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there should be a comparison of clicks count on interlanguage links on different platforms
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On different incarnations of Wikipedia the interlanguage links look and behave quite differently. Assuming that the main purpose of interlanguage links is to help people find content in their language, it is useful to see what designs behave the best and get more people to click or tap on them.

The platforms to check are:

  • MobileFrontend
  • iOS app
  • Android app
  • desktop
    • On desktop it may be useful to note whether the Compact links beta feature was in use, and if it was, whether the clicked link was in the initial list or in the ULS panel.

For some non-numeric discussion of the issues see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Interlanguage_links/Implementation_comparison .

(This is probably mostly work for Analytics, but I'm also tagging Mobile and Language teams, because it's closely related.)

See R&D card here: https://trello.com/c/yMOgaSjz/235

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Amire80 created this task.Dec 12 2014, 12:05 AM
Amire80 raised the priority of this task from to Needs Triage.
Amire80 updated the task description. (Show Details)
Amire80 added projects: Analytics, Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog, Wikipedia-iOS-App-Backlog, Web-Team-Backlog, Language-Team, Mobile-Apps, UniversalLanguageSelector.
Amire80 changed Security from none to None.
Amire80 added subscribers: Amire80, Pginer-WMF, • Deskana and 3 others.
• ggellerman added subscribers: • kevinator, • DarTar.Dec 12 2014, 12:22 AM
• KLans_WMF moved this task from Incoming to Epics/Goals on the Web-Team-Backlog board.Dec 12 2014, 6:13 PM
Jdlrobson moved this task from Epics/Goals to 2016-17 Q4 on the Web-Team-Backlog board.Dec 22 2014, 7:46 PM
• Deskana triaged this task as Medium priority.Jan 9 2015, 9:00 PM
Amire80 added a subtask: T66793: Make compact interlanguage links default.Jan 15 2015, 8:39 AM
Amire80 removed a subtask: T66793: Make compact interlanguage links default.Jan 15 2015, 8:47 AM
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Amire80 added a subscriber: • bmansurov.Jan 23 2015, 5:23 PM
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• DarTar added a comment.Mar 4 2015, 7:15 PM

If this doesn't require new instrumentation I think we can help. I created a card cross-linking to this ticket in Trello and I'll discuss it with the team at the next backlog grooming.

Liuxinyu970226 subscribed.Mar 9 2015, 7:05 AM
Amire80 added a comment.Mar 9 2015, 11:21 AM

Looks like it doesn't require something special. Do note that it needs to take into account the apps, and it would be nice to know whether the clicking user has the Compact language links beta feature enabled.

Aklapper added a project: ULS-CompactLinks.Mar 10 2015, 2:53 PM
Amire80 mentioned this in T88240: Extremely difficult to follow interlanguage links in Wikipedia app.Mar 10 2015, 10:57 PM
Amire80 renamed this task from there should be a comparison of clicks count on interlanguage on different platforms to there should be a comparison of clicks count on interlanguage links on different platforms.Mar 12 2015, 9:23 AM
Arrbee moved this task from Backlog to Upstream on the UniversalLanguageSelector board.Mar 12 2015, 9:24 AM
Halfak updated the task description. (Show Details)Mar 12 2015, 10:44 PM
• DarTar added a comment.Mar 12 2015, 10:46 PM

@Amire80, we reviewed this card. I was assuming we could easily answer this with data we had already processed but it's not the case. We have little bandwidth to work on this: I'm archiving the Trello card assuming it's not a critical blocker, but I'll leave this as an open task on Phab.

• Deskana moved this task from Needs Triage to Tracking on the Wikipedia-iOS-App-Backlog board.Apr 6 2015, 9:49 PM
Jdlrobson moved this task from 2016-17 Q4 to 2015-16 Q4 on the Web-Team-Backlog board.Apr 10 2015, 6:09 PM
Jdlrobson removed a project: Web-Team-Backlog.Apr 10 2015, 6:20 PM
• bmansurov unsubscribed.Apr 10 2015, 7:03 PM
• KLans_WMF moved this task from Needs Triage to Tracking on the Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog board.Apr 20 2015, 9:30 PM
Amire80 mentioned this in T97780: As a multi-lingual user, I want to be able to change article languages quickly.May 6 2015, 10:26 PM
Amire80 mentioned this in T97819: A user who is bi-lingual / trilingual can easily switch article language and favorite languages.May 6 2015, 10:33 PM
Milimetric removed a project: Analytics.Dec 9 2015, 6:04 PM
Nemo_bis removed a parent task: T66793: Make compact interlanguage links default.Jan 5 2016, 11:50 AM
Jdlrobson added a comment.Jan 5 2016, 4:38 PM

Fyi web counts clicks to language button. If advise doing what the discovery team did and design a schema for all platforms. Am happy to help you get that schema up and running on web once done.

Amire80 moved this task from Backlog to Other on the ULS-CompactLinks board.Mar 26 2016, 4:04 PM
Amire80 added a project: Language-Engineering April-June 2016.Mar 30 2016, 9:13 AM
Amire80 moved this task from Backlog to ULS on the Language-Engineering April-June 2016 board.
Amire80 added a project: Language-Q4-2016-Sprint 1.Apr 4 2016, 4:36 AM
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Amire80 mentioned this in T132425: Prepare infrastructure to measure interlanguage links clicks on desktop.
Amire80 removed projects: Language-Q4-2016-Sprint 1, Language-Engineering April-June 2016.
Amire80 added a subtask: T132425: Prepare infrastructure to measure interlanguage links clicks on desktop.
Nemo_bis edited projects, added Analytics-General-or-Unknown; removed ULS-CompactLinks, UniversalLanguageSelector.Apr 15 2016, 10:50 AM
Arrbee closed subtask T132425: Prepare infrastructure to measure interlanguage links clicks on desktop as Resolved.May 18 2016, 6:24 AM
• JMinor subscribed.May 18 2016, 5:59 PM

One caveat in comparing across apps and web: their is one Wikipedia app, which users use to access all languages, however on web the sites are actually accessed directly. This may seem like a silly distinction, but it matters in the users mind if they see Wikipedia as one place with many languages, or many places each with its own language.

Still a very worthwhile idea, and I look forward to seeing the results.

Nikerabbit added a subtask: T135584: Prepare spreadsheet and scripts for daily reports of interlanguage links (and start reporting).May 20 2016, 6:38 AM
Nikerabbit subscribed.

@Amire80 Can you provide update on the current status of this task here?

• Prtksxna unsubscribed.May 20 2016, 6:54 AM
Arrbee closed subtask T135584: Prepare spreadsheet and scripts for daily reports of interlanguage links (and start reporting) as Resolved.May 31 2016, 7:10 AM
Amire80 moved this task from Untriaged to Analysis on the I18n board.Mar 24 2018, 7:04 PM
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Milimetric subscribed.Mar 26 2018, 5:01 PM

@Amire80 is this done after we publish the dashboard we're working on?

• fdans moved this task from Incoming to Radar on the Analytics board.Mar 29 2018, 5:05 PM
• Nuria subscribed.EditedMar 29 2018, 5:16 PM

@Nuria can work on this on BCN hackathon maybe? There is a new dataset about interlanguage links. Linking it here so everybody knows about it: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Data_Lake/Traffic/Interlanguage

Pginer-WMF edited projects, added Wikimedia-Interwiki-links; removed Language-Team.Apr 25 2018, 3:42 PM
Arrbee assigned this task to Amire80.Apr 25 2018, 3:43 PM
Amire80 removed a project: Mobile-Apps.Apr 25 2018, 3:48 PM
Amire80 removed subscribers: • KHammerstein, • MSyed, • howief, • kevinator.
In T78351#4081407, @Milimetric wrote:

@Amire80 is this done after we publish the dashboard we're working on?

Our current dashboard is desktop-only, so it doesn't cover all platforms, and covering all platforms is still desirable.

But it's quite likely that making some small modifications to this dashboard will resolve this task.

LGoto edited projects, added Product-Analytics; removed Wikipedia-iOS-App-Backlog.Aug 27 2019, 8:05 PM
LGoto moved this task from Triage to Tracking on the Product-Analytics board.Oct 28 2019, 4:52 PM
Aklapper edited projects, added Analytics-Radar; removed Analytics.Jun 10 2020, 6:33 AM
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Aklapper edited projects, added Analytics-Radar; removed Analytics.Jun 10 2020, 6:41 AM
Aklapper removed Amire80 as the assignee of this task.Jun 19 2020, 4:26 PM

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Milimetric closed this task as Declined.Jul 17 2020, 2:17 PM
Amire80 reopened this task as Open.Jul 17 2020, 2:26 PM

It's necessary, even if it's not prioritized now.

Milimetric added a comment.Jul 17 2020, 2:38 PM

Ok, right now this is not tagged Analytics so it's not something we're planning to work on. If you need our help, tag it Analytics and please provide more detail about why it's needed and what you meant in your comment above about small changes to the dashboard.

odimitrijevic removed a project: Analytics-General-or-Unknown.Nov 18 2021, 6:40 AM
Aklapper added a project: Data-Engineering-Icebox.Feb 10 2023, 5:44 PM
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