Echo: The "You have new messages" link should go to a diff and/or subsection
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The orange "You have new messages" talkpage-message Notification, currently leads just to the top of the user talkpage. (Ie. [User talk:Quiddity])

It should lead to either:

  • the subsection (if known, and if there's just one new message), or
  • to the diff (if subsection is unknown, or if there are multiple new talkpage messages).

One user has requested that it *always* lead to the diff, which /would/ be more consistent, but I also understand the desire to not confront everyone with a diff (VE, newcomer friendliness, etcetc). ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notifications#Two_clicks_instead_of_one:_Why.3F )

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Quiddity created this task.Nov 1 2013, 5:14 PM
Spage added a comment.Nov 4 2013, 6:21 PM

The WMF core features team tracks this bug on Mingle card https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/flow/cards/395, but people from the community are welcome to contribute here and in Gerrit.

(In reply to comment #0)

The orange "You have new messages" talkpage-message Notification, currently
leads just to the top of the user talkpage. (Ie. [User talk:Quiddity])

This is one of the things I probably miss the most about the OBOD, that I could get a direct diff to the new edits.

It should lead to either:

  • the subsection (if known, and if there's just one new message), or
  • to the diff (if subsection is unknown, or if there are multiple new talkpage messages).

From a code standpoint, either of these are probably doable.

One user has requested that it *always* lead to the diff, which /would/ be
more
consistent, but I also understand the desire to not confront everyone with a
diff (VE, newcomer friendliness, etcetc).

I don't think always going to the diff is a good idea, for some of the reasons you mentioned.

Adding a "You have new messages (diff)" thing to the personal tools menu would be icky and add some more clutter. I don't know where else we could add the link.

CC'ing Jared for some design input.

I could have sworn this was a duplicate bug... I may be remembering the bug about the Echo drop-down nav thing not including a "view changes" link.

(In reply to comment #3)

I could have sworn this was a duplicate bug... I may be remembering the bug
about the Echo drop-down nav thing not including a "view changes" link.

You're probably thinking of bug 54391 - which I've been told is just to do with the email bundled diff (or something).

Change 94506 had a related patch set (by Aude) published:
Link "You have new messages" to user talk diff

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94506

Change 94506 abandoned by Aude:
Link "You have new messages" to user talk diff

Reason:
since ext.echo.alert.js is deleted, shall try new approach :)

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/94506

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