The default alias for namespace 828 is "模块:" now. With reference with the other namespaces on zh.wikipedia, please modify the default alias of namespace 828 into "Module:". Moreover, it is "模組:" for traditional Chinese (zh-Hant & zh-TW & zh-HK & zh-MO) and "模块:" for simplified Chinese (zh-Hans & zh-CN & zh-SG). Please modify them accordingly. Thank you.
BTW, please also check that whether this bug existed in the MediaWiki program provided from MediaWiki.org
| Status | Subtype | Assigned | Task | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| In Progress | Winston_Sung | T286291 Clean up, merge and update zh/zh-* translations | |||
| Resolved | Winston_Sung | T298308 Clean up zh/zh-* namespace aliases in operations/mediawiki-config /wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php | |||
| Resolved | Winston_Sung | T286105 Update zh namespace names and adding namespace aliases in Scribunto | |||
| Resolved | VulpesVulpes825 | T165593 Modification of the default alias for namespace 828 "模块:" of Zh Projects |
The URL is still using "模块:", e.g. https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%A8%A1%E5%9D%97:Foo
Also, this doesn't seem to be easy, as any possible patches/assigns could accidentally break e.g. $wgNamespacesWithSubpages and $wgNamespaceContentModels.
Maybe this needs more long discussions, as in most languages namespaces are really translated.
Any update on this? It's kind of inconsistent that all other namespaces are using English while this one is in zh.
Have you had any opportunity to look into the code?
AFAIK, this is not an issue with wmf-config, but rather the defaults set in MediaWiki for all zh projects.
The issue seems to be located at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto/+/refs/heads/master/Scribunto.namespaces.php
which is independently translated outside of mediawiki-core
Set $wgExtraNamespaces[828] = 'Module'; seems to solve this problem.
Manual:$wgExtraNamespaces: It can also be used to rename the default namespaces.
Sounds like a good fix, do you want to work on it?
Do you think it is possible to make that default for all zh-language wiki?
From a technical perspective, it is quite difficult to deal with non-translated prefix mixed with translated prefix. I feel these issues are best dealt within site configuration, instead of hard-coded in extension whenever possible. This is probably up to MediaWiki-extensions-Scribunto, as this particular case is a change in that extension, rather than a change in our wmf-config. It would be best if we can move that localization setting to wmf-config instead of relying on the translations within the extension.
see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki/browse/master/languages/messages/MessagesZh.php for existing practice for mediawiki-core, extension should follow these practices, otherwise it could cause confusion.
Today I edited wikipedia, and I found the namespace is still Chinese 模块 while others English like Template.
@Sanmosa, it is only one day since the open of the discussion. It will be best to wait a little bit longer for the discussion, such as one week, for side configuration request.
Change 606768 had a related patch set uploaded (by VulpesVulpes825; owner: VulpesVulpes825):
[mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto@master] Modification of Scribunto alias for Zhwiki
Change 606769 had a related patch set uploaded (by VulpesVulpes825; owner: VulpesVulpes825):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Add zh-hans and zh-hant translation of Module and Module_talk aliases for all Zh Projects
Change 606768 abandoned by VulpesVulpes825:
Modification of Scribunto alias for Zh Project
Reason:
Additional changes on Path 606769 should eliminate the need to make the change on extension side.
Change 606769 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Add zh-hans and zh-hant translation of Module and Module_talk aliases for all Zh Projects
Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2020-06-22T11:24:16Z] <urbanecm@deploy1001> Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: db952ba: Add zh-hans and zh-hant translation of Module and Module_talk aliases for all Zh Projects (T165593) (duration: 00m 56s)
Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2020-06-22T11:29:01Z] <Urbanecm> Run namespaceDupes.php for zh* projects (T165593)
Change 702950 had a related patch set uploaded (by Aklapper; author: Winston Sung):
[mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto@master] Update zh namespace names and adding namespace aliases in Scribunto
Change 702950 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto@master] Update zh/zh-* namespace names and adding namespace aliases in Scribunto
Change 747912 had a related patch set uploaded (by Winston Sung; author: Winston Sung):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Revert \"Add zh-hans and zh-hant translation of Module and Module_talk aliases\" for Ib083a8ff042daa9bdd30d6a1e8c34f85b500fc12
Change 747913 had a related patch set uploaded (by Winston Sung; author: Winston Sung):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Revert \"Add zh-hans and zh-hant translation of Module and Module_talk aliases\" for Ib083a8ff042daa9bdd30d6a1e8c34f85b500fc12
Change 747912 abandoned by Winston Sung:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Revert \"Add zh-hans and zh-hant translation of Module and Module_talk aliases\" for Ib083a8ff042daa9bdd30d6a1e8c34f85b500fc12
Reason:
Change 747912 restored by Winston Sung:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Revert \"Add zh-hans and zh-hant translation of Module and Module_talk aliases\" for Ib083a8ff042daa9bdd30d6a1e8c34f85b500fc12
Change 747913 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Revert "Add zh-hans and zh-hant translation of Module and Module_talk aliases"
Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2022-04-06T08:09:55Z] <kharlan@deploy1002> Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: Config: [[gerrit:747913|Revert "Add zh-hans and zh-hant translation of Module and Module_talk aliases" (T286291 T298308 T165593 T286105)]] (duration: 00m 56s)
Change 791503 had a related patch set uploaded (by Winston Sung; author: Winston Sung):
[mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto@REL1_36] Update zh/zh-* namespace names and adding namespace aliases in Scribunto
Change 791504 had a related patch set uploaded (by Winston Sung; author: Winston Sung):
[mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto@REL1_37] Update zh/zh-* namespace names and adding namespace aliases in Scribunto
Change 791504 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto@REL1_37] Update zh/zh-* namespace names and adding namespace aliases in Scribunto
Change 791503 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/extensions/Scribunto@REL1_36] Update zh/zh-* namespace names and adding namespace aliases in Scribunto