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There are often templates that link to whois-pages to make access to IP-related information easy. However, there are many, many providers for a whois-service and each one is different (with ads, without ads, different layouts, etc.). If you have a wiki, where anonymous users can make edits which are saved under their IP address, then whois is a basic tool in the wiki, and should imho be provided (perhaps through an extension?).
Pros are: The user doesn't have to leave the site; fair and equal way to resolve this matter; no ugly external links that may require the user to enter Captchas.


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Severity: enhancement

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bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Low.Nov 21 2014, 10:17 PM
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Tobias created this task.Oct 22 2008, 2:40 PM

user60194220 wrote:

The given Website ping.eu at the german wikipedia is not useable without ECMAScript/Javascript please fix that, maybe an solution would be whois.wikimedia.org which does that all for us, or randomly links to different whois services.

Changing to extension request.

Somewhat related from the admin tools backlog: "Integrate bits.wikimedia.org/geoiplookup into Admin Tools, e.g. CheckUser, so that users do not have to use a third party tool"

Legoktm added a subscriber: awight.Jul 18 2015, 6:57 PM

https://github.com/maxmind/GeoIP2-php is a PHP library that allows reading from a maxmind database.

Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. · View Herald TranscriptJul 18 2015, 6:57 PM

Noting here that fundraising has a few extensions still using the default PHP GeoIP library, which I see has been deprecated. We should be considering GeoIP2 as well.

Huji added a subscriber: Huji.Sep 5 2017, 9:48 PM

We already have a Special page that exposes a user's IP address information, of course: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version. It's just not very visible information given the HTML:

<!-- visited from 70.123.70.141 -->
<span style='display:none'>visited from 70.123.70.141</span>
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Huji added a comment.Feb 24 2018, 8:33 PM

That is irrelevant, as it only shows your own IP to you, and only shows the IP without any additional info.

What do you think this task is proposing? A whois service operated by Wikimedia Foundation Inc.? Or a Special page in a MediaWiki extension or in MediaWiki core that queries other whois services? Or some combination of the two?

It's not clear to me that we want to continue investing resources into a system that uses IP addresses as identifiers for users who are not logged in.

awight removed a subscriber: awight.Mar 21 2019, 4:01 PM

Would https://tools.wmflabs.org/whois be a good solution to the point about different sites being used as mentioned in the task description?

Huji added a comment.Apr 14 2020, 12:44 PM

I think so.

But note that from the perspective of the task, that would be considered a workaround, not a solution.

Put another way: read the task as if you are running a non-WMF. Do you want to rely on an external WHOIS website (may it be the tools.wmflabs.org one, or any other one) or would you rather have an in-wiki WHOIS functionality? The task is arguing for the latter.

Whoops, I meant to say it was a workaround, not a solution, in my previous message, but yeah, I wouldn't expect a non WMF wiki to use an external site that they didn't choose.