T203941: Allow watchlist notifications to be delivered as web notification (through Echo) is resolved, so this is ready to be deployed to production wikis.
TBD: A deployment and communication plan around that.
Community Wishlist Survey 2023/On-wiki notifications for the Watchlist or subscriptions per page
| Status | Subtype | Assigned | Task | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Resolved | None | T311850 [Epic] FY 2022-23 Growth Maintenance Work | |||
| Open | None | T309855 Deploy WatchlistNotifications feature to production wikis | |||
| Resolved | Feature | kostajh | T203941 Allow watchlist notifications to be delivered as web notification (through Echo) | ||
| Open | None | T309839 Echo web watchlist notifications should not include Flow or DiscussionTools |
Moving User-notice from subtask. The following language was used in the previous attempt to deploy this to tech news:
You will have new Notification preferences available for "<tvar name="watchlist">{{int:echo-category-title-watchlist}}</tvar>" and "<tvar name="minoredit">{{int:echo-category-title-minor-watchlist}}</tvar>". You will now be able to choose to receive these notifications in any of: email, on-wiki, or in the apps. This change also relocates those preferences from the "<tvar name="user">{{int:prefs-personal}}</tvar>" tab to the "<tvar name="notifs">{{int:prefs-echo}}</tvar>" tab.</translate> [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T203941]
Taking out of the current sprint for now so we can focus on Growth-Positive-Reinforcement work. We'll come back to this one.
@KStoller-WMF it would be great to see this deployed some day. There is not a lot of work left to do on it, AFAICT.
@kostajh T309839: Echo web watchlist notifications should not include Flow or DiscussionTools is likely a blocker, correct?
OK, thanks!
I'll chat with the team about this and see if this is something we can squeeze in.
Now that Flow is being undeployed, maybe T309839: Echo web watchlist notifications should not include Flow or DiscussionTools is a little easier. It would be really nice to ship this feature, someday.
At the moment there is no way to get notifications for bot-made edits on watchlisted pages because such email notifications have been disabled. See T379149.
In this context, as mentioned in T379149#11608829, would it make sense to try and resolve this task to provide at least one way to get notifications on-wiki for such watchlisted edits? Thanks!
It is still possible to get on-wiki notifications – on Special:Watchlist. Emails about Echo watchlist notifications would likely quickly get disabled, since the problem leading to T356984 was not the exact format, but the amount, which is no better with Echo.
It is still possible to get on-wiki notifications – on Special:Watchlist.
Sure, but this is not as visible as my alerts and my notices at the top of the page.
Emails about Echo watchlist notifications would likely quickly get disabled, since the problem leading to T356984 was not the exact format, but the amount, which is no better with Echo.
I had understood the original reason why email notifications for bot edits were blocked was because they were emails, not just because of the amount. According to @Urbanecm_WMF comment here:
In 2024, due to the high volume of outgoing Wikimedia mail, major e-mail providers (such as Gmail) temporarily stopped accepting all Wikimedia mail, which was deemed to be a major outage, as it was impacting any and all of our mail. To avoid that breakage, emails for bot-made actions were disabled
Just confirming that I chatted with Amir last week and he said that from a performance perspective Echo notifications should be fine, provided email remains off the table.
It seems like T309839 is the remaining known blocker, as we wouldn't want to send a watchlist page-edit notification if DiscussionTools is going to notify you about the exact same edit because you're subscribed.