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Tag page creations of previously deleted pages
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Sep 15 2013, 8:54 AM
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Description

There are many times where knowing that a newly created page was previously deleted is beneficial to Wikipedia editors, but finding out this information is currently a multi-step process.

We could add a new tag in the page creation log for page creations which are made at a title which was previously deleted.

The original request at this ticket was for a 'Recreated pages' Special page, but if we add a tag, Special:NewPages basically becomes this, because users can simply filter for this tag.

This feature was implemented in PageTriage (English Wikipedia-only) in T189929 - if we implemented a tag, that code could probably be removed from this software and centralised in core. T382067 filed to track this work.

Community wishlist proposal: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist/Wishes/Mark_pages_recreated_at_the_already_deleted_title

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Tag page creations of previously deleted pages - add to release notesmediawiki/coremaster+3 -0
Tag page creations of previously deleted pagemediawiki/coremaster+160 -2
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Krinkle edited projects, added MediaWiki-Recent-changes, Growth-Team; removed MediaWiki-Special-pages.Jun 24 2019, 12:16 AM
Krinkle removed a subscriber: • wikibugs-l-list.
Restricted Application added a subscriber: alaa. · View Herald TranscriptJun 24 2019, 12:16 AM
MBinder_WMF added a project: Growth-Team-Filtering.Apr 15 2021, 7:05 PM
Aklapper changed the subtype of this task from "Task" to "Feature Request".Feb 4 2022, 11:13 AM
KStoller-WMF removed projects: Growth-Team-Filtering, Growth-Team.Sep 13 2024, 5:42 PM
Samwalton9-WMF subscribed.Nov 6 2024, 12:58 PM

It sounds like an actionable ask here could be a Tag that is added to a newly created page when the page had previously been deleted?

Restricted Application added a project: Moderator-Tools-Team. · View Herald TranscriptNov 6 2024, 12:58 PM
Samwalton9-WMF added a comment.Nov 7 2024, 12:54 PM

It looks like this feature was added as part of PageTriage in T189929.

Qgil unsubscribed.Nov 7 2024, 1:14 PM
MusikAnimal subscribed.Nov 7 2024, 5:37 PM
Samwalton9-WMF added a comment.Nov 7 2024, 5:39 PM

Seems like T22892 is a related proposal to achieve this functionality via AbuseFilter, but it seems to me that a tag created by MediaWiki could be a better option, alongside other core tags.

Samwalton9-WMF renamed this task from Add a "Recreated pages" Special page to Tag page creations of previously deleted pages.Nov 7 2024, 5:46 PM
Samwalton9-WMF raised the priority of this task from Low to Needs Triage.
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Tagging @Nemoralis, @Ebrahim and @Pppery who were subscribed to T371302. What do you think about the idea I've sketched in the task description?

Nemoralis awarded a token.Nov 7 2024, 6:09 PM

Sounds good to me

MusikAnimal awarded a token.Nov 7 2024, 6:33 PM
Pppery edited projects, added MediaWiki-Change-tagging; removed MediaWiki-Recent-changes.Nov 7 2024, 7:16 PM

Seems reasonable to me

Adding a change tag would display everywhere and not just in recent changes/new pages, so removing that component.

Samwalton9-WMF moved this task from Inbox to To be estimated on the Moderator-Tools-Team board.Nov 12 2024, 1:13 PM
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Samwalton9-WMF triaged this task as Medium priority.Nov 12 2024, 4:27 PM
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Nemoralis added a project: User-notice.Nov 13 2024, 9:54 PM
UOzurumba moved this task from To Triage to Not ready to announce on the User-notice board.Nov 14 2024, 4:57 AM
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gerritbot added a comment.Nov 15 2024, 4:32 PM

Change #1091761 had a related patch set uploaded (by Kgraessle; author: Kgraessle):

[mediawiki/core@master] Tag page creations of previously deleted page

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1091761

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.Nov 15 2024, 4:32 PM
Kgraessle moved this task from In Progress to Eng review on the Moderator-Tools-Team (Kanban) board.Nov 15 2024, 4:51 PM
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Kgraessle moved this task from In Progress to Eng review on the Moderator-Tools-Team (Kanban) board.Nov 25 2024, 5:37 PM
Kgraessle added a comment.Nov 25 2024, 6:06 PM

There is still some outstanding code review questions, but I wanted to get some feedback around creating a store to query the log table.

Kgraessle moved this task from Eng review to Reviewed (waiting for changes) on the Moderator-Tools-Team (Kanban) board.Nov 26 2024, 7:18 PM
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Kgraessle moved this task from In Progress to Eng review on the Moderator-Tools-Team (Kanban) board.Dec 5 2024, 4:17 PM
PatchDemoBot added a comment.Dec 11 2024, 9:19 AM

Test wiki created on Patch demo by Samwalton9 (WMF) using patch(es) linked to this task:
http://patchdemo.wmcloud.org/wikis/8e1276296b/w/

Samwalton9-WMF added a comment.Dec 11 2024, 9:24 AM

This looks good! The tag shows up in Recent changes:

Screenshot 2024-12-11 at 09.22.10.png (184×1 px, 64 KB)

And the page creation log:

Screenshot 2024-12-11 at 09.22.48.png (278×1 px, 106 KB)

It can be filtered for in both venues.

Additionally it displays as expected in the page history and user contributions, and on Special:Tags.

Samwalton9-WMF mentioned this in T382067: Use core Recreated tag instead of custom page recreation detection.Dec 12 2024, 1:41 PM
Kgraessle moved this task from Eng review to In Progress on the Moderator-Tools-Team (Kanban) board.Dec 12 2024, 4:12 PM
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Kgraessle moved this task from In Progress to Eng review on the Moderator-Tools-Team (Kanban) board.Mon, Jan 6, 6:59 PM
Pppery merged a task: T45901: Highlight recreated pages in Recent Changes List.Fri, Jan 10, 4:49 AM
Pppery merged a task: T22892: Add ability to detect deleted revisions and page creation.
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gerritbot added a comment.Tue, Jan 14, 3:50 PM

Change #1091761 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/core@master] Tag page creations of previously deleted page

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1091761

ReleaseTaggerBot added a project: MW-1.44-notes (1.44.0-wmf.13; 2025-01-21).Tue, Jan 14, 4:00 PM
Wargo moved this task from Not ready to announce to Announce in next Tech/News on the User-notice board.Tue, Jan 14, 4:19 PM
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Wargo added a comment.Tue, Jan 14, 4:25 PM

Works
https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AContributions&target=Wargo&namespace=all&tagfilter=&newOnly=1&start=2025-01-14&end=2025-01-14&limit=500

Samwalton9-WMF added a comment.Wed, Jan 15, 1:10 PM

Great!
Draft for User-notice:

When a page is created with the same title as a page which was previously deleted, a tag ('Recreated') will now be added, which users can filter for in [[Special:RecentChanges]] and [[Special:NewPages]].

gerritbot added a comment.Wed, Jan 15, 7:02 PM

Change #1111686 had a related patch set uploaded (by Kgraessle; author: Kgraessle):

[mediawiki/core@master] Tag page creations of previously deleted pages - add to release notes

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1111686

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.Wed, Jan 15, 7:02 PM
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