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Jun 13 2017

Vogone added a comment to T128914: deleterevision alone does not provide any effective permission to the users.

In fact, this is exactly the "side-effect" described in LFaraone's initial commit. This means we need a solution which works for both, users with only 'deleterevision' and those with only 'deletedhistory'.

Jun 13 2017, 12:52 AM · MW-1.28-release-notes, MW-1.28-release (WMF-deploy-2016-10-25_(1.28.0-wmf.23)), Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-Revision-deletion
Vogone added a comment to T128914: deleterevision alone does not provide any effective permission to the users.

This change broke the accessibility of Special:RevisionDelete to ombudsmen which causes quite some trouble. I would suggest to revert this change and look for another way to solve this bug.

I've read this discussion again, and maybe I'm missing it, but could you clarify what accessibility was broken? AIUI you have deletedhistory & deletedtext rights. What functionality do you expect to have that is currently missing?

Jun 13 2017, 12:41 AM · MW-1.28-release-notes, MW-1.28-release (WMF-deploy-2016-10-25_(1.28.0-wmf.23)), Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-Revision-deletion

Jun 10 2017

Vogone added a comment to T128914: deleterevision alone does not provide any effective permission to the users.

I'm sorry if this may sound a little impolite, but is it really so hard to check Special:GlobalGroupPermissions (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalGroupPermissions)? FWIW, I am an ombudsman myself and should probably know which technical access I have.

Jun 10 2017, 11:48 PM · MW-1.28-release-notes, MW-1.28-release (WMF-deploy-2016-10-25_(1.28.0-wmf.23)), Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-Revision-deletion
Vogone added a comment to T128914: deleterevision alone does not provide any effective permission to the users.

Change 275268 had a related patch set uploaded (by LFaraone):
Allow users with deleterevision but not deletedhistory to delete revisions

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/275268

This change broke the accessibility of Special:RevisionDelete to ombudsmen which causes quite some trouble. I would suggest to revert this change and look for another way to solve this bug.

Why not give the Ombudsmen the appropriate rights? Just like how they have CheckUser access. If we can trust them with having CheckUser and Oversight access on every project, we can certainly trust them to have deletedhistory and deletedtext rights or even sysop rights everywhere.

In other words, you are trying to revert something that works correctly for many, just because there is a select few for whom it does not work, when there is an easy way to fix the permissions of those few.

I think you are misunderstanding the issue. Ombudsmen do have these passive rights, we would need to add 'deleterevision' in order to "fix" it which would allow ombudsmen to actively hide revisions which is certainly not intended.

I think you are misunderstanding my point. The Ombudsmen currently have rights such as CheckUser and Oversight, using which they could "actively run checks" or "actively suppress revisions". They do not use it for those purposes though, because they know they are not supposed to.

Similarly, it is fine to give them "deleterevision" with the understanding that they are not to use it to actively delete a revision.

Jun 10 2017, 11:16 PM · MW-1.28-release-notes, MW-1.28-release (WMF-deploy-2016-10-25_(1.28.0-wmf.23)), Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-Revision-deletion
Vogone added a comment to T128914: deleterevision alone does not provide any effective permission to the users.

Change 275268 had a related patch set uploaded (by LFaraone):
Allow users with deleterevision but not deletedhistory to delete revisions

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/275268

This change broke the accessibility of Special:RevisionDelete to ombudsmen which causes quite some trouble. I would suggest to revert this change and look for another way to solve this bug.

Why not give the Ombudsmen the appropriate rights? Just like how they have CheckUser access. If we can trust them with having CheckUser and Oversight access on every project, we can certainly trust them to have deletedhistory and deletedtext rights or even sysop rights everywhere.

In other words, you are trying to revert something that works correctly for many, just because there is a select few for whom it does not work, when there is an easy way to fix the permissions of those few.

Jun 10 2017, 7:19 PM · MW-1.28-release-notes, MW-1.28-release (WMF-deploy-2016-10-25_(1.28.0-wmf.23)), Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-Revision-deletion
Vogone reopened T128914: deleterevision alone does not provide any effective permission to the users as "Open".

Change 275268 had a related patch set uploaded (by LFaraone):
Allow users with deleterevision but not deletedhistory to delete revisions

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/275268

Jun 10 2017, 4:11 PM · MW-1.28-release-notes, MW-1.28-release (WMF-deploy-2016-10-25_(1.28.0-wmf.23)), Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-Revision-deletion
Vogone reopened T128914: deleterevision alone does not provide any effective permission to the users, a subtask of T129108: Revisionundelete role should be created, as Open.
Jun 10 2017, 4:11 PM · MediaWiki-Revision-deletion

Feb 9 2017

Vogone renamed E483: CN campaign: steward elections 2017 from CN campaing: steward elections 2017 to CN campaign: steward elections 2017.
Feb 9 2017, 5:35 PM · Stewards-and-global-tools, Wikimedia-CentralNotice-Administration (Q1-2017)

Jan 24 2017

Vogone added a comment to T156036: Signature time no longer updates when previewing before saving.

Steps: 1) Go to wikitext editor, 2) put --~~~~ in, 3) click preview, 4) wait a minute, 5) save the edit.
Result: Timestamp shows the time when the edit has been previewed instead of the time when the edit has been saved.

Jan 24 2017, 12:45 PM · MediaWiki-Page-editing

Jan 23 2017

Vogone created T156036: Signature time no longer updates when previewing before saving.
Jan 23 2017, 5:40 PM · MediaWiki-Page-editing

Jan 15 2017

Vogone renamed T155384: Set appropriate content model for pages created by CentralNotice for CentralNotice banners from Set apropriate content model for pages created by CentralNotice for CentralNotice banners to Set appropriate content model for pages created by CentralNotice for CentralNotice banners.
Jan 15 2017, 11:51 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-CentralNotice
Vogone created T155385: Special:CentralNoticeLogs 'bannercontent' logging issues.
Jan 15 2017, 11:40 PM · Fundraising-Backlog, MediaWiki-extensions-CentralNotice
Vogone created T155384: Set appropriate content model for pages created by CentralNotice for CentralNotice banners.
Jan 15 2017, 11:34 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-CentralNotice

Dec 24 2016

Vogone added a comment to T153412: Enable Flow on one page (Research talk:ORES paper) on Meta.

Please revert, community discussion has been closed as "no consensus" by a bureaucrat.

Dec 24 2016, 7:16 PM · Wikimedia-Site-requests, Community-consensus-needed, Collaboration-Team-Triage, StructuredDiscussions

Dec 16 2016

Vogone added a comment to T153397: Phabricator deleting input after clicking "Configure Form" in "Create Task (Simple)".

Obviously? If I go to the simple form, type some text, then "Configure Form" and "View Form Configurations", then press the back button to return to the form, I get my text back.

Dec 16 2016, 5:20 PM · Phabricator
Vogone added a comment to T27522: language code change for Samogitian: "bat-smg" to "sgs".

Just a technical task, I suppose. But it still requires some time to complete, because there is still an issue with Wikidata as outlined in a comment above:

Dec 16 2016, 9:34 AM · Wiki-Setup (Rename), Wikimedia-Language-setup
Vogone added a comment to T27522: language code change for Samogitian: "bat-smg" to "sgs".

Redirect sgs → bat-smg is not needed, because bat-smg was temporary decision until we got normal ISO code

Dec 16 2016, 5:33 AM · Wiki-Setup (Rename), Wikimedia-Language-setup
Vogone created T153397: Phabricator deleting input after clicking "Configure Form" in "Create Task (Simple)".
Dec 16 2016, 5:19 AM · Phabricator

Dec 6 2016

Vogone added a comment to T152157: MediaWiki should log login history.

Why should we do this?

Dec 6 2016, 1:47 AM · MediaWiki-extension-requests, Security-General

Dec 3 2016

Vogone added a comment to T152209: Assign importupload right to administrators on hsbwiki.

+1, 'importupload' is not a right which should be assigned automatically to any administrator, since it requires a fair amount of technical skills besides community trust. Entire page histories can be messed up (no matter if intentionally or by accident); I would strongly discourage from implementing this and would indeed suggest considering to follow the suggestion above and add transwiki import sources instead.

Dec 3 2016, 3:02 AM · User-Urbanecm, Wikimedia-Site-requests

Nov 26 2016

Vogone created T151688: Rename or delete 'suppress' user group on Wikimedia wikis.
Nov 26 2016, 7:12 PM · MW-1.29-release (WMF-deploy-2016-11-29_(1.29.0-wmf.4)), Patch-For-Review, Collaboration-Team-Triage, StructuredDiscussions

Sep 21 2016

Vogone added a comment to T27522: language code change for Samogitian: "bat-smg" to "sgs".

be-tarask was indeed moved, but it uncovered a Wikidata issue, which must be resolved before further changes: T112426.

Sep 21 2016, 5:34 AM · Wiki-Setup (Rename), Wikimedia-Language-setup

Sep 19 2016

Vogone added a comment to T27522: language code change for Samogitian: "bat-smg" to "sgs".

Any progress here? It's been 6 years now and there are examples (be-x-old moved, jpwiki redirected) which show that this here is a resolvable task.

Sep 19 2016, 5:43 PM · Wiki-Setup (Rename), Wikimedia-Language-setup

Jun 29 2016

Vogone lowered the priority of T138919: Create intro/summary for Special:GlobalRenameUser from High to Normal.

You can use https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Globalrenameuser-text. It is not enabled by default.

Jun 29 2016, 4:57 PM · Patch-For-Review, Easy, GlobalRename, MediaWiki-extensions-CentralAuth

May 11 2016

Vogone added a comment to T134788: Add Outreach Wiki to Special:Import on Meta Wiki.

@Dereckson I suppose the Wednesday "Morning SWAT" (today 15-16 UTC) will be just fine for this, Though, this obviously requires someone to create the patch before. Are you willing to do so? I will certainly not be available anymore before that time.

May 11 2016, 12:46 AM · Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests

Mar 4 2016

Vogone added a comment to T128858: Unable to mark new version of page for translation.

I can confirm this happens on multiple pages.

Mar 4 2016, 3:51 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-Translate

Feb 25 2016

Vogone added a comment to T128096: Unable to delete, restore/undelete, move or upload new versions of files on several wikis ("inconsistent state within the internal storage backends").

Also happens on other wikis.

Feb 25 2016, 7:02 PM · Patch-For-Review, Operations, media-storage
Vogone triaged T128096: Unable to delete, restore/undelete, move or upload new versions of files on several wikis ("inconsistent state within the internal storage backends") as Unbreak Now! priority.
Feb 25 2016, 7:02 PM · Patch-For-Review, Operations, media-storage
Vogone added a comment to T64717: Move oldwikisource on www.wikisource.org to mul.wikisource.org.

I don't see why this is "Traffic". but it's declined anyways

Why is it declined?

See the comment above mine by Luke081515

"Declined per T124354. There is no consensus for this change yet. Please reopen the task if consensus reached."

Feb 25 2016, 3:39 PM · Wiki-Setup (Rename), Wikimedia-Apache-configuration, Patch-For-Review, Wikisource, Community-consensus-needed

Feb 16 2016

Vogone updated subscribers of T126599: Drop-down menu's protection/block settings doesn't work on the Luri lrc wikipedia.
Feb 16 2016, 6:31 PM · MediaWiki-Page-protection

Feb 2 2016

Vogone added a comment to T124354: Restructuring of tasks with project community-consensus-needed.

This doesn't make any sense. Why do we need duplicate requests? And why would we want to wait until there is "no consensus"?

Feb 2 2016, 12:38 AM · User-Luke081515, Phabricator

Jan 9 2016

Vogone added a comment to T102398: Migrate wikis to use a single edit tab which has both visual and wikitext modes and allows on-the-fly switching between them.

I have a question concerning the user preferences. If I choose to use the old wikitext editor as my personal default editor, do I need to switch from VE to WT manually and individually on every wiki and every device I use or will there be an easy way to make this decision with global effect? This is quite important to me, because as a globally active user I edit several hundred different wikis and my slow internet connection does not appreciate VisualEditor at all.

Jan 9 2016, 5:53 AM · User-notice, Epic, Design, VisualEditor-MediaWiki, VisualEditor

Dec 11 2015

Vogone updated subscribers of T121168: Review rights removal by user Vogone.
Dec 11 2015, 6:27 PM · Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure
Vogone added a comment to T121168: Review rights removal by user Vogone.

Two questions:

  1. Why do you need to modify global groups? If there is a need, a task in Phabricator is preferred so discussion can take place.
  2. Testing? Do you really need steward rights for doing "tests" that global sysop isn't sufficient?

    Judging from your comments, I am inclined towards just allowing global sysops to modify global abusefilter rules on beta to fit your use case.
Dec 11 2015, 3:34 PM · Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure
Vogone added a comment to T121168: Review rights removal by user Vogone.

I discovered some of the bugs by the way, so unwanted, like the both bugs concerning mediawiki currently triaged as low. For the bug triaged as high you need just the right to view, so nobody can replicate this, if he just can see my logs/actions. The bug at normal priority concerning logging is just visible for people with more rights, so you can't discover the bugs I reported, if you only see my logs, so it's not discernable in this situation. But there are other issues, I found at beta, reproducilbe for production too, and I can't find them at the future without the possibility to simulate some situations there, so in this point the consequence could be, that we have more bugs, which are unknown, because no one discovered them.

Dec 11 2015, 12:33 PM · Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure

Dec 10 2015

Vogone added a comment to T20954: Allow Special:Log to be filtered by log_action as well as log_type.

@Cenarium: Maybe a case for SWAT? Then we would now, at which time.

Dec 10 2015, 5:45 PM · MW-1.28-release (WMF-deploy-2016-08-02_(1.28.0-wmf.13)), MW-1.27-release (WMF-deploy-2016-03-29_(1.27.0-wmf.19)), MW-1.27-release-notes, User-notice, Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-Special-pages

Nov 8 2015

Vogone added a comment to T117990: Enable StructuredDiscussions on wikis that require it.

Please don't, talk pages have to be editable by anyone, not just by people who are into flow.

Nov 8 2015, 5:53 PM · Collaboration-Community-Engagement, Goal, Community-Liaisons, Collaboration-Team-Triage, Wikimedia-Site-requests, StructuredDiscussions

Jun 26 2015

Vogone added a project to T103876: allow uploading by URL to all whitelisted domains (wgCopyUploadsDomains): Commons.
Jun 26 2015, 5:41 PM · Commons, Multimedia, UploadWizard

Apr 23 2015

Vogone assigned T96957: Global rename request notification emails should be sent with 'Notes' to Legoktm.
Apr 23 2015, 12:26 PM · Patch-For-Review, GlobalRename, MediaWiki-extensions-CentralAuth, SUL-Finalization
Vogone added a comment to T96899: Make log "Target" global.

For user rights, @* already works. It might be useful to show it even if Special:Log/rights is not specifically selected though (i.e. Special:Log (all public logs))

Apr 23 2015, 12:23 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-CentralAuth

Apr 22 2015

Vogone created T96899: Make log "Target" global.
Apr 22 2015, 7:24 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-CentralAuth

Apr 9 2015

Vogone created T95608: Double user name in global rename log.
Apr 9 2015, 7:54 PM · Reading-Infrastructure-Team-Old (Don't use), MediaWiki-extensions-CentralAuth

Apr 8 2015

Vogone added a comment to T95408: Liangent's user page and user subpages on zhwiki.

I suppose we need a javascript confirm button on the rename queue like Special:GlobalRenameUser has?

Apr 8 2015, 11:27 PM · Chinese-Sites, MediaWiki-extensions-CentralAuth, GlobalRename, Wikimedia-Site-requests

Mar 11 2015

Gerrit Code Review <gerrit@wikimedia.org> committed rMEXT311940f2dfea: Updated mediawiki/extensions Project: mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages… (authored by Vogone).
Updated mediawiki/extensions Project: mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages…
Mar 11 2015, 6:18 AM
Gerrit Code Review <gerrit@wikimedia.org> committed rMEXT0cc30b5256a4: Updated mediawiki/extensions Project: mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase… (authored by Vogone).
Updated mediawiki/extensions Project: mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase…
Mar 11 2015, 6:14 AM
Gerrit Code Review <gerrit@wikimedia.org> committed rMEXTbd2268549687: Updated mediawiki/extensions Project: mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages… (authored by Vogone).
Updated mediawiki/extensions Project: mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages…
Mar 11 2015, 6:14 AM
Gerrit Code Review <gerrit@wikimedia.org> committed rMEXTc9560a9dbb53: Updated mediawiki/extensions Project: mediawiki/extensions/GlobalBlocking… (authored by Vogone).
Updated mediawiki/extensions Project: mediawiki/extensions/GlobalBlocking…
Mar 11 2015, 6:14 AM
Gerrit Code Review <gerrit@wikimedia.org> committed rMEXT62b2a5db3be5: Updated mediawiki/extensions Project: mediawiki/extensions/GlobalCssJs… (authored by Vogone).
Updated mediawiki/extensions Project: mediawiki/extensions/GlobalCssJs…
Mar 11 2015, 6:13 AM
Gerrit Code Review <gerrit@wikimedia.org> committed rMEXT71bb62616237: Updated mediawiki/extensions Project: mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages… (authored by Vogone).
Updated mediawiki/extensions Project: mediawiki/extensions/WikimediaMessages…
Mar 11 2015, 6:13 AM

Mar 3 2015

Vogone committed rOMWC63a5716f4fdb: Create new user group for WMDE staff at wikidatawiki (authored by Vogone).
Create new user group for WMDE staff at wikidatawiki
Mar 3 2015, 8:59 PM
Vogone committed rOMWCdf2b84bcbe41: Add import sources for orwikisource (authored by Vogone).
Add import sources for orwikisource
Mar 3 2015, 8:59 PM
Vogone committed rOMWCcbf336ffa4f4: Add 'movefile' to 'eliminator' user group on jawiki (authored by Vogone).
Add 'movefile' to 'eliminator' user group on jawiki
Mar 3 2015, 8:58 PM
Vogone committed rOMWCfe18ddc0922d: Add new Portal/Portal talk namespaces to kowikisource (authored by Vogone).
Add new Portal/Portal talk namespaces to kowikisource
Mar 3 2015, 8:58 PM
Vogone committed rOMWC355b22b8d666: Add 'global-renamer' user group to metawiki (authored by Vogone).
Add 'global-renamer' user group to metawiki
Mar 3 2015, 8:58 PM
Vogone committed rOMWC685d908d72a6: Add 'abusefilter-log-detail' to 'rollbacker' and 'patroller' group at eswiki (authored by Vogone).
Add 'abusefilter-log-detail' to 'rollbacker' and 'patroller' group at eswiki
Mar 3 2015, 8:58 PM
Vogone committed rOMWC5dd18fb0a091: Added mrwiki to commonsuploads.dblist (authored by Vogone).
Added mrwiki to commonsuploads.dblist
Mar 3 2015, 8:58 PM
Vogone committed rOMWC7169f0a63d10: Added namespace aliases for thwiki (authored by Vogone).
Added namespace aliases for thwiki
Mar 3 2015, 8:58 PM
Vogone committed rOMWC15fe15019d0c: Adding autopatrolled user group for dewikivoyage (authored by Vogone).
Adding autopatrolled user group for dewikivoyage
Mar 3 2015, 8:57 PM
[[mw:User:Vogone]] <gerritpatchuploader@gmail.com> committed rOMWCcf653962a909: New namespace aliases for lt test project on BetaWV (authored by Vogone).
New namespace aliases for lt test project on BetaWV
Mar 3 2015, 8:57 PM
Gerrit Code Review <gerrit@wikimedia.org> committed rOMWC6930e384faf6: (bug 48013) Creating a flood user group for wikidatawiki (authored by Vogone).
(bug 48013) Creating a flood user group for wikidatawiki
Mar 3 2015, 8:52 PM
Gerrit Code Review <gerrit@wikimedia.org> committed rOMWCca2c8922fa1f: (bug 44411) Added new import sources to dewikivoyage (authored by Vogone).
(bug 44411) Added new import sources to dewikivoyage
Mar 3 2015, 8:51 PM

Jan 23 2015

Vogone added a comment to T62877: Migrate https://toolserver.org/~erwin85/delete.php to Tool Labs.

Anyone working on this right now? I personally miss this tool quite a lot.

Jan 23 2015, 9:55 PM · Tool-Erwin's-tools

Jan 8 2015

Vogone added a comment to T85731: Standardize name of interface editor group across Wikimedia wikis.

I was under impression we do not change already implemented group names, even if wrongly named. enwiki has also a case where the autopatrolled group is internally called 'autoreviewer'.

Jan 8 2015, 5:36 AM · Wikimedia-Site-requests

Dec 10 2014

Vogone committed rEWBA18c93ecaec4a: Add i18n for the 'item-redirect' user right (authored by Vogone).
Add i18n for the 'item-redirect' user right
Dec 10 2014, 7:19 PM
Vogone committed rEWMEd2934d07521c: Adjust 'wikidata-staff' group page i18n (authored by Vogone).
Adjust 'wikidata-staff' group page i18n
Dec 10 2014, 7:03 PM
Vogone committed rEWMEb3a459375b68: Add i18n for new 'wikidata-staff' user group (authored by Vogone).
Add i18n for new 'wikidata-staff' user group
Dec 10 2014, 7:03 PM
Vogone committed rEWMEf54760526f03: Standardise and update global group names (authored by Vogone).
Standardise and update global group names
Dec 10 2014, 7:03 PM
Vogone committed rEWME1d16fce7fb18: Add i18n for 'global-renamer' user group (authored by Vogone).
Add i18n for 'global-renamer' user group
Dec 10 2014, 7:03 PM
Vogone committed rEGBL08ff2c00ea0d: Add full stops where needed to i18n (authored by Vogone).
Add full stops where needed to i18n
Dec 10 2014, 4:55 PM
Vogone committed rEGCJcfbad48b784e: Tiny i18n fix (authored by Vogone).
Tiny i18n fix
Dec 10 2014, 4:52 PM

Dec 2 2014

Vogone closed T76357: New namespace "Flexion" for de.wiktionary as Resolved.
Dec 2 2014, 7:36 PM · Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests
Vogone closed T76355: New import sources for dewikivoyage as Resolved.
Dec 2 2014, 7:35 PM · Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests

Dec 1 2014

Vogone claimed T76357: New namespace "Flexion" for de.wiktionary.
Dec 1 2014, 9:54 PM · Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests
Vogone created T76355: New import sources for dewikivoyage.
Dec 1 2014, 5:14 PM · Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests