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[Story] allow editing of more languages in the in other languages box than the ones defined via babel boxes
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The in other languages box allows editing labels, descriptions and aliases in the languages defined by the user's babel boxes. We should allow editing more languages there. Currently this is solved via the label lister gadget. Ideally we would be able to get rid of it completely and have its functionality built-in.

Conceptually we have several levels of languages to edit:

  • the current interface language
  • all languages defined in babel boxes
  • all languages that the item currently has some label/description/alias for
  • all languages Wikidata supports

Initially we will not cater to the last one. We make it possible to get to all languages that have at least one label, description or alias set via a "more" link or button.

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Fix broken title preview due to value() now returning a Fingerprintmediawiki/extensions/Wikibasemaster+39 -44
Refactor "more" languages code in entitytermsforlanguagelistviewmediawiki/extensions/Wikibasemaster+88 -40
Add a "more" link to show all languages availablemediawiki/extensions/Wikibasemaster+120 -2
Use Fingerprint in entitytermsviewmediawiki/extensions/Wikibasemaster+157 -126
Customize query in gerrit

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Lydia_Pintscher created this task.Mar 15 2015, 8:48 AM
Lydia_Pintscher raised the priority of this task from to Medium.
Lydia_Pintscher updated the task description. (Show Details)
Lydia_Pintscher added projects: Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository.
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Lydia_Pintscher moved this task from incoming to needs discussion or investigation on the Wikidata board.Mar 15 2015, 9:05 AM

One possible solution: The use-case of "adding information for languages not in my babel boxes and not already filled out to at least a minimal part" is very uncommon. Then we can decide not to cater to it and just cover the first 3. Then a "more" button could do.

Ricordisamoa subscribed.Mar 15 2015, 10:51 AM
Daniel_Mietchen subscribed.Mar 16 2015, 12:41 AM
Denny subscribed.Mar 16 2015, 4:44 PM

But maybe name it "More", "Even more", "All" ;)

Pengo subscribed.Mar 24 2015, 8:48 PM
Laddo subscribed.Mar 30 2015, 1:50 PM
Nemo_bis subscribed.Mar 31 2015, 5:47 PM

"All" is easy, "More" hard. Cf. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Universal_Language_Selector/Design/Interlanguage_links#User-specific_language_selection

If the main use case is showing (and editing) a specific language or family of languages, the jquery.uls panel may help. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ULS_Language_list.png

Bene subscribed.Apr 6 2015, 1:14 PM

We could also have an input field to enter a language and a "Show in this language" button.

Another option would be a "more" link (cf third point) and an "add" button to enter a label for a language which does not exist yet on that item, which would require a language input field as well.

Nemo_bis added a comment.Apr 6 2015, 1:19 PM

We could also have an input field to enter a language and a "Show in this language" button.

jquery.uls provides this.

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.Nov 10 2015, 3:29 PM

Ok in order to get this unstuck we will go ahead with a "more" solution for now. This means we have a button or link that expands the table by the languages that have at least one label, description or alias set.

Lydia_Pintscher updated the task description. (Show Details)Nov 10 2015, 3:30 PM
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Lydia_Pintscher renamed this task from allow editing of more languages in the in other languages box than the ones defined via babel boxes to [Story] allow editing of more languages in the in other languages box than the ones defined via babel boxes.Nov 10 2015, 3:41 PM
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Lydia_Pintscher added a parent task: T76243: [Story] Useful empty state of item and property.Nov 10 2015, 3:43 PM
Lydia_Pintscher mentioned this in T118267: [Story] inviting sentence for empty statement section.
Bene claimed this task.Nov 24 2015, 10:08 AM
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Bene moved this task from Proposed to Doing on the Wikidata-Sprint-2015-11-17 board.Nov 24 2015, 10:35 AM
Lydia_Pintscher added a project: Wikidata-Sprint-2015-12-01.Dec 1 2015, 10:13 AM
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gerritbot subscribed.Dec 1 2015, 10:59 AM

Change 256196 had a related patch set uploaded (by Bene):
Add a "more" link to show all languages available

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/256196

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.Dec 1 2015, 10:59 AM
Lydia_Pintscher moved this task from Doing to Review on the Wikidata-Sprint-2015-12-01 board.Dec 1 2015, 1:50 PM
Bene moved this task from Review to Doing on the Wikidata-Sprint-2015-12-01 board.Dec 1 2015, 2:37 PM
adrianheine added a comment.Dec 4 2015, 12:29 PM

Should this work without JS as well (hint: I think it should).

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.Dec 4 2015, 6:01 PM

@adrianheine do you have an idea how we can make it work without JS?

adrianheine added a comment.Dec 7 2015, 9:20 AM

@Lydia_Pintscher: Not really. We would probably have to include all terms in static HTML. If we want to ditch wbEntity, we need to do that anyway. It might also improve Google results?

Ricordisamoa added a comment.Dec 7 2015, 2:25 PM

Special:SetAllLabelsDescriptionsAliases/Q1?

Bene added a comment.Dec 7 2015, 4:16 PM

@Ricordisamoa this ticket is specifically about the "in other languages" box shown on the item pages.

Ricordisamoa added a comment.Dec 8 2015, 7:12 AM
In T92759#1858473, @Bene wrote:

@Ricordisamoa this ticket is specifically about the "in other languages" box shown on the item pages.

I am proposing a new special page

adrianheine added a comment.Dec 8 2015, 8:04 AM

The special page would be a way to support this without JS.

Lydia_Pintscher moved this task from needs discussion or investigation to in progress on the Wikidata board.Dec 11 2015, 10:15 AM
Pengo added a comment.Dec 31 2015, 10:26 PM

The site is basically broken without this functionality.

Until it's fixed, please at least let the user at least view all language labels, descriptions and aliases. Add a "more" link to a separate page that just lists them if that's a faster way to do it. But don't wait until you have the perfect solution implemented before letting users just view the existing labels.

Really, Wikidata just looks like it's broken when you go to a page that shows no label at all with no explanation of why not.

As I mentioned previously on a related thread, I believed Wikidata to still be some kind of beta test project for many years because of the obviously lacking basic information that was not shown. And it still feels like it because of this issue.

Nemo_bis added a comment.Jan 11 2016, 4:09 PM

The site is basically broken without this functionality.

True. Wikidata's multilingualism is something that most knowledge bases can only dream about (something similar is envisioned in multiple documents about international best practices, but rarely implemented). However, language selection is very, very hard.

That's why I maintain that Wikidata should use the UniversalLanguageSelector, so that we can join forces on a solution powerful enough for this extremely hard task. T122000: Access user language preferences (including Babel) via standard API is related.

Tobi_WMDE_SW added a project: Wikidata-Sprint-2016-01-19.Jan 19 2016, 1:47 PM
Tobi_WMDE_SW moved this task from Proposed to Backlog on the Wikidata-Sprint-2016-01-19 board.
• Jonas removed Bene as the assignee of this task.Jan 21 2016, 11:49 AM
gerritbot added a comment.Jan 21 2016, 4:23 PM

Change 256195 had a related patch set uploaded (by Bene):
Use Fingerprint in entitytermsview

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/256195

• Jonas assigned this task to thiemowmde.Jan 26 2016, 9:49 AM
• Jonas moved this task from Backlog to Doing on the Wikidata-Sprint-2016-01-19 board.
thiemowmde added subtasks: T124787: [Task] Remove all unused value() methods from view widgets, T124786: [Task] Widgets should delegate isInitialValue calls as far as possible.Jan 26 2016, 3:43 PM
gerritbot added a comment.Jan 28 2016, 2:58 PM

Change 256195 merged by jenkins-bot:
Use Fingerprint in entitytermsview

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/256195

gerritbot added a comment.Jan 28 2016, 3:00 PM

Change 256196 merged by jenkins-bot:
Add a "more" link to show all languages available

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/256196

gerritbot added a comment.Jan 28 2016, 3:26 PM

Change 266501 had a related patch set uploaded (by Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)):
Refactor "more" languages code in entitytermsforlanguagelistview

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/266501

gerritbot added a comment.Jan 28 2016, 3:34 PM

Change 266501 merged by jenkins-bot:
Refactor "more" languages code in entitytermsforlanguagelistview

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/266501

gerritbot added a comment.Jan 28 2016, 4:39 PM

Change 267043 had a related patch set uploaded (by Jonas Kress (WMDE)):
Introduce _hasMoreLanguages method

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/267043

gerritbot added a comment.Jan 28 2016, 4:50 PM

Change 267047 had a related patch set uploaded (by Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)):
Fix broken title preview due to value() now returning a Fingerprint

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/267047

gerritbot added a comment.Jan 29 2016, 10:54 AM

Change 267047 merged by jenkins-bot:
Fix broken title preview due to value() now returning a Fingerprint

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/267047

• Jonas closed this task as Resolved.Jan 29 2016, 11:34 AM
• Jonas moved this task from Doing to Review on the Wikidata-Sprint-2016-01-19 board.
• Jonas moved this task from Review to Done on the Wikidata-Sprint-2016-01-19 board.
Bene closed subtask T125523: [Bug] Fix order of additional languages as Resolved.Feb 2 2016, 6:32 PM
matej_suchanek mentioned this in T106670: Make beta-version of labelLister default.Feb 4 2016, 5:39 PM
matej_suchanek removed a project: Patch-For-Review.Feb 4 2016, 5:45 PM
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matej_suchanek removed a subscriber: gerritbot.
Izno added a subtask: T126510: [Story] Allow adding additional languages in the terms box.Feb 25 2016, 5:44 PM
Izno created subtask T128100: "More languages" presented twice (in English on Wikibase).Feb 25 2016, 5:50 PM
Izno created subtask T128104: [Bug] Editing multiple "more" languages at a single time is slow.Feb 25 2016, 6:02 PM
thiemowmde closed subtask T128100: "More languages" presented twice (in English on Wikibase) as Resolved.Jul 5 2016, 12:49 PM
thiemowmde closed subtask T124786: [Task] Widgets should delegate isInitialValue calls as far as possible as Invalid.Oct 5 2016, 12:42 PM
Izno closed subtask T128104: [Bug] Editing multiple "more" languages at a single time is slow as Resolved.Oct 1 2018, 1:20 PM
Lydia_Pintscher removed a parent task: T76243: [Story] Useful empty state of item and property.Jul 10 2019, 6:13 PM
• Samantha_Alipio_WMDE mentioned this in T288517: Modifying special pages that interact with both items/properties when federation is enabled.Aug 11 2021, 9:18 AM
Umherirrender closed subtask T124787: [Task] Remove all unused value() methods from view widgets as Resolved.Apr 2 2022, 8:11 PM
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