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Analyze initial permalink usage
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Description

T302011 introduces permalinks on wikitext talk pags. This ticket involves the work of learning how people have been using them to date.

Decisions to be make

- [ ] Will we prioritize making permalinks more discoverable at this time?

  • At this point in time, I think this ticket is borne more from curiosity than a specific decisions we're going to make.

Research questions

  1. Of the people who have published at least one edit to a talk page since permalinks were enabled:
    1. What percentage of people have tried generating a permalink, broken out by experience level?
    2. How many people have tried generating a permalink at least once, broken out by experience level?
  2. How many times do permalinks appear within wikis?

Metrics

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Event Timeline

Will we prioritize making permalinks more discoverable at this time?

How would we make them more discoverable?

How many times have people shared a permalink to a wikitext comment or topic?

What does "shared" mean? Generated the link we can track, but not so much where they are published...

MNeisler triaged this task as Medium priority.
MNeisler moved this task from Triage to Upcoming Quarter on the Product-Analytics board.

Will we prioritize making permalinks more discoverable at this time?

How would we make them more discoverable?

For example by using a more noticeable (although at the same time more annoying) link color, or putting it in a menu (T338534).

My initial thought here is that generating permalinks is more something that experienced editors do than newcomers, so it's not the end of the world if the feature isn't all that discoverable. It's the sort of thing that, if someone sticks around, they'll eventually figure it out by the time they need to use it.

Will we prioritize making permalinks more discoverable at this time?

How would we make them more discoverable?

For example by using a more noticeable (although at the same time more annoying) link color, or putting it in a menu (T338534).

What you described is precisely what I had in mind...thank you for adding this context, @Tacsipacsi.

How many times have people shared a permalink to a wikitext comment or topic?

What does "shared" mean? Generated the link we can track, but not so much where they are published...

Per what @Esanders shared offline today, it sounds like tracking how often links are shared isn't feasible at the moment.

In lieu of the above, we're going to see if there's a scalable way of what Ed demonstrated in T359182#9601493: tracking when a permalink to a wikitext talk page comment/topic is published.

My initial thought here is that generating permalinks is more something that experienced editors do than newcomers, so it's not the end of the world if the feature isn't all that discoverable. It's the sort of thing that, if someone sticks around, they'll eventually figure it out by the time they need to use it.

Thank you for adding this perspective, @Sdkb. [i]

While I do think there is long-term value in people across experience levels knowing they can generate links to comments/topics, I agree with you in thinking that, for now, we can wait and see how people receive the current implementation.


i. You doing so was the prompt I needed to update the task description to include breakdowns of who is generating permalinks by experience level.