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[CatWatch] Find a unconfusing/specific way how to display CatWatch changes
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The current displaying of CatWatch items as regular edits on various places(*) is rather confusing as it looks like the regular edit.

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  • RecentChanges
  • WatchList
  • IRC feed
  • RCStream

Find a different way how to display CatWatch changes on various changes list. Logged activities have their own log action format, both on changes list as well as on IRC feed. CatWatch actions should have their own as well.

Based on the IRC chat:
A flag "C" (like !NMbD) was considered, but it would be only solution for IRC feed to distinguish CatWatch actions from regular edits, however it would not remove the mixing of CatWatch actions and regular edits on on-wiki changes lists.
Logbook won't work either since it would group all CatWatch actions to single one on enchanced RecentChanges/Watchlist, while the purpose is to see each category (but not single CatWatch actions in it) separately.
Thus some kind of third way should be found.

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Danny_B created this task.Feb 13 2016, 8:11 AM
Danny_B raised the priority of this task from to Medium.
Danny_B updated the task description. (Show Details)
Danny_B added projects: TCB-Team (now WMDE-TechWish), MediaWiki-Recent-changes, MediaWiki-Watchlist.
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Addshore added a comment.Feb 17 2016, 10:41 AM

On IRC feed it's totally impossible to distinguish if it was an edit or CatWatch action.

So it should be decided if we want these changes in IRC.
If we do perhaps we could add a flag so they can easily be seen.
The Wikidata changes for example do not show up on IRC.

They mix up with regular edits to such category.

This could probably be solved by making enhanced changes group changes by the type of change?

Danny_B mentioned this in T126849: [CatWatch] does not display number of changes in grouped edits on enhanced RecentChanges/Watchlist.Feb 17 2016, 11:01 AM
Danny_B added subtasks: T126428: [CatWatch] resets enhanced Recent Changes grouped bytecounter, T126849: [CatWatch] does not display number of changes in grouped edits on enhanced RecentChanges/Watchlist, T126854: [CatWatch] Non-existent categories displayed as existing.
Danny_B added a comment.Feb 17 2016, 11:06 AM
In T126851#2034748, @Addshore wrote:

On IRC feed it's totally impossible to distinguish if it was an edit or CatWatch action.

So it should be decided if we want these changes in IRC.
If we do perhaps we could add a flag so they can easily be seen.
The Wikidata changes for example do not show up on IRC.

I'd say we do. (typical usecase: watching additions to Category:Deleteme)

OTOH flag isn't the best solution. I'll try to come up with some format later on, now doing a research on it.

They mix up with regular edits to such category.

This could probably be solved by making enhanced changes group changes by the type of change?

I'd say not only enhanced, but also regular. It should not look like an edit to the category page, which currently does.

Tobi_WMDE_SW subscribed.Feb 17 2016, 1:55 PM
In T126851#2034785, @Danny_B wrote:
In T126851#2034748, @Addshore wrote:

On IRC feed it's totally impossible to distinguish if it was an edit or CatWatch action.

So it should be decided if we want these changes in IRC.
If we do perhaps we could add a flag so they can easily be seen.
The Wikidata changes for example do not show up on IRC.

I'd say we do. (typical usecase: watching additions to Category:Deleteme)

OTOH flag isn't the best solution. I'll try to come up with some format later on, now doing a research on it.

Created T127181 for this.

Addshore closed subtask T127181: [CatWatch] Make it easy to distinguish CatWatch changes on IRC as Invalid.Feb 18 2016, 8:29 PM
Danny_B reopened subtask T127181: [CatWatch] Make it easy to distinguish CatWatch changes on IRC as Open.Feb 18 2016, 9:15 PM
Addshore mentioned this in T127181: [CatWatch] Make it easy to distinguish CatWatch changes on IRC.Feb 23 2016, 9:52 AM
Addshore closed subtask T127181: [CatWatch] Make it easy to distinguish CatWatch changes on IRC as Invalid.
Addshore closed subtask T126428: [CatWatch] resets enhanced Recent Changes grouped bytecounter as Resolved.
Danny_B renamed this task from [CatWatch] Find a unconfusing way how to display CatWatch changes to [CatWatch] Find a unconfusing/specific way how to display CatWatch changes.Feb 23 2016, 12:34 PM
Danny_B added a subtask: T127360: [CatWatch] RC_CATEGORIZE events flood irc.wikimedia.org - indistinguisable from edits.
Danny_B reopened subtask T127181: [CatWatch] Make it easy to distinguish CatWatch changes on IRC as Open.Feb 23 2016, 12:50 PM
Tobi_WMDE_SW updated the task description. (Show Details)Feb 23 2016, 3:04 PM
Tobi_WMDE_SW closed subtask T126854: [CatWatch] Non-existent categories displayed as existing as Resolved.Feb 24 2016, 12:33 PM
Luke081515 added a project: CatWatch.Feb 24 2016, 7:23 PM
Krinkle closed subtask T127181: [CatWatch] Make it easy to distinguish CatWatch changes on IRC as Declined.Feb 29 2016, 3:23 PM
Krinkle removed a subtask: T127181: [CatWatch] Make it easy to distinguish CatWatch changes on IRC.
Tobi_WMDE_SW closed subtask T126849: [CatWatch] does not display number of changes in grouped edits on enhanced RecentChanges/Watchlist as Resolved.Mar 17 2016, 1:49 PM
Lea_WMDE moved this task from Incoming to Catgraph/Deepcat on the TCB-Team (now WMDE-TechWish) board.May 11 2016, 12:26 PM
Lea_WMDE moved this task from Catgraph/Deepcat to CatWatch on the TCB-Team (now WMDE-TechWish) board.
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