This is not the place to propose a new project: this is the place where we could assign responsibilities once there is a consensus to make a new project. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_projects to propose a new project.

Both should be closed. Funwormguy1245, this is not a bug.

Both should be closed. Funwormguy1245, this is not a bug.

If you'll see above c. 2020-03-03, this is mostly a matter of doing things like storing interwiki links and making Wikidata-powered infoboxes, not having locally stored databases at Wikispore.

Was this project approved on Meta?

Is this a proposal for a new project? If so, that goes on Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_projects

Made the following because this hasn't been resolved yet: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T298406

Just noting that I had a lot of trouble uploading a large file: y2commons didn't work, ChunkedUpload didn't work, publishing from my stash didn't work (a half-dozen times), and one last try at ChunkedUpload/stash failed so badly that the special page for my stash wouldn't load. I have no clue what is up. Another user helped me by uploading the file to en.wp but it needs to be ported over to Commons and overwrite the malformed version there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:David_Pakman_talks_to_Rebel_Wisdom_about_politics_and_media.webm

In T274495#6822572, @Aklapper wrote:

This conversation reminds me of discussing the "Export to Excel" button in upstream Phab code in the past - basically https://secure.phabricator.com/T5908#72402.

In T274495#6822569, @Xover wrote:

In T274495#6822475, @Koavf wrote:

In T274495#6822466, @Xover wrote:

Absent specific proposals for better wording

I gave a proposal.

Indeed. But it was [not] specific

In T274495#6822466, @Xover wrote:

Absent specific proposals for better wording

In T274495#6822467, @Billinghurst wrote:

In T274495#6822445, @Koavf wrote:

In T274495#6822219, @Billinghurst wrote:

But it is for Kindles. We want to make things as easy as possible for those who just want to download. I reckon just leave it.

There are many devices from many manufacturers that can process this content. Instead of giving an advertisement for a Big Tech abuser, just make it generic. If you have one of their proprietary jails, you know which file types it uses.

Please leave your prejudices at the door.

In T274495#6822219, @Billinghurst wrote:

But it is for Kindles. We want to make things as easy as possible for those who just want to download. I reckon just leave it.

In T274495#6822179, @Aklapper wrote:

Hi, what is this about specifically? (Please describe what you expect and what happens instead and be specific to avoid misunderstandings.)
./i18n/en.json: "format-mobi": "MOBI (for Kindles)" ? Something else? Thanks. :)

Oh, and thanks, J!

Do I need to remake this ticket every December 31 or will it auto-update? I'm willing to make a calendar reminder for myself.

What third-party website? Can MediaWiki servers not locally host fonts?

Let me add to the chorus here: the default on many systems is Comic Sans which is far from ideal. Is this more difficult than simply editing the local MediaWiki.css?

Wow, I didn't realize that this has been sitting around for 6.5 years but it hasn't been deployed to any WMF wiki yet... Hm.

<del>"Import from Incubator" is checked but there are many files that are not ported over from mul.ws and that will fundamentally break the scans. (That's in addition to user pages, templates, modules, etc.)</del>

Generating thumbnails and serving up content in MediaWiki as AVIF images. My goal is to be able to use AVIF images in the exact same way as JPEG and PNG.

I did read it. My point is that I only read it *after* someone pointed out its scope. The vague title does not make it clear what the bug is actually *about* which I would think on first blush was a totally different issue related to the rebranding controversy. Hence, I am asking if someone can make a more descriptive title that actually gives a hint as to what the content is of this bug in particular.

In T254646#6262865, @Reedy wrote:

In T254646#6262863, @Koavf wrote:

I made a duplicate of this task because I searched for titles about "blacklist" or race and didn't find this. Can we get a more descriptive name for this bug? On first glance, I would think this was about the 2030 rebranding if anything.

There's plenty of tasks with "blacklist" in the title...

I made a duplicate of this task because I searched for titles about "blacklist" or race and didn't find this. Can we get a more descriptive name for this bug? On first glance, I would think this was about the 2030 rebranding if anything.

Agreed: minus should be used, not hyphen-minus. I was just clarifying for others who can't obviously tell which figure is in the infobox.

To be clear, the infobox Doc just mentioned uses < - >, which is the hyphen-minus character: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyphen-minus rather than < − >, the minus sign: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_and_minus_signs#Minus_sign

Appears resolved. Can others help document at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incident_documentation/20200412-eqiad_down

Is this why Wikidata-related modules and links in the toolbox are not working at en.wp?

In T247203#5952250, @Aklapper wrote:

Please clarify which specific code hosting you mean when writing "Move all code hosting from GitHub". Or how this relates to Wikimedia Gerrit / Git.

To be clear, this request would allow us to still have standard running text MediaWiki pages on Wikispore and not convert it into a Wikidata-style database, correct?

Additional functionality that is related: confirming email does not work (the site claims that it sends a confirmation but it doesn't) and consequently getting email updates from one's watchlist.

This is not urgent/break now but it's pretty important for maintenance on several wikis and has evidently been broken for four or five months.

I can confirm that this is impacting many projects. E.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WantedPages and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WantedPages and https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:WantedPages haven't been updated since 2019-11-25 and the latter two claim that they will be updated every two weeks or so (en.wp has a huge warning that it's rarely updated).

I don't want the error.

I have an account to rename there as well. I hope that SUL can resolve this.

Why is something that is so straightforward and so critical take so long?

I do use it but by having be an opt-in gadget rather than the standard, we run the risk of losing editors, as mentioned above.

In T228594#5753548, @Xover wrote:

@Koavf It's not that simple. Hit me up on my enWS user talk page if you want the nitty gritty details. The short version is that Phe's OCR gadget (which is what this task is about, and which is what I assume you mean by the "default") is based on Tesseract, but that's not where the problem is: it's somewhere in the custom code Phe has written to provide the interface to Tesseract or its interaction with the server infrastructure on Toolforge.

Fixing problems like this and maintaining tools is difficult. In this particular case, there is a very straightforward quick fix, which is to use Tesseract's OCR tool and replace the default one. It works very well and is not broken. I'm not sure if the developers are busy or are trying to make the perfect the enemy of the good or what but a really easy way to resolve this in (what I assume as someone who is not a Wikimedia developer) five minutes is to drag and drop Tesseract's tool into some folder on some server and overwrite the standard OCR that no longer works. Long-term solutions are good, the development team's time and expertise are precious, and protracted bugs that just end up with a lot of talking about talking don't help anyone, so this seems like the best solution but I'm willing to admit my own ignorance if someone can come up with a better solution.

In T228594#5749655, @Pols12 wrote:

Aklapper had already pointed above a MediaWiki.org link which explains how the Phabricator priority system work: mw:Phabricator/Project_management#Setting_task_priorities.

Phabricator is a tool which allows developers to organize openly their work. They do not have to manage community here. You probably may engage discussions on Meta or on your wiki village pump, eventually pinging a Community Liaisons member to express your priority wishes.

At the risk of sounding condescending, this *is* fundamental to Wikisource. While some sources are digital-native, the majority of what Wikisource is is transcription of print sources and that is impossible without the ProofreadPage which relies on an OCR scan to reduce easily between 30 and 90% of the workload, depending on the source. Again, if what you need is a quick fix to descalate this, just make the Tesseract OCR scan the actual tool in Wikisource and we can sort out the details of a best practice later. This needs to be fixed ASAP.

In T228594#5747256, @Jdforrester-WMF wrote:

This does not meet the criteria for UBN. Please do not abuse the prioity system.

Correct: we need both standard modules and templates included without having to remake them or import every revision over and over again, plus we want to include some content in form of actual pages from other wikis like Meta.

Yes, I meant outreach.wikimedia.org.

I object to deletion: as long as we still own the domain names (that is, "we" being the WMF, not us personally), URIs should stay active and point to something meaningful. The only thing we ever should have outright deleted was the Siberian Wikipedia.

I escalated the priority: this is fundamental to how Wikisource operates. If we want to replace this with Tesseract as a solution, that's fine--just do so for all users.

Agreed. Not sure whom I can personally thank for this after waiting so long for (e.g.) nap.ws but thanks to whomever it is that is doing all this valuable work.

I escalated the status--this is pretty vital to how ru.wn functions.

In T218155#5051940, @jayantanth wrote:

Just one small clarification wgTranslateNumerals = by 'default' => true, so during importing content from mul.wikisource, all Page: namespace need to be convert Indic Hindi numerical , like https://wikisource.org/wiki/Page:कपालकुण्डला.djvu/3 should https://hi.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:कपालकुण्डला.djvu/३ at new domain.

I changed the status: this is a critical part of en.ws.

Is it any trickier than it was five years ago? It seems like making new wikis is a lot harder than it was. Is there some kind of structural problem here? We've had some non-standard names to be changed (like roa-rup.wp or zh* Wikipedias at T10217) for years and years.

nap.ws is being imported as I post this.

Odd.

In T229624#5386780, @Varnent wrote:

I see a Facebook icon with a share link which - as explained by others - does not share data about site visitors until people click the link and share on their Facebook profile. I do not see a Facebook button that does what you are describing nor can I find any code which would allow for one to be displayed.

If there is a button which is calling back to Facebook - what steps are you taking for it to appear and can you provide a screenshot?

Thanks. Not sure how you don't see a Facebook button on that blog post but it's there.

In T229624#5386341, @Aklapper wrote:

@Koavf: By imagining that you do not sit in front of your computer and try to tell someone what exactly they need to do to also see what you think is a problem.

I have a dozen or so blocking extensions and Facebook Container blocks it.

Sounds like a bug.

Re: Wikitravel: Don't compare their custom HTML homepage in English. Compare (e.g.) https://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Western_Sahara and https://wikitravel.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Western_Sahara&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile, which does work.

I'm still not clear on why *deletion* is necessary. Just leave the domain and unlock if we want more tests later. Unlocking a wiki is easier than setting up a new domain.

Sorry. It looks like it has been done, actually--I forgot. This is all over with and fixed. Thank you, Reedy.

Maybe this will help you? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Video2commons#Uploading_errors--I_need_help