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double check sco language names, update LocalNamesSco
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Following a problem in scowiki, the additions defined in T162406 are double-checked. The result is that the following changes in LocalNamesSco are needed:

Update:

  • from Bulgarian (bg): Bulgarie to bg - Bulgairien
  • from Spanish (es): Spaingie to es - Spainish
  • from Estonian (et): Estonie to et - Eastlands
  • from Hebrew (he): Ebreu to he - Ebrew
  • from Latvian (lv): Latvie to lv - Letts
  • from Norwegian (no): Norse to no - Norn
  • from Polish (pl): Pols to pl - Polls
  • from Romanian (ro): Romanie to ro - Roumains
  • from Slovenian (sl): Slovenie to sl - Slovein
  • from Albanian (sq): Albanie to sq - Albainien
  • from Swedish (sv): Swadish to sv - Swaidish
  • from Turkish (tr): Turkis to tr - Turkish
  • from Russian (ru): Roushie to ru "Roushien"

Delete (unless we find a way to double check them):

  • Bosnian (bs): Bosnie
  • Persian (fa): Persie
  • Armenian (hy): Armenie
  • Macedonian (mk): Macedonie
  • Serbian (sr): Serbie
  • Croatian (hr): Croatie

No change:

  • English (en): Inglis
  • Danish (da): Dens
  • Latin (la): Laitin
  • Scottish Gaelic (gd): Scots Gaelic

Likely unchanged:

  • Lithuanian (lt): Lithuanie

Event Timeline

Thanks to the input by Andrew Gray, here are the updates:

Update:

  • from Bulgarian (bg): Bulgarie to bg - Bulgairien
  • from Spanish (es): Spaingie to es - Spainish
  • from Estonian (et): Estonie to et - Eastlands
  • from Hebrew (he): Ebreu to he - Ebrew
  • from Latvian (lv): Latvie to lv - Letts
  • from Norwegian (no): Norse to no - Norn
  • from Polish (pl): Pols to pl - Polls
  • from Romanian (ro): Romanie to ro - Roumains
  • from Slovenian (sl): Slovenie to sl - Slovein
  • from Albanian (sq): Albanie to sq - Albainien
  • from Swedish (sv): Swadish to sv - Swaidish
  • from Turkish (tr): Turkis to tr - Turkish

Delete (unless we find a way to double check them):

  • Bosnian (bs): Bosnie
  • Persian (fa): Persie
  • Latin (la): Laitin
  • Armenian (hy): Armenie
  • Macedonian (mk): Macedonie
  • Serbian (sr): Serbie
  • Croatian (hr): Croatie

No change:

  • English (en): Inglis
  • Danish (da): Dens

Add:

  • (none)

Likely unchanged:

  • Lithuanian (lt): Lithuanie
  • Russian (ru): Roushie
  • Scottish Gaelic (gd): Scots Gaelic
Esc3300 set Due Date to Jul 4 2021, 12:00 AM.Jun 20 2021, 11:51 AM

LangcoM.

Looks good to me, I guess, although I am curious about the source. Do these appear in a dictionary?

LangcoM.

Looks good to me, I guess, although I am curious about the source. Do these appear in a dictionary?

Very few are in the shorter dictionary (I don't have access to the large one at the moment). The list is from the Scots Language Centre, though, and I think can be treated as reasonably authoritative.

A couple more to confirm - la is "Laitin" per the *Essential Scots Dictionary*; ru is "Roushien"; gd is "Scots Gaelic", both from the SLC list. So ru needs to change, la and gh can stay the same.

Do we have a list of *all* language codes with a sco translation? I'm happy to go through the rest of the list to check, I'm just not quite sure where to find it.

While it's good to have more review on language configuration, I'm actually not sure why is the Language committee mentioned here at all. I don't think there's a rule about it ;)

And I'm not sure why is Wikidata mentioned either.

If I understand correctly, T162406 is about CLDR. Ideally, all these changes should eventually be in upstream CLDR and not in local MediaWiki code.

@Raymond, @Nikerabbit, and @Nemo_bis can give much better CLDR guidance than I can.

While it's good to have more review on language configuration, I'm actually not sure why is the Language committee mentioned here at all. I don't think there's a rule about it ;)

Ok. One of its members was involved when these were first defined ( T162406), but I wont ask going forward. I will update T284915 as well.

And I'm not sure why is Wikidata mentioned either.

As for language codes, Wikidata seems to be the primary consumer for this (you know the wiki about interwikis!). Thus T162406 in the first place.

If I understand correctly, T162406 is about CLDR. Ideally, all these changes should eventually be in upstream CLDR and not in local MediaWiki code.

It's about LocalNamesSco.php only.

Esc3300 renamed this task from double check sco language names to double check sco language names, update LocalNamesSco.Jun 21 2021, 7:00 AM
Esc3300 triaged this task as Medium priority.
Esc3300 updated the task description. (Show Details)

Do we have a list of *all* language codes with a sco translation? I'm happy to go through the rest of the list to check, I'm just not quite sure where to find it.

It really depends how much of the interface at Wikidata you want to be translated into sco. The language names appear prominently on every item when using "?uselang=sco" or switching to "sco".

Esc3300 moved this task from incoming to ready to go on the Wikidata board.
Esc3300 changed Due Date from Jul 4 2021, 12:00 AM to Jun 28 2021, 12:00 AM.

If I understand correctly, T162406 is about CLDR. Ideally, all these changes should eventually be in upstream CLDR and not in local MediaWiki code.

It's about LocalNamesSco.php only.

Ideally these changes should be added to Cldr

Set the due date given the usual one week timeframe for patches.

@Esc3300: Patches themselves have no due dates - you (or someone else) write them when you have time, or you don't. Please do not set random Due Dates. Thanks.

Change 701661 had a related patch set uploaded (by Mbch331; author: Mbch331):

[mediawiki/extensions/cldr@master] Update several Scottish names for language codes

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/701661

Change 701661 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/extensions/cldr@master] Update several Scottish names for language codes

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/701661

@Aklapper apparently it's preferred not to use the Due Date feature, but please avoid writing things like "random Due Dates".

It's live. I checked most updates/deletions at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q22?uselang=sco

Thanks for your help.