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Media viewer fails to give credit to all people in specific circumstances
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Description

The Media viewer fails to give credit to all people listed under author in situations where:

  1. There is a {{Creator:Foo}} template used for one of the authors, but
  2. Other authors are listed below said tag.

For example, Mathew_B._Brady_-_William_Sidney_Mount.jpg, if viewed in media viewer, will only credit Mathew Brady, leaving out credit to myself.

Not every creator has a template, and it's not uncommon for a templated and untemplated creator to both be responsible for a work, even outside of restoration work.


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bz66606

Event Timeline

bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Needs Triage.Nov 22 2014, 3:10 AM
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TheDJ added a comment.Jun 15 2014, 1:51 PM

This is true. I'm not sure how to best solve this, that is up to the multimedia team.

I would however advise you start using a template for your own creditline, that makes it easier to retroactively make it compatible with future generations of machine readable data.

Tgr added a comment.Jun 28 2014, 9:39 PM

When the author field has an author template, we discard all input outside it. We could just keep it instead; I don't think that could cause problems.

Tgr added a comment.Jun 28 2014, 9:41 PM

That said, it won't look particularly good (something like "Mathew Brady Restoration: Adam Cuerden"). That's the limitation of how much meaning can be extracted from templates currently; Wikidata will provide nicer ways.

Gilles triaged this task as Normal priority.Nov 24 2014, 2:43 PM
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Tgr updated the task description. (Show Details)Dec 31 2014, 2:20 AM
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Jdforrester-WMF moved this task from Untriaged to Backlog on the Multimedia board.Sep 4 2015, 6:35 PM
Restricted Application added subscribers: Matanya, Aklapper. · View Herald TranscriptSep 4 2015, 6:35 PM

Mass-removing the Multimedia tag from MediaViewer tasks, as this is now being worked on by the Reading department, not Editing's Multimedia team.

Jdlrobson changed the task status from Open to Stalled.Feb 3 2016, 8:26 PM
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Not clear how to proceed with this task right now without structured meta data.

Retaining text outside the hcard would be a fairly simple change in CommonsMetadata but I am not sure it would be beneficial all the time.

Well, we agree it's bad to leave out one of the credits, right?

TheDJ added a comment.Feb 5 2016, 10:31 AM

@AdamCuerden, Yes, but I think tgr's point is that he fears that by improving a small set of problem files (0.1% or something), there is the potential to add a much bigger group of new problem files that would get significantly 'worse quality', non-readable, non-understandable author information than we have right now. And that will be hard to assess, without reparsing all the file pages, which takes long, and equally as long to undo. etc..

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Jdlrobson lowered the priority of this task from Normal to Low.Nov 24 2016, 7:03 PM

I agree that we don't want to potentially hurt the credit on most files for a tiny use case - and I agree that we should try to fix this once structured data makes it easier for us to credit creators. Leaving stalled, but we definitely want to fix this as soon as is practicable.

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According to above comments a solution is not so easy and thus no good first bug…

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