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Can't easily create redirect using menu options in 2017 Wikitext Editor
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Can not create redirect in 2017editor.

Visual editor works for articles. And in the visual editor, you can create a redirect (menu-parameters-page settings). But when you switch to editor2017, then the settings in the menu are inactive.

Redirections are very necessary in the editor2017. For pages where the visual editor does not work (namespaces wikipedia, project ...) by default opens editor2017, when you create a new page.

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Deskana renamed this task from Can not create redirect to Can't easily create redirect in 2017 Wikitext Editor.May 31 2017, 11:49 AM
Deskana renamed this task from Can't easily create redirect in 2017 Wikitext Editor to Can't easily create redirect using menu options in 2017 Wikitext Editor.May 31 2017, 11:54 AM

Page settings, which is where it would normally be in VisualEditor, is greyed out.

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If you type the correct wikitext, #REDIRECT [[Foo]], the redirect is created successfully.

Deskana triaged this task as Medium priority.May 31 2017, 3:55 PM

Editing definitely wants to enable these options for the 2017 Wikitext Editor at some stage, but right now it's nontrivial. We'll reevaluate that in the future. For now, you'll have to continue to use wikitext for these things, as you do in the current wikitext editor.

"as you do in the current wikitext editor" wikitext editor toolbar has a "redirect insert" button and picture,table insert button - only few people remember how to write a redirect manually

"as you do in the current wikitext editor" wikitext editor toolbar has a "redirect insert" button and picture,table insert button - only few people remember how to write a redirect manually

Maybe, maybe not. I've been an editor for a long time and never knew there was a redirect button in that toolbar. The truth is, both of us are guessing. :-)

Remember that #Redirect is localized… (That is stupid, but…)

Remember that #Redirect is localized… (That is stupid, but…)

That doesn't really change things. Without actual data, we are all guessing.

@Deskana I would propose user testing, but I've proposed this in more than 50 tasks here and it was never made for any of them actually.

@Deskana I would propose user testing, but I've proposed this in more than 50 tasks here and it was never made for any of them actually.

It's a good suggestion. The Foundation's resources for user testing are limited, but there are some. I'll see what I can do. No promises! In the mean time, I'd love it if you could email me editing-related things you think would benefit from user testing.

@Deskana Sure, I'll search through some older tasks, which are stalled because of the same problem (without actual data, all participants guessing). Do you mean editing-related in OWE mainly/only?

I would avoid loading full editor at all for this quick task. I would recommend to hide the option in editors as low as possible (backwards compatibility and maintenance work) and create a new menu entry next to "move" page button leading to simple OOUI input-button interface