Agree, this would be super useful.

(Do we have a bug somewhere for deploying Translate extension on Wikimedia Commons? This would be (partially) related.)

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(Do we have a bug somewhere for deploying Translate extension on Wikimedia
Commons? This would be (partially) related.)

If you believe there's consensus for that, you should file it.

For reference, translate extension is now on commons, so that is no longer blocking this.

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For reference, translate extension is now on commons, so that is no longer
blocking this.

That's never been a blocker, just an incidental observation.
For now we're stuck at whether TMH should be adapted to Translate (i.e. learn to use subpages) or Translate to TMH (learning to use some new format to be invented). See bug 42790.

Hi everyone,

I just filled these captions in:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/TimedText:What_is_Wikipedia_Zero%3F.webm.en.srt
and I'd like to be able to mark these captions for translation, like how WP & Meta pages themselves could be translated

Hi the translation are updated by the translate extension if you mean translating mwembedmodules then that is also translated currently we are moving from using kaultra player to a more modern player.

Thank you for the update :)

I re-purposed this bug to be an epic/tracker for subtitle translation support with Translate. One of the goals of Language-Team of this quarter is to implement a basic support: only translation of the text, no tweaking of times, and video preview only if it is easy and time permits.

@Nikerabbit Please take note of T111651: Convert TimedText to make use of ContentHandler and the notes that brion has left there.

1. Do translators often tweak the timestamps?
2. Do translators often combine/split/add/delete units compared to the source language?
3. Do translators watch the video while or after translating?

1. Sometimes yes, because in some languages lines might be a lot longer, requiring you to show a certain fragment longer than it was actually spoken
2. For similar reasons as 1, yes they do. A good translator optimizes for consumption, not for literal translations. Because of that, sometimes the way a sentence is formed, requires you to move content into an earlier or later cue, or are much longer/shorter than in other languages and/or the original audio track.
3. For subtitles usually it is advised to preview per 'cue', and it can be very useful to preview the video a few seconds before and after the cue as well.

I've always wondered if for authoring we would be able to plug back into amara.org again (formerly universal subtitles). They have a dedicated online editor for subtitles with many of these functionalities.

In T44495#2757149, @TheDJ wrote:

I've always wondered if for authoring we would be able to plug back into amara.org again (formerly universal subtitles). They have a dedicated online editor for subtitles with many of these functionalities.

For reference, we used to − see T64699

@Amire80 @Nikerabbit Hey! As developer summit is less than four weeks from now, we are working on a plan to incorporate the ‘unconference sessions’ that have been proposed so far and would be generated on the spot. Thus, could you confirm if you plan to facilitate this session at the summit? Also, if your answer is 'YES,' I would like to encourage you to update/ arrange the task description fields to appear in the following format:

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We will be reaching out to the summit participants next week asking them to express their interest in unconference sessions by signing up.

To maintain the consistency, please consider referring to the template of the following task description: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149564.

No progress was made on this during the developer summit. Based on discussions elsewhere, I feel there are concerns that the proposed simple solution would be too limiting compared to the existing method. That sounds like more work is needed to define a MVP and implement it.

I feel there are concerns that the proposed simple solution would be too limiting compared to the existing method

What was the proposed simple solution?

That sounds like more work is needed to define a MVP and implement it.

The MVP is:

1. users are able to manually set a srt page up for translation;
2. translation admins are able to mark it and the translation page is compatible with TimedMediaHandler (e.g. no translate tags, agreement on page titles);
3. translators are able to translate the srt pages from Special:Translate and if they apply sufficient care the subtitles are used correctly (but if they don't something might break, e.g. if the timestamps get broken).