@patilise: As Community-Relations-Support was added to this task, what is wanted from them? Thanks for elaborating!

@Aklapper: Please find the following.

Problem: We encountered a few requests during discussion of enabling citoid on Japanese Wikipedia. As listed in the description, in the order of priority, the requests are (1) To change citoid such that it is possible to output Japanese author names and titles; (2) Allow mapping to different templates according to language of the source; (3) Return NAID and NCID for Cinii sources.

Measure of success: Obviously, enabling citoid on Japanese Wikipedia is the end goal. But we want the quality of citations from citoid to be as high as possible. With the end goal in mind, my opinion is that (1) and (2) might be a blocker for enabling citoid in Japanese Wikipedia while (3) will not be. From CL perspective, the help needed is more on how we could get the development work on these items prioritized.

Timeline: We kickstarted the discussion on 4 March. There is no hard deadline but we do not want this to be dangling forever. I believe we at least want a timeline of when these will be implemented.

@patilise

Thank you for opening the ticket! Unfortunately all of them likely require some extra development.

The issues that can most easily be addressed on our end are 1 and 3. These can both be done with some extra development to citoid. (likely not Zotero for 3, because they are slow to change their data model) but we can add those fields in citoid instead. If citoid were enabled in jp we could add these features. However, it would probably take some time.

Issue 2 is not as easily addressed on our end. The configuration message is in JSON and it is not equipped to do complicated logic. So the community would have to choose either {{Cite book}} or {{Cite book ja-jp}}. However, {{Cite book|1=和書}}) is promising because it means the behaviour of cite book can be corrected to work for Japanese books. We do return the language code for books (i.e. ja or ja-jp depending on the source). If {{Cite book}} does (or can be fixed) to correctly render book citations with {{Cite book|lang=ja-JP}} and {{Cite book|lang=ja}} this would correct the problem. Does {{Cite book|lang=ja}} work?

@Mvolz: Thanks! I will bring the suggestion regarding Issue 2 back to the discussion and seek for opinion. We will also confirm whether we could enable citoid first, while waiting for Issues 1 and 3 to be implemented.

The only support that the CLs team can provide with Citoid is through documentation, available at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Citoid/Enabling_Citoid_on_your_wiki , and in making devs, in this case Mvolz, aware that help is needed. Thanks.

@Mvolz: We have not received any objections so far regarding the change in Issue 2, as well as enabling citoid before Issues 1 and 3 are implemented. Nevertheless, we still need to know when we can expect the implementation - is there any timeline currently?

@Elitre and @Aklapper, thank you very much for your help.

@Mvolz: Citoid is now enabled in Japanese Wikipedia. Do we know what is the plan for resolving issues 1 and 3?

In T189485#4095255, @patilise wrote:

@Mvolz: Citoid is now enabled in Japanese Wikipedia. Do we know what is the plan for resolving issues 1 and 3?

I've created two separate tasks for them:

T192527
T192528

They can be tracked there.