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Add talk page bubble entry points to article view
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JTannerWMF
Dec 13 2021, 5:57 PM
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Description

Background
Based on our user testing research and consideration of designers across platforms, we are exploring a more exposed talk page entry point by way of a bubble and number of active discussions.

Task
When a user is not in Reading Focus mode, expose talk page bubble aligned right on LtR, and aligned left on RtL, with the active number of discussion subjects.

User Story
When editing Wikipedia on Android, I want an easily discoverable entry point for talk pages in the article view, so that I have a better idea if an edit I am going to make is likely being discussed on the talk page, or if I should start a new discussion as well as an easy place to click to navigate to the article talk page.

Mock

Custom_experience_02.png (1×720 px, 584 KB)

https://www.figma.com/file/kmcTXhmwkHNDgOyoCHbWKz/Android-Custom-Experience?node-id=97%3A4744

Dependency
@SNowick_WMF and @Sharvaniharan ensure the new entry point is instrumented


APK: https://github.com/wikimedia/apps-android-wikipedia/pull/3193

Event Timeline

JTannerWMF triaged this task as Medium priority.Dec 13 2021, 5:57 PM
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Note: To track usage we will add a value articleBubble to the source* column in schema MobileWikiAppTalk as discussed with @Sharvaniharan.

*"Source from where the user came into the Talk workflow. Can be any value from the InvokeSource enumeration."

A dependency ticket has been created. T298814. Move this ticket to Blocked/Waiting.

Moved this back to Blocked/Waiting since I cannot find the bubble icon in the CSS asset and that requires the PI team to add it and deploy to the server.

Moving this to Robin's column so he can reconsider placement

cooltey subscribed.

will provide more alternatives in the course of tomorrow – quickly dropping a screenshot from vector 2022 as inspiration here:

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https://di-page-navigation-paths.web.app/

Due to implementation constraints, I was asked to explore alternatives to the current talk page entry point in the article:

Option A) Completely remove the talk page button/icon from the article view. Why? After the introduction of toolbar customization in T296087 (see screenshot below), users can manually add a talk page entry point to their toolbar if they wish to do so. Related upcoming work: we can explore adding the talk page button/icon to a user’s toolbar when they select “Communicate with others” in the foreseen new onboarding experience (T301397).

Screenshot_20220706-145550.png (2×1 px, 1 MB)

  • Question: what happens to the side panel and its interaction (T299033)? Should we keep it or standardize it?

Option B) Along the lines of the latest explorations for Vector 2022 (aka Wikipedia desktop refresh), we could explore adding a new section that contains information about the last edit and active discussion below the article. Some explorations:

image.png (1×2 px, 1 MB)

  • Question: The actual content of the article would be pushed down even further with an additional line of “meta” information. Especially when articles have hatnotes (like polar bear). This means that some folks on smaller devices (or larger font size settings) won’t be able to see the beginnings of an article (“above the fold“). Is that a compromize we are willing to take?

Screenshot_20220706-150128.png (2×1 px, 1 MB)


Here’s the promised ping re: talk page entry point @JTannerWMF @Dbrant. Let me know what you think. My recommendation is Option A.

Per discussion in Android team time, we’re putting this on hold for now, but:

  • We will closely monitor data and engagement after the updates to talk pages and toolbar customization
  • We will likely pick it up again if A) the bubble can be implemented properly or B) when the web team released updates related to talk page entry points to Vector 2022

Unfortunately, the issues with the bubble isn't feasible technically. We considered another prominent entry point but based on all of the moving parts we will deprioritize further work on this and monitor the outcomes of entry point changes to talk pages on mobile from Editing and the Web team. Based on their learnings we will revisit.