Proposal: Technically inclined community members seeking to contribute to improve the editing experience for themselves or their communities (/cc @He7d3r)

(Or am I mistaking the intended purpose dev.wikimedia.org?)

Hi waldir!

In T92941#1125978, @waldyrious wrote:

Proposal: Technically inclined community members seeking to contribute to improve the editing experience for themselves or their communities (/cc @He7d3r)

That sounds like users of our existing documentation on mediawiki.org.

(Or am I mistaking the intended purpose dev.wikimedia.org?)

Yes, but you're not alone :-)

We are creating documentation for a different audience: third parties we want to encourage to access Wikimedia's data sets and experiment with our APIs. The effort will benefit documentation used by all kinds of developers, but we have to focus, hence Personas

(I want to scrap the term "dev.wikimedia.org" because it encourages people to project whatever they want onto it.)

@Qgil, thanks! these sound about right. Ankita = MW web API user, Alberto = Wikidata API user, Reetta = probably a bot and maybe tool labs user, and Yanhui = a data set consumer. Reetta the Bot user needs some understanding of MW concepts but will be using the bot's API rather than MW APIs. I don't know anything about Yanhui yet.

Do you have their e-mail addresses so I can fulfill T93048: Gather needs of WMF teams, Wikimedia contributors, and third-party developers for Data and developer hub ?

@waldyrious, I'm very happy to see you here, almost in persona. ;)
From https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Dev.wikimedia.org,

dev.wikimedia.org aims to become a hub for developers and researchers interested in Wikimedia data and the APIs to interact with it.

In T92941#1127823, @Spage wrote:

(I want to scrap the term "dev.wikimedia.org" because it encourages people to project whatever they want onto it.)

(It has been the same for whatever other combination we have tried before, so unless you find a magical string, I would just keep insisting on "dev.wikimedia.org".

Making all personas happy at the same time is not easy, we can start with Ankita and Alberto. I can talk more about Reetta if needed. @DarTar knows Yanhui very well. :)

In T92941#1127823, @Spage wrote:

In T92941#1125978, @waldyrious wrote:

Proposal: Technically inclined community members seeking to contribute to improve the editing experience for themselves or their communities (/cc @He7d3r)

That sounds like users of our existing documentation on mediawiki.org.

Which serves that role sub-optimally, IMO. But I won't expand on this as it's off-topic. :)

In T92941#1128080, @Qgil wrote:

In T92941#1127823, @Spage wrote:

(I want to scrap the term "dev.wikimedia.org" because it encourages people to project whatever they want onto it.)

(It has been the same for whatever other combination we have tried before, so unless you find a magical string, I would just keep insisting on "dev.wikimedia.org".

Here's hoping that we can eventually find a better term. I'm aware of the past unfruitful discussions (though not of their entire contents), but still feel uneasy that the term "dev" is being used to mean something different than what I believe is its immediate association. Out of the top of my head, has something like devdata.wikimedia.org or data-apis.wikimedia.org been considered? If not, would they make sense? I'm not suggesting we change things at this point, just trying to see if we are aligned at the same page in our understanding of this project's aim.

Let's focus on personas here. If you want to discuss the name, please go to T309: Name for the 'developer hub'.

This is helpful, I'm not sure whether to declare victory.

We seem to be happy with our four personas. Just document them (copy & paste the description) in our working plan at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Dev.wikimedia.org and you can resolve this task.

This task was part of ECT-March-2015, and it is still open and assigned. Assuming that it belongs to ECT-April-2015 as well. Otherwise please edit accordingly.