why is this mentor assigned to them? is it self-assigned? is it random?

Assigning a mentor/mentee can be cool, for instance for newbies I came to contact in another way than the mentorship module (deleted an article they created, for instance).

@MMiller_WMF I have followed the updates on T220145, and designed two solutions:

1. Less mentor's data
   • intro text
   • mentor pic or avatar icon (with green dot overlay if mentor is online)
   • mentor name
   • mentor number of edits
   • last time mentor was active
   • mentor's sentence

1. More mentor's data (I noticed that more personal data is featured for teahouse hosts)
   • intro text
   • mentor pic or avatar icon (with green dot overlay if mentor is online)
   • mentor name
   • last time mentor was active
   • collapsible info (shown on first visit):
     • mentor's sentence
     • mentor's registration date
     • mentor's number of edits
     • mentor's badges

In order to also make the mobile homepage overview of the mentorship module more comprehensible, it's been slightly re-designed to display an intro text until the user has asked a question.

Proposed mockups:

Specifications:

• The intro text will be removed after the user has asked their first question to their mentor

@MMiller_WMF Shall we make a separate task for this?

Thanks for exploring this space, @Cntlsn. Taking all this together, there's a set of things I think we should do in the near term, and we can leave the rest for future iterations (if the mentorship module turns out to be valuable):

• Reword the explanatory sentence to say, "All newcomers are assigned an experienced mentor to help them edit."
• Use the explanatory sentence in the mobile preview until the user asks a question.
• Implement the indented, quoted, and italicized style for the work in T220145.

How does this sound?

One thing that looked strange to me -- having the explanatory sentence above the mentor's username and avatar. Do you think it might look better placed under the username, but above the mentor's quote?

@MMiller_WMF Ok, sounds good to me. Please see my comments below:

One thing that looked strange to me -- having the explanatory sentence above the mentor's username and avatar. Do you think it might look better placed under the username, but above the mentor's quote?

This is how the module would look like with the explanatory sentence squeezed between the mentor data area and the mentor quote

• in terms of meaning I see the explanatory sentence as an intro to the content of the module, hence it would make sense to place it as the first thing
  • this is also reflected by the fact that we use it as an intro in the module overview on mobile, where it would be weird to see it placed at the top in the overview and then within other content in the fullscreen version
• layout wise I think having the explanatory sentence at the top makes things more readable -- when the users scan the module from top to bottom / left to right they see 1 what the module is about 2 who their mentor is 3 mentor's sentence 4 CTA -- whereas having it in between the content creates a contiguous block of text (== hard to read)
• I think the new copy doesn't really work well with the placement in between content related to the mentor. Basically the user is already into mentor's specific content [micro scale], while the explanatory sentence refers to a global rule [macro scale].

@MMiller_WMF
Mockups are up-to-date in both InVision
Desktop https://wikimedia.invisionapp.com/share/KUQV2QDJ8A7#/350928124_NH-Mentorship_Module
Mobile https://wikimedia.invisionapp.com/share/KUQV2QDJ8A7#/366224375_NH-Mentorship_Module_Mobile

and Zeplin.

@MMiller_WMF
I'm actually a bit divided on this. I like the idea of removing text in general, but considering the feedback we received from the user test (some users wondering why they got a mentor) I think in this case the intro text will actually be helpful on the first visit. And it would anyway be removed after the user has asked a question to their mentor, so the module would potentially display more text only on the first visit (or few visits, until there is user interaction).

Anyway, this how it would look like on desktop with the treatment you suggested:

Talking about reducing the amount of text, I would actually be more concerned about the mentor's sentence not being really relevant after the user has asked a question, and taking quite some space when there are questions listed under "Your recent questions". To solve that, I had previously designed this solution:

@RHo -- tagging you here because this is the parent task that represents the change to the mentorship module you mocked up in this page while we planned for newcomer tasks. When you've settled on a design for this, we can make this task ready for development.

In T223215#5481386, @MMiller_WMF wrote:

@RHo -- tagging you here because this is the parent task that represents the change to the mentorship module you mocked up in this page while we planned for newcomer tasks. When you've settled on a design for this, we can make this task ready for development.

Hiya, the change I mocked only really covers this child ticket T229802, so let's make that task ready for dev.