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Fri, Nov 27

Zache added a comment to T249293: Prevent DiscussionTools from being enabled on pages they should not be.

In finnish wikipedia there is two use cases for disabling the links because the page is archived or project page. Currently there is no known problems with this except that the css is custom local change.

Fri, Nov 27, 8:45 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools

Thu, Nov 26

ppelberg updated the task description for T267379: Identify wiki candidates for A/B test.
Thu, Nov 26, 1:33 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg moved T267379: Identify wiki candidates for A/B test from Needs Discussion / Investigation to Ready for Sign Off on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Thu, Nov 26, 1:18 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg edited projects for T267379: Identify wiki candidates for A/B test, added: Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board); removed Editing-team.
Thu, Nov 26, 1:18 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg updated subscribers of T267379: Identify wiki candidates for A/B test.

Task description update
I've updated the task description's ===Selection requirements and ===Candidate wikis sections to include the wikis we will approach about participating in the A/B test and the criteria we used to define this list of wikis. cc @Whatamidoing-WMF

Thu, Nov 26, 1:17 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg updated the task description for T267379: Identify wiki candidates for A/B test.
Thu, Nov 26, 1:17 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg added a subtask for T249579: [EPIC] Visual enhancements: make the actions, activity and content within talk pages easier to understand: T268781: Plan a multi-day sprint to kick off Visual Refresh of Talk Pages Work.
Thu, Nov 26, 12:01 AM · Editing Design, DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020
ppelberg added a parent task for T268781: Plan a multi-day sprint to kick off Visual Refresh of Talk Pages Work: T249579: [EPIC] Visual enhancements: make the actions, activity and content within talk pages easier to understand.
Thu, Nov 26, 12:01 AM · OWC2020, Editing Design

Wed, Nov 25

ppelberg claimed T267381: Publish A/B test rationale on mediawiki.org.
Wed, Nov 25, 9:32 PM · DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020
ppelberg updated the task description for T267381: Publish A/B test rationale on mediawiki.org.
Wed, Nov 25, 9:26 PM · DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020
iamjessklein updated the task description for T268781: Plan a multi-day sprint to kick off Visual Refresh of Talk Pages Work.
Wed, Nov 25, 6:43 PM · OWC2020, Editing Design
iamjessklein created T268781: Plan a multi-day sprint to kick off Visual Refresh of Talk Pages Work.
Wed, Nov 25, 6:43 PM · OWC2020, Editing Design
ppelberg closed T259572: [Technical research] What discussion-specific notifications do people currently receive?, a subtask of T233447: [Epic] Increase response rates, as Resolved.
Wed, Nov 25, 4:48 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg closed T259572: [Technical research] What discussion-specific notifications do people currently receive? as Resolved.

Spreadsheet with the above notification types, when they're triggered, and what their text looks like in English: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MbLZKCc2Yy3q90Y78qSxUtBLLyGAzUm2oDHMeXVYq8g/edit

This is precisely the information we were seeking – thank you for bringing this all together, @Catrope. This work will inform the broader investigation we are doing in: T266203.

Wed, Nov 25, 4:48 PM · Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg updated the task description for T266203: [SPIKE] Map Junior Contributors' current notification experience.
Wed, Nov 25, 4:37 PM · Editing Design, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg updated subscribers of T266203: [SPIKE] Map Junior Contributors' current notification experience.

Task description update
I've updated the task description to include the updated Notification spreadsheet @Catrope created in T259572#6615268.

Wed, Nov 25, 4:29 PM · Editing Design, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg updated the task description for T266203: [SPIKE] Map Junior Contributors' current notification experience.
Wed, Nov 25, 4:19 PM · Editing Design, DiscussionTools, OWC2020

Tue, Nov 24

ppelberg closed T268093: [Regression] Reply link stops working after posting multiple comments as Resolved.
Tue, Nov 24, 2:46 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.20; 2020-12-01), Regression, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools

Mon, Nov 23

Ryasmeen moved T268093: [Regression] Reply link stops working after posting multiple comments from QA to Ready for Sign Off on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Mon, Nov 23, 8:31 PM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.20; 2020-12-01), Regression, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
Ryasmeen edited projects for T268093: [Regression] Reply link stops working after posting multiple comments , added: Verified; removed Editing QA.
Mon, Nov 23, 8:31 PM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.20; 2020-12-01), Regression, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
ppelberg moved T268093: [Regression] Reply link stops working after posting multiple comments from Inbox to High Priority on the Editing QA board.
Mon, Nov 23, 7:37 PM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.20; 2020-12-01), Regression, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
matmarex moved T268093: [Regression] Reply link stops working after posting multiple comments from Code Review to QA on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.

Should be working correctly now (on Beta), please check!

Mon, Nov 23, 4:37 PM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.20; 2020-12-01), Regression, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
ppelberg moved T262107: [SPIKE] How might we categorize talk page edits at scale? from Ready for Development to Needs Discussion / Investigation on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.

This task needs more details; I will fill them in and then move this back to "Ready for development."

Mon, Nov 23, 4:34 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg updated the task description for T262107: [SPIKE] How might we categorize talk page edits at scale?.
Mon, Nov 23, 4:34 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020

Sun, Nov 22

Maintenance_bot removed a project from T268093: [Regression] Reply link stops working after posting multiple comments : Patch-For-Review.
Sun, Nov 22, 11:10 PM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.20; 2020-12-01), Regression, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
ReleaseTaggerBot added a project to T268093: [Regression] Reply link stops working after posting multiple comments : MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.20; 2020-12-01).
Sun, Nov 22, 11:00 PM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.20; 2020-12-01), Regression, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
gerritbot added a comment to T268093: [Regression] Reply link stops working after posting multiple comments .

Change 641810 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/extensions/DiscussionTools@master] Fix client-side IDs for indistinguishable comments

Sun, Nov 22, 10:39 PM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.20; 2020-12-01), Regression, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools

Sat, Nov 21

ppelberg added a subtask for T249579: [EPIC] Visual enhancements: make the actions, activity and content within talk pages easier to understand: T265750: Make it easy to "outdent" by changing the colons/list level.
Sat, Nov 21, 12:35 AM · Editing Design, DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020

Fri, Nov 20

ppelberg updated the task description for T268191: Implement A/B test bucketing.
Fri, Nov 20, 11:43 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg updated subscribers of T268191: Implement A/B test bucketing.

Task description update

Have not used the Reply Tool before.

  • In this context, "used" is being defined as people who have initiated (read: reached init) the Reply Tool before.

During yesterday's team meeting, @DLynch and @Esanders shared that it is not possible to use whether someone has caused an init event to be emitted as a proxy for whether they have used the Reply Tool before or not.

Fri, Nov 20, 11:42 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg closed T265762: Publish project page, a subtask of T233447: [Epic] Increase response rates, as Resolved.
Fri, Nov 20, 6:34 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg closed T265762: Publish project page as Resolved.

Done: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk_pages_project/Notifications&oldid=4242450

Fri, Nov 20, 6:34 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020

Thu, Nov 19

Ryasmeen added a comment to T268093: [Regression] Reply link stops working after posting multiple comments .

There is another funny problem on that page: autosaved replies become attached to wrong comments.

E.g. try replying to the last comment:


Refresh the page:

The reply is now under a different comment:

Notably, the comments are both posted at the same time. There is clearly some problem in our code for distinguishing these comments.

@Ryasmeen Did you see this on any "real" pages, or only on test pages where you posted a lot of comments yourself?

Thu, Nov 19, 7:11 PM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.20; 2020-12-01), Regression, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
ppelberg added a subtask for T263820: Use case #2: Ensure people are aware when something new is said in a conversation they are following: T2738: Ability to watch section levels of pages.
Thu, Nov 19, 2:26 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020

Wed, Nov 18

ppelberg moved T268193: Verify A/B test events are being logged and emitted as expected from Backlog to Analytics on the Editing-team (Tracking) board.
Wed, Nov 18, 11:27 PM · Editing-team (Tracking), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg created T268193: Verify A/B test events are being logged and emitted as expected.
Wed, Nov 18, 11:27 PM · Editing-team (Tracking), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg moved T268191: Implement A/B test bucketing from Needs Discussion / Investigation to Upcoming on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Wed, Nov 18, 11:21 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg added a comment to T268191: Implement A/B test bucketing.

Task description update
Today, @MNeisler and I talked about the A/B test's bucketing criteria [i] which are now reflected in the task description's ===Bucketing criteria section.

Wed, Nov 18, 11:20 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg updated the task description for T268191: Implement A/B test bucketing.
Wed, Nov 18, 11:18 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg created T268191: Implement A/B test bucketing.
Wed, Nov 18, 11:12 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
matmarex moved T268093: [Regression] Reply link stops working after posting multiple comments from Ready for Development to Code Review on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Wed, Nov 18, 6:48 PM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.20; 2020-12-01), Regression, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
gerritbot added a project to T268093: [Regression] Reply link stops working after posting multiple comments : Patch-For-Review.
Wed, Nov 18, 6:48 PM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.20; 2020-12-01), Regression, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
gerritbot added a comment to T268093: [Regression] Reply link stops working after posting multiple comments .

Change 641810 had a related patch set uploaded (by Bartosz Dziewoński; owner: Bartosz Dziewoński):
[mediawiki/extensions/DiscussionTools@master] Fix client-side IDs for indistinguishable comments

Wed, Nov 18, 6:48 PM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.20; 2020-12-01), Regression, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
matmarex added a comment to T268093: [Regression] Reply link stops working after posting multiple comments .

There is another funny problem on that page: autosaved replies become attached to wrong comments.

Wed, Nov 18, 6:14 PM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.20; 2020-12-01), Regression, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
ppelberg moved T259572: [Technical research] What discussion-specific notifications do people currently receive? from Blocked / Needs More Work to Ready for Sign Off on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Wed, Nov 18, 3:49 PM · Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
Nenany added a comment to T268093: [Regression] Reply link stops working after posting multiple comments .
Wed, Nov 18, 2:36 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.20; 2020-12-01), Regression, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
DannyS712 added a project to T268093: [Regression] Reply link stops working after posting multiple comments : Regression.
Wed, Nov 18, 1:18 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.20; 2020-12-01), Regression, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
ppelberg moved T268093: [Regression] Reply link stops working after posting multiple comments from Needs Discussion / Investigation to Ready for Development on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Wed, Nov 18, 12:27 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.20; 2020-12-01), Regression, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
ppelberg added a project to T268093: [Regression] Reply link stops working after posting multiple comments : Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board).
Wed, Nov 18, 12:27 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.20; 2020-12-01), Regression, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
Ryasmeen added a project to T268093: [Regression] Reply link stops working after posting multiple comments : OWC2020.
Wed, Nov 18, 12:27 AM · User-Ryasmeen, Verified, MW-1.36-notes (1.36.0-wmf.20; 2020-12-01), Regression, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools

Tue, Nov 17

ppelberg closed T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki, a subtask of T264691: Enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on "Phase 2" wikis , as Resolved.
Tue, Nov 17, 2:44 AM · Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020
ppelberg closed T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki as Resolved.
Tue, Nov 17, 2:44 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg closed T266303: Enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on "Phase 3" wikis , a subtask of T259315: Deploy Reply Tool as Beta Features to all Wikipedias, as Resolved.
Tue, Nov 17, 2:44 AM · Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020

Mon, Nov 16

ppelberg updated the task description for T252057: Run A/B test to evaluate impact of Reply tool .
Mon, Nov 16, 11:47 PM · DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020

Sat, Nov 14

Esanders assigned T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki to matmarex.
Sat, Nov 14, 2:38 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020

Tue, Nov 10

ppelberg added a comment to T266203: [SPIKE] Map Junior Contributors' current notification experience.

I'm happy to do the approach that you provided.

Cool cool.

I still feel the need to document the meta workflow at some point. Is there a ticket to do that somewhere else?

Here's one: T267657.

Tue, Nov 10, 4:48 PM · Editing Design, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
Catrope added a comment to T259572: [Technical research] What discussion-specific notifications do people currently receive?.

Another relevant piece of information is that some notification types supersede others. There is no systematic guarantee that the same event/edit/comment won't result in multiple notifications being sent to the same user, but we do try to make it that way through these supersedence rules:

Tue, Nov 10, 2:32 AM · Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
Catrope added a comment to T259572: [Technical research] What discussion-specific notifications do people currently receive?.

Spreadsheet with the above notification types, when they're triggered, and what their text looks like in English: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MbLZKCc2Yy3q90Y78qSxUtBLLyGAzUm2oDHMeXVYq8g/edit

Tue, Nov 10, 2:12 AM · Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020

Mon, Nov 9

Catrope added a comment to T259572: [Technical research] What discussion-specific notifications do people currently receive?.

@Catrope does this spreadsheet accurately and exhaustively capture all of the notifications people could receive triggered by events on flow or wikitext talk pages?

Mon, Nov 9, 9:35 PM · Growth-Team (Current Sprint), Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
PerfektesChaos added a comment to T249293: Prevent DiscussionTools from being enabled on pages they should not be.

There is no need to grab sourcecode.

  • Both nonewsectionlink and noeditsection are pageprops.
  • They might be retrieved via API in advance, leaving the tool immediately.
Mon, Nov 9, 2:30 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
matmarex moved T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki from Ready for Development to Ready for Sign Off on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Mon, Nov 9, 12:11 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
Maintenance_bot removed a project from T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki: Patch-For-Review.
Mon, Nov 9, 12:10 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
Stashbot added a comment to T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki.

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2020-11-09T12:05:58Z] <urbanecm@deploy1001> Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: 87b3eede24fb407ddd226ad65817ab8adf44aeb8: Enable DiscussionTools as a beta feature on fiwiki (T265446) (duration: 01m 06s)

Mon, Nov 9, 12:06 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
gerritbot added a comment to T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki.

Change 640088 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Enable DiscussionTools as a beta feature on fiwiki

Mon, Nov 9, 12:02 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
matmarex added a comment to T249293: Prevent DiscussionTools from being enabled on pages they should not be.

So, this is technically easy to implement, we could easily do it by recognizing a magic word like __NOREPLYLINKS__ (to disable on entire page), and/or by recognizing CSS classes like <div class="noreplylinks">…</div> (to disable in a fragment of the page).

Mon, Nov 9, 10:18 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
matmarex added a comment to T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki.

Scheduled for today: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments#deploycal-item-20201109T1200

Mon, Nov 9, 10:10 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
gerritbot added a project to T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki: Patch-For-Review.
Mon, Nov 9, 10:09 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
gerritbot added a comment to T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki.

Change 640088 had a related patch set uploaded (by Bartosz Dziewoński; owner: Bartosz Dziewoński):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Enable DiscussionTools as a beta feature on fiwiki

Mon, Nov 9, 10:09 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020

Sat, Nov 7

ppelberg moved T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki from Upcoming to Ready for Development on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Sat, Nov 7, 3:34 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020

Fri, Nov 6

ppelberg updated subscribers of T252057: Run A/B test to evaluate impact of Reply tool .

Task description update
I've updated ===Hypotheses section to the task description which contains the metrics we will use to compare the two test groups and by extension, determine the impact the Reply Tool is having on Junior Contributor activation and retention.

Fri, Nov 6, 11:48 PM · DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020
ppelberg updated the task description for T252057: Run A/B test to evaluate impact of Reply tool .
Fri, Nov 6, 11:45 PM · DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020
ppelberg added a subtask for T249579: [EPIC] Visual enhancements: make the actions, activity and content within talk pages easier to understand: T267444: Make the affordance(s) for adding a new topic easier to identify and access.
Fri, Nov 6, 9:30 PM · Editing Design, DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020
ppelberg closed T245890: Enable DiscussionTools on pages where `__NEWSECTIONLINK__` is present, a subtask of T251653: [Epic] Enable DiscussionTools on pages not in a talk namespace, as Resolved.
Fri, Nov 6, 3:00 AM · Editing-team, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg closed T245890: Enable DiscussionTools on pages where `__NEWSECTIONLINK__` is present as Resolved.
Fri, Nov 6, 3:00 AM · Skipped QA, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.27; 2020-04-07), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
ppelberg moved T267382: Inform candidate wikis of A/B test from Backlog to Community Engagement on the Editing-team (Tracking) board.
Fri, Nov 6, 12:49 AM · Editing-team (Tracking), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg created T267382: Inform candidate wikis of A/B test.
Fri, Nov 6, 12:49 AM · Editing-team (Tracking), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg created T267381: Publish A/B test rationale on mediawiki.org.
Fri, Nov 6, 12:43 AM · DiscussionTools, Editing-team, OWC2020
ppelberg created T267379: Identify wiki candidates for A/B test.
Fri, Nov 6, 12:26 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020

Thu, Nov 5

ppelberg moved T245890: Enable DiscussionTools on pages where `__NEWSECTIONLINK__` is present from QA to Ready for Sign Off on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Thu, Nov 5, 10:56 PM · Skipped QA, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.27; 2020-04-07), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
ppelberg edited projects for T245890: Enable DiscussionTools on pages where `__NEWSECTIONLINK__` is present, added: Skipped QA; removed Editing QA.
Thu, Nov 5, 10:56 PM · Skipped QA, Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.27; 2020-04-07), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
Esanders added a comment to T249293: Prevent DiscussionTools from being enabled on pages they should not be.

What do we estimate to be the rate of pages that contain NONEWSECTIONLINKsyntax and do not contain discussions?

Thu, Nov 5, 1:16 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
ppelberg edited projects for T249293: Prevent DiscussionTools from being enabled on pages they should not be, added: Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board); removed Editing-team (Tracking).
Thu, Nov 5, 4:39 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
ppelberg updated the task description for T249293: Prevent DiscussionTools from being enabled on pages they should not be.
Thu, Nov 5, 4:34 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
ppelberg moved T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki from Blocked / Needs More Work to Upcoming on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Thu, Nov 5, 12:18 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg added a comment to T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki.

Deployment timing
Assuming no blocking issues are raised in response to the comment @Whatamidoing-WMF and I posted at fi.wiki [i], the Reply Tool should be made available as a Beta Feature at fi.wiki.

Thu, Nov 5, 12:17 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg added a comment to T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki.

@Zache, the additional context you shared in T265446#6583858 is helpful – thank you.

Thu, Nov 5, 12:14 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg added a comment to T249293: Prevent DiscussionTools from being enabled on pages they should not be.

Task description update
Adding use cases mentioned by @Urbanecm and @Zache to the task description's newly-created ===Use cases section.

Thu, Nov 5, 12:11 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
ppelberg updated the task description for T249293: Prevent DiscussionTools from being enabled on pages they should not be.
Thu, Nov 5, 12:11 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
ppelberg added a subtask for T249293: Prevent DiscussionTools from being enabled on pages they should not be: T260066: Timestamps connected with usernames are wrongly understood to be discussion posts.
Thu, Nov 5, 12:09 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), OWC2020, DiscussionTools
ppelberg added a parent task for T260066: Timestamps connected with usernames are wrongly understood to be discussion posts: T249293: Prevent DiscussionTools from being enabled on pages they should not be.
Thu, Nov 5, 12:09 AM · Editing-team (Tracking), OWC2020, DiscussionTools

Wed, Nov 4

ppelberg removed a subtask for T265446: Make config change to enable Reply Tool as Beta Feature on fi.wiki: T265291: The tool should add a blank line before comment.
Wed, Nov 4, 11:59 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), Beta-Feature, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
JTannerWMF added a comment to T262107: [SPIKE] How might we categorize talk page edits at scale?.

@Esanders confimed this should be good to go. One thing he mentioned is the need to add additional logging to ensure there aren't additional performance regressions. Will need to understand what tags we want to use, and if we use that tag for all replies or just non-DiscussionTools replies.

Wed, Nov 4, 6:51 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg moved T262107: [SPIKE] How might we categorize talk page edits at scale? from Upcoming to Ready for Development on the Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board) board.
Wed, Nov 4, 5:52 PM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020

Tue, Nov 3

iamjessklein added a comment to T266203: [SPIKE] Map Junior Contributors' current notification experience.

I'm happy to do the approach that you provided. I still feel the need to
document the meta workflow at some point. Is there a ticket to do that
somewhere else?

Tue, Nov 3, 12:49 PM · Editing Design, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg added a comment to T266203: [SPIKE] Map Junior Contributors' current notification experience.

Notes from the conversation @iamjessklein and I had earlier today...
As Jess and I were talking today, it became clear that we had slightly different definitions in mind for what "notifications" means/refers to in the context of this task:

  • For Jess, she understood "notifications" as any point throughout a Junior or Senior Contributors' journey (defined in T247763) where another person and/or the "system" is talking to you.
  • For me (Peter), I understood "notifications" as any point when another person is talking directly to you.
Tue, Nov 3, 1:11 AM · Editing Design, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg updated the task description for T233447: [Epic] Increase response rates.
Tue, Nov 3, 12:46 AM · Editing-team (FY2020-21 Kanban Board), DiscussionTools, OWC2020

Mon, Nov 2

iamjessklein added a comment to T266203: [SPIKE] Map Junior Contributors' current notification experience.

For the purpose of this research, I am going to use the following links:

Mon, Nov 2, 8:31 PM · Editing Design, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
ppelberg added a comment to T266203: [SPIKE] Map Junior Contributors' current notification experience.

@ppelberg - Can you give me edit access to the notifications spreadsheet doc? I would like to add a page to it for the user experience of notifications so that it's all in one place.

Mon, Nov 2, 4:19 PM · Editing Design, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
iamjessklein moved T266203: [SPIKE] Map Junior Contributors' current notification experience from 📢 To Do to 📐 Doing on the Editing Design board.
Mon, Nov 2, 3:37 PM · Editing Design, DiscussionTools, OWC2020
iamjessklein added a comment to T266203: [SPIKE] Map Junior Contributors' current notification experience.

@ppelberg - Can you give me edit access to the notifications spreadsheet doc? I would like to add a page to it for the user experience of notifications so that it's all in one place.

Mon, Nov 2, 2:38 PM · Editing Design, DiscussionTools, OWC2020