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[Config Change] Offer mobile Reply and New Discussion Tools at partner wikis
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This task is about making the mobile Reply and New Discussion Tools available as opt-out features on mobile at the wikis listed in the ===Deployment wikis section below

⚠️ Deployment timing

29 June 2022

Requirements

People who meet the criteria below will see the Reply Tool ( read: [ reply ]) and New Discussion Tool when visiting a talk page using the mobile site:

  1. People who are logged in or logged out
  2. People accessing a wiki listed in the ===Deployment wikis section below using the mobile version of the site

People who meet the criteria below will *NOT* see the Reply and New Discussion Tools when visiting a talk page using the mobile site:

  1. People who have explicitly disabled the Enable quick replying and Enable quick topic adding settings within Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing

Deployment wikis

See list in T294609: [SPIKE] Identify the projects we will partner with to improve mobile talk pages.

Testing instructions

At the wikis listed in the ===Wikis to test section below, do the following...

Logged in

  1. Log in as an existing user
  2. Visit a talk page
  3. Verify [ reply ] links are present next to each comment
  4. Click a [ reply ] link on the page of your choosing
  5. Verify the Reply Tool opens as expected
  6. Document the text input mode – source or visual - that you see by default

Logged out

  1. Visit a talk page
  2. Verify [ reply ] links are present next to each comment
  3. Click a [ reply ] link on the page of your choosing
  4. Verify the Reply Tool opens as expected
  5. Document the text input mode – source or visual - that you see by default

New account

  1. Create a new account
  2. Visit a talk page
  3. Verify [ reply ] links are present next to each comment
  4. Click a [ reply ] link on a page of your choosing
  5. Verify the Reply Tool opens as expected
  6. Document the text input mode – source or visual - that you see by default

Wikis to test

WikiDefault input: Logged INDefault input: Logged OUTDefault input: NEW ACCOUNT

Done

  • @ppelberg finalized Deployment timing
  • All ===Requirements are met

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Enable DiscussionTools on mobile at partner wikisoperations/mediawiki-configmaster+9 -1
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• ppelberg created this task.Dec 23 2021, 12:31 AM
• ppelberg moved this task from Backlog to Triaged on the DiscussionTools board.
• ppelberg moved this task from Untriaged to Next Quarter on the Editing-team board.
• ppelberg mentioned this in T298058: [Impact Analysis] Evaluate Impact of Mobile Reply and New Discussion Tools.Dec 23 2021, 12:36 AM
• ppelberg updated the task description. (Show Details)Dec 23 2021, 12:49 AM
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• ppelberg mentioned this in T298062: [A/B Test] Run an A/B test to evaluate impact of mobile DiscussionTools.Dec 23 2021, 1:17 AM
• ppelberg mentioned this in T301026: Create instrumentation spec for mobile DiscussionTools.Feb 9 2022, 4:25 AM
• ppelberg moved this task from Next Quarter to Kanban Board on the Editing-team board.Mar 5 2022, 2:24 AM
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gerritbot added a comment.Jun 27 2022, 8:25 PM

Change 809012 had a related patch set uploaded (by Bartosz Dziewoński; author: Bartosz Dziewoński):

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Enable DiscussionTools on mobile at partner wikis

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/809012

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.Jun 27 2022, 8:25 PM
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Scheduled for Wednesday (29 June): https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments#deploycal-item-20220629T1300 (@Whatamidoing-WMF will post a notice on-wiki)

Yahya subscribed.Jun 27 2022, 10:21 PM
gerritbot added a comment.Jun 29 2022, 1:03 PM

Change 809012 merged by jenkins-bot:

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Enable DiscussionTools on mobile at partner wikis

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/809012

Stashbot mentioned this in T311023: Enable new topic tool by default on enwiki.Jun 29 2022, 1:23 PM

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2022-06-29T13:23:34Z] <urbanecm@deploy1002> Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: 78fe6a15: 9f76648: 897e69c7: 977e57b: DiscussionTools config changes (T310960, T298221, T311023) (duration: 03m 38s)

Stashbot mentioned this in T310960: [Config Change] Make all DiscussionTools available by default at mediawiki.org.Jun 29 2022, 1:23 PM
Maintenance_bot removed a project: Patch-For-Review.Jun 29 2022, 1:31 PM
matmarex moved this task from Doing to Ready for Sign Off on the Editing-team (Kanban Board) board.Jun 29 2022, 1:43 PM
Aftabuzzaman subscribed.Jul 1 2022, 2:06 PM

Hello, since yesterday, title of the section looks thick/bold and there is also a "read as wiki page" button at the bottom of the page. E.g. see https://bn.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/আলাপ:বাংলাদেশ.

• ppelberg mentioned this in T312683: Mobile talk page section headings are displayed in unexpected typeface.Jul 8 2022, 9:41 PM
• ppelberg added a comment.Jul 8 2022, 10:47 PM
In T298221#8044198, @Aftabuzzaman wrote:

Hello, since yesterday, title of the section looks thick/bold and there is also a "read as wiki page" button at the bottom of the page. E.g. see https://bn.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/আলাপ:বাংলাদেশ.

hi @Aftabuzzaman – a few thoughts in response to what you shared above...

  1. Thank you for reporting the unexpected change in the way mobile talk page section titles appear! What you experienced is in fact a bug that we are fixing now. See: T312683.
  2. Can you share what is unexpected to you about the Read as wiki page link that appears at the bottom of the page? Are you surprised by the fact that that link is present at all? Are you surprised that the link is not translated into Bangla? Something else? So you're aware, the Read as wiki page link was present on mobile talk pages before the deployment of the mobile Reply and New Topic Tools.
  3. The change in appearance of the talk page section aside, if you have tried the new interfaces for replying to specific comments and starting new topics, we'd value hearing what you think about them :)
• ppelberg moved this task from Ready for Sign Off to QA on the Editing-team (Kanban Board) board.Jul 8 2022, 10:47 PM
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Aftabuzzaman added a comment.Jul 8 2022, 11:15 PM

Are you surprised by the fact that that link is present at all?

Yes, i meant this. Right now it's doing almost nothing except showing a pencil icon when you click on it.

There might be another bug. I noticed it since yesterday. Go to the same page above and click "Read as wiki page", the reply tool is gone/not present (related to T312683?).

• ppelberg added a comment.Jul 8 2022, 11:46 PM
In T298221#8066873, @Aftabuzzaman wrote:

Are you surprised by the fact that that link is present at all?

Yes, i meant this. Right now it's doing almost nothing except showing a pencil icon when you click on it.

Understood and it's accurate for you to think that tapping the Read as wiki page link has a relatively limited impact right now...

As you mentioned, it reveals a view that: A) shows edit pencils next to each section heading and hides the [ reply ] links.

With the above in mind, I can see why you'd come to question the usefulness of this element.

And while we have longer term plans to remove the Read as wiki page link (T280417), in the short-term, the view the Read as wiki page reveals will start to differ more greatly from the default talk page view as we deploy more of the design changes we have planned. You can see the designs we are working on below and try them out for yourself on this test wiki:

Topic-Containers-Mobile-Minerva.png (2×3 px, 968 KB)

There might be another bug. I noticed it since yesterday. Go to the same page above and click "Read as wiki page", the reply tool is gone/not present (related to T312683?).

This is intentional. See above.

• ppelberg closed this task as Resolved.Jul 15 2022, 2:37 AM

hi @Aftabuzzaman – I'm going to resolve this task since I haven't heard from you in a week.

Although, please re-open this if you would value talking more about anything I said in T298221#8066926.

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DLynch mentioned this in T318302: [Config Change] Enable all DiscussionTools by default at partner wikis (mobile).Sep 27 2022, 3:00 PM
matmarex mentioned this in T298222: [Config Change] Offer mobile Topic Subscriptions and Usability Improvements at partner wikis.Apr 6 2023, 1:22 PM
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