Follow-up to the creation in T197616, once we're sure SDC deployment has worked.
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Status | Subtype | Assigned | Task | ||
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Open | None | T213295 Close and delete TestCommons from production | |||
Open | PRODUCTION ERROR | None | T333574 Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError: Error 1146: Table 'commonswiki.wbt_type' doesn't exist when using Special:NewItem on Commons | ||
Open | None | T336418 Improve error signaling for unsupported Item entity type in Special:NewItem page on Commons |
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Greg said we could keep TestCommons until the end of Sept, if we notify his team as to what we're doing and why.
I'm still not clear on why *deletion* is necessary. Just leave the domain and unlock if we want more tests later. Unlocking a wiki is easier than setting up a new domain.
Hello folks. The SDC team needs test-commons up longer because Beta Commons can only point to Beta Wikidata, which is full of dummy entities that don't at all represent what's actually on Wikidata.
@greg heads up, sir, we're planning on using test Commons through September, per our chat.
The wiki is scheduled to be closed and deleted in December 2019, so don't get too attached to it!
It's over a year past that date now...
Probably. You should ask the Structured Data team, on whose behalf I requested its creation and removal.
added @CBogen to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/3633/ for visbility
Change 893058 had a related patch set uploaded (by Zabe; author: Zabe):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] close testcommonswiki
Change 893058 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] close testcommonswiki
Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-02-28T22:31:01Z] <zabe@deploy2002> Synchronized dblists/: close testcommonswiki T213295 (duration: 06m 40s)
Change 893066 had a related patch set uploaded (by Zabe; author: Zabe):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Drop custom testcommonswiki groups
Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-02-28T22:46:43Z] <zabe@deploy2002> Synchronized dblists/: close testcommonswiki T213295 (duration: 07m 11s)
Change 893066 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Drop custom testcommonswiki groups
Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-02-28T23:12:33Z] <zabe@deploy2002> Started scap: Backport for [[gerrit:893066|Drop custom testcommonswiki groups (T213295)]]
Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-02-28T23:14:17Z] <zabe@deploy2002> zabe: Backport for [[gerrit:893066|Drop custom testcommonswiki groups (T213295)]] synced to the testservers: mwdebug1001.eqiad.wmnet, mwdebug2002.codfw.wmnet, mwdebug1002.eqiad.wmnet, mwdebug2001.codfw.wmnet
Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-02-28T23:20:30Z] <zabe@deploy2002> Finished scap: Backport for [[gerrit:893066|Drop custom testcommonswiki groups (T213295)]] (duration: 07m 57s)
Change 893080 had a related patch set uploaded (by Zabe; author: Zabe):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] testcommonswiki: Remove some settings which are no longer needed
Change 893080 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] testcommonswiki: Remove some settings which are no longer needed
Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2023-02-28T23:43:54Z] <zabe@deploy2002> Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: T213295 (duration: 06m 56s)
That depends on whether the intention is still to delete the wiki completely or if closing it is sufficient.
Okay, thanks. IMO deletion should happen as there's no use for the contents of the test wiki.
Have we ever deleted a wiki (from a database point of view). I remember years ago we tried, but I don't remember if we actually did it, I think we simply left it as "delete" but never actually went ahead and deleted the database (which I am fine with as testcommons is only 137M on disk - so probably not worth the risk of trying to delete it for the first time.)
Maybe @Jdforrester-WMF remembers that discussion we had years ago? :)
We even have a guide for doing this: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Delete_a_wiki
We have deleted some wikis in the past. The Klingon Wikipedia (tlhwiki) would be an example.
I was referring to the actual database deletion, which is also mentioned in the second line of that wiki page as something usually not worth doing:
When we delete a wiki, the steps outlined below need to be performed, which makes MediaWiki claim that the wiki does not exist. Actually deleting the data from all of the database servers would be quite a bit more complicated, and is usually not worth doing.