The Phab

Yes, even then I still have this issue.

In T355746#9485335, @matmarex wrote:

As I have already explained in your previous bug report (T353486#9409991), the display issue is caused by the Factotum tool that you have enabled. Please report the problem to its author, Alexis Jazz, or disable it (by removing this line in your common.js).

As you can see from the screenshots, some titles are odd while others aren't. Most titles are vertically displayed.

The MediaWiki Upload Wizard should have a general "Upload from URL" option, importing from (free) websites is a long and tedious job. The Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) could try to maintain two (2) separate MediaAiki Homload Wizards, one (1) for "Own work" files and one (1) for imported files. That, or it could try to make the selection clear at the beginning of the upload process (like it already does for Flickr files for certain users).

The vertical titles is only since this week, though I've been less active so it could have been earlier.

Ah thank you, @Kizule

This is actually a great idea 💡, it could also have a "Find a grave 🪦" feature that utilises Wikimedia Commons photographs of gravestones which could be connected through Wikidata. Such a sister project would have millions of possible uses, how can I support the creation of such a project?

If I'm the only one suffering from it then it's most likely a Bawl! / Factotum issue.

It's an "Advanced mobile mode" issue.

This could be a Factotum (formerly "Brawl!") Issue, I will contact its developer and see if it could be isolated.

I filmed it but I can't upload the movie.

This is not a browser issue, opening this link:

In T318465#8257412, @Aklapper wrote:

Advanced mobile mode

I assume that means enabling "Advanced mode" on https://m.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:MobileOptions (please always include full steps).

Ecosia browser (browser) .

I don't know what that is? Please provide a link to a download place for that web browser. Cannot reproduce a problem using Firefox 104.

Forgot to add the link above:

This also affects Wikidata and other MediaWiki wiki's:

My bad:

The example page is:

I don't know what user "Jon (WMF)'s" Wikimedia Phabricatoe account is, maybe someone can tag him / them to get their attention.

Note that modern mobile devices are probably powerful enough to load large pages, but many users from developing countries probably have cheaper mobile telephones, which is why this feature would probably be better if "the top pencil ✏️" gives a user a choice rather than assuming their choice.

I've been wanting to suggest this for years as the events that lead to my global lock began because of an issue of not knowing how to do this on mobile, my suggestion for this would be that if you're on mobile the pencil ✏️ now has "a small triangle" and if you click on it it would ask "Edit lead - Edit full page", this way mobile users would have the ability to edit what. For large pages this won't cause an issue if a mobile user only wants to edit the top of the page. I still can't believe that the WMF is finally adopting this idea, it just seems so surreal.

See also this comment:

Do these limitations to mobile telephones from 2016 STILL apply to Mobile telephones in 2021? Half a decade has passed and technology marches on. I don't get why Wikipedia has to stay behind.

Why are these navigational templates not displayed on mobile? Who decided this? Where can I find the conversation that lead to this?

Permanent link here:

I think that it would be unwise to disable DPL, perhaps it would be better to slow down the query of imports to prevent another failure like this so the imports still work (but slower), while other Wikimedia websites won't be affected.

Should we create a separate task for Wikidata and Wikimedia Commons?

I often upload from eBay and fully agree with this, it's not rare that highly valuable images from eBay are lost forever because nobody bothered importing them. Such a tool should not be limited to eBay, there are many auction websites and there are many general websites, in my opinion we should have a tool like Flickr2Commons that can import from all websites, but if copyright issues from new users are concerned then limit it to users with a set number of non-deleted uploads or all users with 1000 (one-thousand) edits and upon request for those that fail to meet this threshold.
A general-purpose tool would really be handy, it's such a shame that we don't have a Community Tech Wishlist like the German-language Wikipedia has for Wikimedia Commons.
The tool should require manual review and not bot-review and users with a thousand or so upload could be bot-reviewed, or it could just rely on copyright © tags. Anyhow, I think that a bot should make a gallery per website (and/or per user) like with YouTube imports, and it could suggest pages to be imported to encourage more imports. It should be customisable so users can bulk import from multiple pages.

Wby are categories only visible for logged in users? They serve as a navigational tool for the readers, not only as an exclusive maintenance tool for editors. It has always baffled me how unusable the mobile website is for most casual readers, I have actually had friends complain when I link them with the "m." URL's because many handy features available for people that only read Wikipedia aren't available to them then.

Where to discuss such a thing then?

This happened in a really short time after the whole IRC debacle, why can't there be a Phabricator hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation? A big issue is also all the links to Phabricator tasks in Wikimedia archives as a lot of discussions happened on this website rather than any other.

Note that I do not have this display error on other platforms...

You can reproduce this by using a Microsoft Windows 10 Mobile device and then using the Microsoft Edge web browser, then go to the screenshotted pages and you will see this issue.

And I also have it on "Mobile 📱":

It affects multiple Wikimedia websites:

@Aklapper , I can't participate in the discussion there and judging by how my last unblock request went I am sure that I won't be able to ever discuss anything there again.

I also fully support the move to IRC.Wikimedia.org over any other third (3rd) party options, I am sure that these projects have enough tech savvy volunteers that can set the server up and do it properly. Just because they aren't running as a read-and-write IRC today doesn't mean that they can't tomorrow.

I don't think that this would be wise to do, local bureaucrats are responsible to local communities, they have the mandate of the project they operate on and the chance of abuse is really small. I highly doubt that this would improve anything, in fact the opposite might happen.

Not sure if this is the place where I can leave feedback, but personally I think that the current Beta features for mobile should probably be visible to all editors, including not signed in mobile editors. As mobile devices have already overtaken desktops and laptops globally it is quite likely that people entering Wikimedia websites do so on a mobile device. It is quite egregious that the "standard mobile website" actively hides both editing and discussion features. There is no way to find a talk page on mobile unless you're signed in, furthermore, the mobile browser also doesn't allow entire pages to be edited unless you specifically know that you can manually turn "editor/1" into "editor/all" in the URL while editing.

Why only for logged in users? A lot of my friends that read but do not edit Wikipedia use categories to navigate related topics, there really isn't much use to making non-signed in mobile users complete second class citizens of Wikimedia websites (as is already the case), you don't need an account to view categories on desktop mode, this would probably be best if it were added to ALL mobile users' interface, would probably also require less maintenance.

This was actually already present in another version of the mobile editor, this version is superior in every way as it is basically just the desktop editor but mobile, unfortunately the technical team removed it either last year or the year before. You can still kind of access it by clicking on "Edit" in desktop mode, then click on "Mobile view" and it should be visible for half a second before it switches to the annoying version of the mobile editor. See the example below.

My bad, it's fixed on mobile too now, just found it odd that it displayed differently on desktop and mobile as I had previously attempted both, but the issue seems fully resolved on my side too.

It is ONLY fixed in desktop mode, while using mobile mode it still displays the initial error.

Not sure if the bug fix is deployed yet, but I'm still experiencing this bug on my side (Ecosia 78.0. 3904.96). 😕

My bad, I didn't know that was an option, now I know for the future 🔮. Thanks for informing me.

I am using Google Android with the Ecosia browser and have the exact same issue, both on mobile mode and desktop mode. Please see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265578 for screenshots, my menus are even more narrow.

Duplicate of https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265560

For context, I have this issue on an Android device running the latest updates, I use the Ecosia browser, and have not altered my settings since yesterday, so I presume that the bug is at Wikimedia Commonns' part. Furthermore, I haven't tested it on any other devices.

A bit more screenshots :

It's fixed. Thank you all for your amazing work. 😊

Update, this also applies to Wikimedia Commons.

Notice the link "Presentation coin" (a special type of coin in Chinese culture countries akin to a European commemorative medal), which is a red-link in desktop, but a blue-link in desktop mode.

For context, I have this issue on Microsoft Windows 10 Mobile (Microsoft Edge - Microsoft Lumia 950 XL) and Google's Android OS (Ecosia browser - Elephone P8 Mini), so this is not limited to either one device, one operating system, or one browser. Let's see if anyone else can reproduce this on their devices.

Blue link in the "Mobile" mode.

Thank you everyone who worked on this. 😊

I could see "the edit pencil ✏" again, I think since yesterday. Thanks everyone for your hard work "behind the curtains", keep being awesome. 😉

@Kipod , thanks for creating the (provisional) solution.

I forgot to note that I do see them on the top of the page, just not anywhere else.

Yes, thank you, it's these instructions work. 😊

@jrbs Wouldn't this technically be handy for final warnings? Though it probably wouldn't be that beneficial for users, but it could show the seriousness of a warning.

Also notice that there is no button for editing the entire section, only adding to a discussion. Another problem this adds is that if there is vandalism in a section you can't easily remove it either using this annoying user interface.

Simply go to any user talk page on Wikimedia Commons, for example:

I don't get why the Wikimedia Foundation doesn't just implement this by default, what would we truly lose if partial blocks were implemented? Admins aren’t forced to use them when they don't want to, “giving the community a choice” just means that they (we) could prevent something that's a net benefit to it.

There is currently an ongoing discussion about this feature at the village pump, for the discussion as of writing this please see this link:

Is there any idea on when the Wikimedia websites will act normally again? Oddly enough I only had this issue with Microsoft Edge and not with the Ecosia browser while using them at the same time, could this have a technical reason?

I only get the "Can't load website" screen, I didn't take any screenshots as when I can do I can't create a new task for the Phabricator.

Originally proposed by @Alexis_Jazz on May 25th (twenty-fifth), @Majora asked "Can't anyone with interface admin rights and a knowledge of javascript do this?" (as in enabling it).

Thanks, it worked. Though the categories aren't immediately visible, it is better than nothing.

Yeah, I meant to add how I navigate as an addendum to the above comment but was distracted by something IRL.