Hello @jrbs. Can you please create the election at votewiki and make @Tks4Fish and @Stanglavine (and myself too) election admins? The nomination starts on Oct 11.

Hi there, I can do this, but I don't think this timeline will work. The Movement Charter Drafting Committee (MCDC) elections vote runs until October 25, and we will also need to tally these results after the fact, so I don't think the interface can be changed to Farsi until after that is completed. Otherwise I can start to get things set up for this election, but the voting definitely cannot start on October 22 as proposed here (sorry!).

I'm adding @Keegan and @Kaarel_Vaidla, both supporting the MCDC elections, for their information about the timeline of this one.

@jrbs So the timeline must be delayed at least for one week I think. Or more?

@jrbs Okay, I think we can postpone the election for one week, but not more because there will be conflicts with the 2021 English Wikipedia ArbCom elections. We can change the interface language on 27 October 18:00 UTC (I'll do that myself). The voting period will start 29 October. I don't think you need the VoteWiki interface to be in English to tally the results. Are you okay with this timetable?

@4nn1l2 will the tally method be set to Schulze or Meek?

@Huji, Schulze. We don't have any consensus to do it with Meek. And SecurePoll is still not ready for performing our elections where we need two reserves. Please see T288185. While I could easily rank all the candidates in the Foundation's latest elections, but this is not always the case, and we can't risk using Meek at the moment.

In T292685#7411430, @MahdySaffar wrote:

@jrbs So the timeline must be delayed at least for one week I think. Or more?

In T292685#7412256, @4nn1l2 wrote:

@jrbs Okay, I think we can postpone the election for one week, but not more because there will be conflicts with the 2021 English Wikipedia ArbCom elections. We can change the interface language on 27 October 18:00 UTC (I'll do that myself). The voting period will start 29 October. I don't think you need the VoteWiki interface to be in English to tally the results. Are you okay with this timetable?

The biggest issue will be making sure there's enough time to scrutinise and tally the MCDC votes. Ideally this would be done while votewiki is in English. I am not sure if two days is enough to tally a global election (this will be the first time we've done an MCDC election so I don't know how many votes to expect).

Let me run this by the organisers and get back to you as soon as we can.

Update: I spoke with the team and we agree that October 27 will be enough time. You can absolutely revise as you need but something like this would work for us:

• Oct 11 - Oct 17: Nominations (can be the same or shifted, up to you of course)
• Oct 25 - Oct 28: Election setup (with Oct 27 date for language change)
• Oct 29 - Nov 11: Voting period
• Nov 12 - Nov 16: Tallying period

I have updated the timeline and each step is delayed one week; thanks to @jrbs. So we have:

• Oct 18 - Oct 24: Nominations
• Oct 25 - Oct 28: Election setup (with Oct 27 date for language change)
• Oct 29 - Nov 11: Voting period
• Nov 12 - Nov 16: Tallying period

@jrbs Now please create the election, and I will import the list of eleigible voters.

In T292685#7453301, @MahdySaffar wrote:

@jrbs Now please create the election, and I will import the list of eleigible voters.

All done, thanks.

Change 734451 had a related patch set uploaded (by 4nn1l2; author: 4nn1l2):

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Temporarily change the votewiki lang to fa

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/734451

Changing votewiki language to Farsi was scheduled for UTC evening backport window, 18:00, Wednesday, October 27.

Change 734451 merged by jenkins-bot:

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Temporarily change the votewiki lang to fa

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/734451

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2021-10-27T18:10:43Z] <catrope@deploy1002> Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: Config: [[gerrit:734451|Temporarily change the votewiki lang to fa (T292685)]] (duration: 01m 04s)

@Tks4Fish and @Stanglavine: some users have expressed concerned about their votes being struck out. Note that I am not talking about votes that SecurePoll automatically strikes out if the user votes again; I am talking about situations like the vote by Darafsh or the second vote by 4nn1l2.

I am a CU on fawiki. I am assuming these votes were manually struck out, and assuming it was either because you deemed them as socks or as votes recorded while using a proxy/TOR. What is the best way to communicate with you about the details of it? Private task on Phab? Email you directly?

@Huji I've sent you an email (the cu-l one), where I copied Stanglavine, and we can discuss it better there.

Change 738222 had a related patch set uploaded (by 4nn1l2; author: 4nn1l2):

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Change votewiki language back to English

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/738222

@Tks4Fish and @Stanglavine voting period has ended and here are the remaining steps:

• Nov 12 - Nov 16: Tallying period
  • Change the language of votewiki back to English (en)
  • Election exec. committee checks if any vote was cast while the user was locally blocked
  • Scrutineers run necessary checks to strike votes submitted by socks or placed through proxy IP addresses
    • Suggestion: use https://tools.wmflabs.org/ipcheck/splash.php to find proxy IP addresses
  • The Trust-and-Safety team or someone with shell access team runs the tally via command line
  • Output is presented in two tables (one that shows the candidates ranked by their support, and the other that shows the head-to-head comparison matrix of votes)
  • Scrutineers confirm that the result posted on wiki matches the result from the tally

Additionally, there is the outstanding question about votes you struck due to proxy use which the users claim were incorrectly struck (i.e. they were not using a proxy). About that I have sent a new email to you.

Here is a list of users who voted while blocked on fawiki and their votes must be struck:

• برسام (already struck)
• محمد هادی ۷۷ has been blocked since Oct 6, and voted on Nov 1.

Here is a list of votes that may have been cast while the user was still blocked on fawiki.

• Baratiiman was blocked until Nov 10, 18:86 UTC. They cast a vote on Nov 10 (time is not shown publicly but scrutineers should have access to its time). If before 18:86 UTC, it should be struck.

Here is a list of votes by a user who was not blocked at the time they voted, but they were later blocked on fawiki as a sock, therefore their vote should be struck:

• Fakhravar jam was blocked on Nov 12 as a sock.

Changing votewiki language back to English was scheduled for Monday, November 15, 19:00 UTC.

There were no backport windows earlier.

In T292685#7501346, @Huji wrote:

Here is a list of users who voted while blocked on fawiki and their votes must be struck:

@Huji I've checked the votes you sent, and struck them where appropriate. I also sent you an email, after you reply to it I think we should be done with scrutineering, but I'll talk to @Stanglavine to see if he has any more concerns.

That email was just responded to.

In T292685#7503491, @Tks4Fish wrote:

In T292685#7501346, @Huji wrote:

Here is a list of users who voted while blocked on fawiki and their votes must be struck:

@Huji I've checked the votes you sent, and struck them where appropriate. I also sent you an email, after you reply to it I think we should be done with scrutineering, but I'll talk to @Stanglavine to see if he has any more concerns.

Just to confirm that everything is OK from my side too.

Change 738222 merged by jenkins-bot:

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Change votewiki language back to English

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/738222

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2021-11-15T19:30:19Z] <urbanecm@deploy1002> Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: cdac608e84250207efeac9ea489a7e5be908ec70: Change votewiki language back to English (T292685) (duration: 00m 56s)

In T292685#7503528, @Stanglavine wrote:

Just to confirm that everything is OK from my side too.

In that case, we can move ahead with tallying.

@jrbs I think the next item is for you to do.

Hi folks, sorry, I was on vacation and sick leave. Can you access the tally here? https://vote.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:SecurePoll/tally/1284

Possibly you need to be an election admin to access that page.

I have emailed the results to Mahdy Saffar.

I announced the results here: https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%A9%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%D9%BE%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%A7:%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%AA_%D9%87%DB%8C%D8%A6%D8%AA_%D9%86%D8%B8%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%AA/%D8%AF%D9%88%D8%B1_%D8%AF%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B2%D8%AF%D9%87%D9%85/%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%AC.
@Stanglavine and @Tks4Fish please confirm the results in the page above.