdothiduc on this for thoughts before reporting upstream.
Thanks @Bawolff, the policy in the footer for Discourse MediaWiki is now updated.
We have started development on these features. We have organized the range of features into two types of improvements: multilingual discovery improvements and multilingual locale improvements.
Tue, Oct 15
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Mon, Oct 7
@Aklapper Apologies, I didn't respond earlier because the users were already voicing similar ideas in the topic. This is really not set in stone at all and we want something that will feel empowering and comfortable to people, that will also allow us to make sure Space is growing as an inclusive and diverse platform. I've explained more in the topic. Would be great to have your feedback there directly!
Tue, Oct 1
Quim has reminded me that, indeed, there are cases where Discourse does point out the gender of a user (particularly when the UI is not in English): https://meta.discourse.org/t/gender-and-translations/73728. This is also a UI issue that we will likely tackle at some point, but want to start a measure like this to bring more attention to diversity.
Discourse doesn't refer to users with pronouns, so the issue for us is more about awareness and visibility. We'd like to be able to promote gender diversity on Wikimedia Space, and have a range of options that people will feel comfortable with in self-identifying. It's just a different use case.
Mon, Sep 30
As far as I know, this is not exactly the avenue we're pursuing for outreach at this point. I'd advocate for closing this task and opening a new one about creating a client list, and then maybe another one about outreach to those people in particular. What do you think @Qgil?
Possibility of a drop-down menu, eliminating "I prefer not to say" as the field will be optional anyway. Additional space to specify different identity, when selected.
Fri, Sep 27
Because the calendar is just based on the feed of events, it would fall under this task: T215053: Write an extension for displaying Discourse feeds on mediawiki.org. Once the extension is finished, people will be able to create a feed of events from Space on-wiki.
Wikimedia login is now deployed on Space. I have released notifying people of this change, and informing them what to do in the case of account duplication.
Thu, Sep 26
The cause of the problem has been identified and we are resolving this username issue on a case-by-case basis.
Thanks for reporting this @Gamaliel.
Fri, Sep 20
Sep 17 2019
Sep 16 2019
The plugin has been modified so that if a user attempts to login with a Wikimedia account that has the same email, but a different username, as a Wikimedia account a user has previously used to login with, the login will fail, showing the user an error message that reads "Your Wikimedia email is associated with an existing account". The developer has also updated the check that looks at whether a Wikimedia email is associated with an existing account to use the user’s Central ID instead of their username, which prevents issues arising from usernames changing.
As stated, the plugin currently doesn't attempt to view real name, and advancement on T151515: authonlyprivate OAuth grant should not mention real name when the wiki does not allow them means that the OAuth grant is close to correctly reflecting this.
Sep 12 2019
Adding Hang as a subscriber to get her take on exploring and implementing these changes.
Just a note that we may not actually need to commission this, as it is being worked on here: https://thepavilion.io/t/events-recurring-and-or-multiple-events/841/9
This is great, thanks! I saw your comment last night on https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/t/new-tag-for-wiki-club-west/1254/3 and was so relieved to see this is already possible. We just have to update the links, look into intersections, and figure out an obvious way to allow people to add start and end parameters.
Sep 9 2019
We have commissioned a Wikimedia login plugin for Discourse (via OAuth) T215052: Add MediaWiki login support to Discourse that is almost ready to be deployed on Wikimedia Space. The plugin does not attempt to read real name, but the authorization pop-up mentions real name. In addition to it being misleading, we have reason to believe this could be triggering for some users (many probably won't recall that they never provided a real name to Wikimedia).
Sep 3 2019
Thanks. In terms of making usernames uniform, even for those who used the Phabricator login method (and were allowed to create whatever username they'd like), would a good approach be to change the user's Discourse username to their Wikimedia username upon their first login with OAuth? (Sorry just dropped this here, may have been better for another related discussion but I figured I had your attention!)
@Tgr the developer has added a fix: "Prevent the realname property returned by wikimedia from being used in Discourse" and has also added additional text to the create account modal that allows anyone to input their realname/alternative name if they'd like.
Two questions from the Discourse developer pertaining to this:
With help from @hdothiduc , this should now be resolved.
Users should also be able to filter events by date and within a given date range.
Aug 30 2019
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Aug 22 2019
It's currently pulling from Rails format, which can be overridden in the admin interface. Have to figure out how to get only the desired information to appear.
Closing task as I think this note resolves it.
Okay, I think this makes sense. We will just need to publicize when closed groups/categories are electing their own moderatorship that the selected moderator will be bumped to a TL4 in order to give them all necessary tools for effective moderation, so that those nominating and electing understand the implications.
Aug 21 2019
Date text has been improved to MMM-D for easier reading in cases where M-D is not the norm. Working on shortening reference to local user's timezone. Option to remove mention of the timezone all together exists.
Aug 17 2019
The redirect is currently not working in Chrome, Safari or Firefox. Only the navigation bar is visible.
Jul 31 2019
Announcement text and other related content is being drafted here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TGphryWGrGHBbzZTYzrxwtWW0zmerHX8wZ2eqRKLmVc/edit?usp=sharing
Jul 24 2019
The initial round of work being commissioned for this task is:
Distribution is clear. I will plan to post a new topic about this within the few days (I have just made another big feedback ask on the forum so would like to wait a bit).
Jul 17 2019
Space and Discourse-MediaWiki TOU pages are now updated to reflect the verbiage and link approved by Legal.
Jul 16 2019
I am not entirely sure this should take precedence. Depending on what other requests we get, this may or may not fall in the package of 10 hours we've asked for. This is why I've left it in the backlog for now.
I believe this should have priority within the package of 10 additional hours we've requested in this upcoming contract. So, I'd say yes.