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Jan 14 2019

Kudpung added a comment to T157051: Implement an icon for patrolled pages that have maintenance tags in the New Pages Feed.

To save looking it up, the full text of this request is:
Pages that have been tagged for maintenance issues (but not for deletion) and are otherwise just acceptable for inclusion, should be shown not with the green 'checked' icon, but with an orange blob that contains a capital T. It should be obvious that this would enable admins who are patrolling the quality of the patrollers themselves rather than new pages, can immediately revert any tags that have been inappropriately or erroneously applied, and replace them with correct ones or use the 'unreview button' which should then send the 'unreviewed' message automatically to the patroler, using a dropdown list of canned reasons

Jan 14 2019, 1:39 AM · User-DannyS712, Growth-Team, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration

Nov 22 2018

Kudpung added a comment to T50552: Make PageTriage wiki agnostic.

I seem to recall that at the very beginning, 'Page Triage' was developed with the intention of it being 'agnostic' - that being the reason why it was built as a MediaWiki extension. @kaldari will know more. Whether or not other WMF projects use it, as they grow they will be needing something like it. In any case, with a bit of luck, all the requirements will be addressed following a successful poll at the Community Wish List. It could even be a reason to put a dedicated team on it.

Nov 22 2018, 4:26 AM · Growth-Team, Community-Wishlist-Survey-2015, I18n, PageCuration

Oct 23 2018

Kudpung added a comment to T124396: Allow moving to draftspace and tagging accordingly.

User:Evad37/MoveToDraft was written because of the WMF delay in writing it. It does everything the original request made since by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Czar on en.Wiki in 2015. It's since been requested by the community many, many times.
Can it now finally be added to the Curation Toolbar - primarily to restrict its use to the New Page Reviewer group to avoid its overuse/abuse by unqualified editors. Thanks.

Oct 23 2018, 1:15 PM · Growth-Team, PageCuration, Collaboration-Team-Triage

Jun 21 2018

Kudpung added a comment to T197732: New mail list for Signpost team.

Email of Editor-in-Chief: cs@edubkk.org

Jun 21 2018, 12:20 PM · Operations, Wikimedia-Mailing-lists

Jun 20 2018

Kudpung added a comment to T14363: Moved pages should be listed in NewPages/RecentChanges with current title, namespace, existence etc..

I'm a bit concerned as to why this is being referred to as Special:NewPages. The correct default New Page Patrol GUI is at Special:NewPagesFeed. Perhaps I'm missing something.

Jun 20 2018, 10:22 AM · Growth-Team, Community-Tech, Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-Recent-changes

May 11 2018

Kudpung added a comment to T124396: Allow moving to draftspace and tagging accordingly.

8 months and no comments?

May 11 2018, 11:34 PM · Growth-Team, PageCuration, Collaboration-Team-Triage
Kudpung added a comment to T189929: Add "previously deleted" as a possible issue in the New Pages Feed.

First requested 6 years ago, with the ACTRIAL now permanently rolled out last month as ACREQ, this is urgently required it is a known workaround for spammers and undeclared paid editors. Please have this included in the development work that ComTech is currently doing on the New Pages Feed.

May 11 2018, 11:16 PM · Community-Tech (Resolved 2018-19 Q4), MW-1.34-notes (1.34.0-wmf.7; 2019-05-28), Community-Tech-Sprint, Growth-Team, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration

Apr 27 2018

Kudpung added a comment to T192455: Permanently implement autoconfirmed-account-requirement for new article creation on en.wiki .

The en.Wiki is the Foundation's flagship project. Important things that need doing to it should take precedence whether they are 'scheduled' tasks or not

@Kudpung: Wrong. Feel free to discuss meta-level discussions in the appropriate places for meta-level discussions. mw:Phabricator_etiquette explains this.

Apr 27 2018, 3:36 AM · Community-Tech, MW-1.32-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-04-24 (1.32.0-wmf.1)), Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-extensions-ArticleCreationWorkflow, Wikimedia-Site-requests

Apr 25 2018

Kudpung added a comment to T192455: Permanently implement autoconfirmed-account-requirement for new article creation on en.wiki .

Thanks @kaldari. The en.Wiki is the Foundation's flagship project. Important things that need doing to it should take precedence whether they are 'scheduled' tasks or not.; this particular task has been forseen for a long time.
The research the WMF provided for ACTRIAL due to its urgency, and the work they doing for AfC as a follow up are enormously appreciated - especially by me - but even what happens for AfC depends entirely on the roll out of ACREQ.
Let's just get this thing on the road, please, and many thanks in advance for those who are doing it. It shouldn't be complicated.

Apr 25 2018, 11:18 PM · Community-Tech, MW-1.32-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-04-24 (1.32.0-wmf.1)), Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-extensions-ArticleCreationWorkflow, Wikimedia-Site-requests
Kudpung added a comment to T192455: Permanently implement autoconfirmed-account-requirement for new article creation on en.wiki .

@Aklapper @Urbanecm this is high priority. There is to be no more debate. The technical intervention to implement the trial was easy enough. Please be good enough proceed with this very quickly, Anything else would be pure procrastination and would damage the very fragile good relations that we have carefully groomed with the WMF recently, who spent a lot of money on the research, stats, and final analysis. Other urgent on-going community developments supported by the WMF depend on this being rolled out now.
Thanks.

Apr 25 2018, 9:36 AM · Community-Tech, MW-1.32-notes (WMF-deploy-2018-04-24 (1.32.0-wmf.1)), Patch-For-Review, MediaWiki-extensions-ArticleCreationWorkflow, Wikimedia-Site-requests

Apr 6 2018

Kudpung added a comment to T191656: PageCuration tool error: failed to apply tags to the page but still marks as reviewed.

Experienced this bug myself.

Apr 6 2018, 7:18 PM · Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-This-Quarter), PageCuration

Oct 24 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T158476: [Open Question] Automatically detecting accounts that do paid editing activity.

The signs of paid editing:

Oct 24 2017, 12:32 PM · Research-Backlog

Oct 3 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T157130: Display ORES draftquality model prediction in PageCuration feed.

The reasons are quite clear. While the page Curation and the New Pages Feed concept is vastly superior to Twinkle, and can have access limited to certain user groups, people won't use it due to it still not including some of the features of Twinkle and other features that would make patrolling even easier.

Oct 3 2017, 1:58 AM · Growth-Team, artificial-intelligence, Scoring-platform-team, Collaboration-Team-Triage, draftquality-modeling, ORES, PageCuration

Oct 1 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T50552: Make PageTriage wiki agnostic.

I don't know if this all is technically feasible.

Oct 1 2017, 9:57 AM · Growth-Team, Community-Wishlist-Survey-2015, I18n, PageCuration
Kudpung added a comment to T50552: Make PageTriage wiki agnostic.

Gergő Tisza, did you actually read what I posted? You are indeed using this task as the very reason for stalling all the other work that needs doing on Curation for en.Wiki that has already been posted for months on other Phab tasks. Your comments are really not helpful, but it's what we had already come to expect at Bugzila, and now at Phab.

Oct 1 2017, 8:56 AM · Growth-Team, Community-Wishlist-Survey-2015, I18n, PageCuration

Sep 30 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T50552: Make PageTriage wiki agnostic.

I am fully aware that this Phab task is due to a request on the Wishlist to port Curation to other-language Wiks. That's not why I am here. I am here because Wishlist rankings are being used as an excuse to not address the needs of the en.Wiki.

Sep 30 2017, 11:44 PM · Growth-Team, Community-Wishlist-Survey-2015, I18n, PageCuration
Kudpung added a comment to T50552: Make PageTriage wiki agnostic.

@Kudpung: I'm afraid most software development/design/research projects/teams won't be able to spontaneously drop any other plans for the next weeks. So your contributions are welcome as soon as possible please - like by the end of the year.

Sep 30 2017, 3:04 PM · Growth-Team, Community-Wishlist-Survey-2015, I18n, PageCuration
Kudpung added a comment to T50552: Make PageTriage wiki agnostic.

//In T50552#3529261, @kaldari wrote:

Sep 30 2017, 5:49 AM · Growth-Team, Community-Wishlist-Survey-2015, I18n, PageCuration

Sep 27 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T159028: Unpatrol moved pages on English Wikipedia.

So what is the official channel for getting the WMF to address these issues/requests - or is Phab simply the place they move stuff to they just don't want to do?

Sep 27 2017, 12:41 AM · Wikimedia-Site-requests
Kudpung added a comment to T159028: Unpatrol moved pages on English Wikipedia.

Can we please have some replies?

Sep 27 2017, 12:13 AM · Wikimedia-Site-requests

Sep 26 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T92621: Automatically review pages that were reverted to a previously reviewed state.

And the latest status of this is.......... ?

Sep 26 2017, 2:03 AM · Community-Tech (Kanban (Q1 2019-20)), Growth-Team, PageCuration

Sep 21 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T175225: Add a 'Learners' (autoconfirmed) filter to New Pages Feed and rename the existing 'new editors' filter.

On en.Wiki only authorised users are allowed to use the New Pages Feed. It is expected that they should be in the know. They receive a monthly newsletter (and more often if the need arises)

Sep 21 2017, 4:24 PM · MW-1.31-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-11-28 (1.31.0-wmf.10)), Patch-For-Review, Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-This-Quarter), PageCuration

Sep 6 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T124396: Allow moving to draftspace and tagging accordingly.

No coment? Just being ignored?

Sep 6 2017, 10:22 AM · Growth-Team, PageCuration, Collaboration-Team-Triage
Kudpung added a comment to T157054: Add "stub" as a possible issue (flagged in red) in the New Pages Feed/Page Curation Tool.

Where is the follow up to this? or am I missing something?

Sep 6 2017, 10:17 AM · Growth-Team, PageCuration, Collaboration-Team-Triage

Aug 18 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T50552: Make PageTriage wiki agnostic.

I wasn't discussing whether or not these features are acceptable . It is perfectly feasible to technically exclude prod from the dropdown list of actions.

Aug 18 2017, 12:52 AM · Growth-Team, Community-Wishlist-Survey-2015, I18n, PageCuration

Aug 17 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T50552: Make PageTriage wiki agnostic.

Yes. Those are pretty straightforward. I helped get one of them created. The problem is in the cognitive approach to using them - despite our efforts, a lot of people are still allowed to use these mechanisms without any knowledge of the policies that govern them. AFAIK, all Foundation Wikis have policies, and generally the same ones that are part of the basic WMF manifest. It's difficult to know what to do without introducing even more layers of bureaucracy - even at the lowest level.

Aug 17 2017, 1:05 AM · Growth-Team, Community-Wishlist-Survey-2015, I18n, PageCuration
Kudpung added a comment to T50552: Make PageTriage wiki agnostic.

One solution would be for those other wikis to adapt their workflow to that of en.Wiki. Our en.Wiki worklfow is nevertheless surprisingly straightforward.

Aug 17 2017, 12:10 AM · Growth-Team, Community-Wishlist-Survey-2015, I18n, PageCuration

Aug 6 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T50552: Make PageTriage wiki agnostic.

Who exactly decides that a development requirement is 'too expensive' ?

Aug 6 2017, 7:11 AM · Growth-Team, Community-Wishlist-Survey-2015, I18n, PageCuration

Jul 26 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T167475: Allow filtering by date range in Special:NewPagesFeed.

Any suggestions by the devs, please ask the NPP volunteers if the proposed solution is exactly what has been asked for before final roll out.

Jul 26 2017, 4:57 PM · Community-Tech, Growth-Team, PageCuration

Jul 22 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T124396: Allow moving to draftspace and tagging accordingly.

User:Evad37/MoveToDraft was written because of the WMF delay in writing it. It does everything the original request made since by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Czar on en.Wiki in 2015. It's since been requested by the community many, many times.
Can it now finally be added to the Curation Toolbar - primarily to restrict its use to the New Page Reviewer group to avoid its overuse/abuse by unqualified editors. Thanks.

Jul 22 2017, 12:44 AM · Growth-Team, PageCuration, Collaboration-Team-Triage

Jul 15 2017

Kudpung reopened T157056: Remove the 250 character limit from messages sent through the Page Curation Tool as "Open".

It appears that the request to remove the character limit s not working. See this post. The message box needs at least double that capacity.

Jul 15 2017, 12:35 AM · MW-1.29-release (WMF-deploy-2017-02-14_(1.29.0-wmf.12)), Patch-For-Review, Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), PageCuration

Jul 7 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T69859: Open up Deletion tag log for non PageCuration user scripts.

I would also like to reiterate that there has never been any consensus that deletion tagging should be restricted to New Page Reviewers. Such a proposal did not form part of the RfC and to my knowledge, such a proposal has never been made. However, if you are going to cite policy, please cite all of it, including:
Only a registered, logged-in user can complete steps II and III. (Autoconfirmed registered users can also use the Twinkle tool to make nominations.) If you are unregistered, you should complete step I, note the justification for deletion on the article's talk page, then post a message at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion requesting that someone else complete the process.

Jul 7 2017, 2:13 PM · Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration

Jun 26 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T147220: Remove the "Possible issues" section from PageTriage, if it is empty.

Update: This hasn't been addressed. The Curation tool is still showing 'No problems have been found for this page so far. '

Jun 26 2017, 6:43 AM · Community-Tech, MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-06-20_(1.30.0-wmf.6)), Patch-For-Review, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration
Kudpung added a comment to T147220: Remove the "Possible issues" section from PageTriage, if it is empty.

If it had been shelved, it would have either been been marked as declined or put in the "Freezer" column.

Jun 26 2017, 6:40 AM · Community-Tech, MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-06-20_(1.30.0-wmf.6)), Patch-For-Review, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration

Jun 18 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T69859: Open up Deletion tag log for non PageCuration user scripts.

There appears to still be some disparity between Page Curation, and Twinkle when Twinkle among its many other functions is being used as a page patroller tool. Ideally, specifically deletion tags, i.e. PROD, BLPPROD, CSD, AfD, should only be applied to articles by by New Page Reviewers.

Jun 18 2017, 6:44 PM · Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration

Jun 15 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T157051: Implement an icon for patrolled pages that have maintenance tags in the New Pages Feed.

What does "Medium-Term Interest on the Collaboration-Team-Triage board." mean?

Jun 15 2017, 11:12 AM · User-DannyS712, Growth-Team, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration

Jun 14 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T166269: What percentage of articles created by autoconfirmed users are deleted? What percentage by non-autoconfirmed?.

I do not see any comment by Tbayer on Scottywong's en.Wiki talk page.
It might help to ask Halfak (WMF) He did a major research into NPP at Patroller Work Load. He seems to know a lot about getting data. I believe he is one of the few WMF employees from that era who is still around today. More important than his research is the discussion on its talk page - but that affects a different current discussion.

Jun 14 2017, 10:38 PM · Product-Analytics, Contributors-Analysis
Kudpung added a comment to T166269: What percentage of articles created by autoconfirmed users are deleted? What percentage by non-autoconfirmed?.

When I said 'quickly', I meant that Scottywong made those graphs in a matter of days rather than weeks or months. IIRC, he did it over a weekend using two computers and they ran all night. What we need to understand is that these requests are being made in relation to the state of the New Page Patrol process. Graphics do help, so MusikAnimal's stats would look nice (for the non-tech minded volunteers) if presented as a pie chart. That said however, as New Page Reviewing appears to reveal some most unusually changing patterns, the request to see some graphs over a June 2016 through June 2017 sample does not seem unreasonable.

Jun 14 2017, 9:37 PM · Product-Analytics, Contributors-Analysis
Kudpung added a comment to T166269: What percentage of articles created by autoconfirmed users are deleted? What percentage by non-autoconfirmed?.

There are surely volunteers with excellent knowledge about this topic. Can you get that user to publish the SQL queries they mention on that page?

Jun 14 2017, 12:59 PM · Product-Analytics, Contributors-Analysis
Kudpung added a comment to T166269: What percentage of articles created by autoconfirmed users are deleted? What percentage by non-autoconfirmed?.

Anything that helps present the information in pictures leads to a more rapid understanding , especially when offered with some analog display drawn on a representative time window. The figures presented by MusikAnimal cover only November 2016, which do not permit an important comparison with the curve shown here covering the period that gave rise to the current discussions, and the older stats here, which gave rise to ACTRIAL.

Jun 14 2017, 7:34 AM · Product-Analytics, Contributors-Analysis
Kudpung added a comment to T166269: What percentage of articles created by autoconfirmed users are deleted? What percentage by non-autoconfirmed?.

I'm just curious to know what has changed that makes it so difficult to come up with nice clean graphs of a kind - the exact kind we need now - that a volunteer user was able to do so quickly for us at my request almost exactly 6 years ago to the day.

Jun 14 2017, 6:42 AM · Product-Analytics, Contributors-Analysis

Apr 28 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T156442: New User Landing Page - Article Creation Workflow.
This task was proposed in the Community-Wishlist-Survey-2016 and in its current state needs owner. Wikimedia is participating in Google Summer of Code 2017 and Outreachy Round 14. To the subscribers -- would this task or a portion of it be a good fit for either of these programs? If so, would you be willing to help mentor this project? Remember, each outreach project requires a minimum of one primary mentor, and co-mentor.
Apr 28 2017, 1:27 AM · Growth-Team, Wikimedia-Hackathon-2017, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration, Community-Wishlist-Survey-2016

Mar 11 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T156442: New User Landing Page - Article Creation Workflow.

"The Top 10'? You mean that 'letter to Santa' of convenience gadgets? Forgive me for reminding everyone but the strongest cases for prioritising this have been made for years - the project was even started by he WMF to stave off a community action the Foundation claimed (quite wrongly) conflicted with founding policy. What we are hearing now are typical politicians' arguments for not getting something done that is extremely urgent and necessary. More proof that those 'deciders' in the Foundation have little or no experience of administrative editing at the coal face and the wishlist scheme was about as realistic as the UK's Brexit poll or the latest US presidential election.

Mar 11 2017, 3:58 PM · Growth-Team, Wikimedia-Hackathon-2017, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration, Community-Wishlist-Survey-2016
Kudpung added a comment to T156442: New User Landing Page - Article Creation Workflow.

Why is this still being shunted around from one dev to another as if its a 'w e l l... it c o u l d be done if someone or a 'program' were sufficiently interested/motivated, instead of it being a core Foundation priority? If the WMF had fully realised the negative impact not having this feature is having on all the work of volunteers' work of maintaining Wikipedia, they could have had it done and finished four years ago when it was first begun.
It's now taken 9 months to simply get thus far since I started making serious noises about in June last year. It could have been built and rolled out in that time alone.

Mar 11 2017, 9:16 AM · Growth-Team, Wikimedia-Hackathon-2017, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration, Community-Wishlist-Survey-2016

Mar 2 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T159188: New pages feed/ page curation Wishlist changes.

Can you please clarify what you mean by 'I agree the task should either be closed, or at least made an Epic with meaningful self-contained subtasks. It has far too many unrelated items and is not actionable as is.' and how this statement can apply to one of the major and most sensitive of all Wkipedia operations?

Mar 2 2017, 8:01 AM · PageCuration, Community-Wishlist-Survey-2016, Collaboration-Team-Triage

Feb 22 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T158476: [Open Question] Automatically detecting accounts that do paid editing activity.

The patterns that can at least be fairly easily recognised by a clueful New Page Reviewers could indeed be recognised by a bot. Managing the matching of similar evidence across multiple pages/multiple accounts is generally beyond the scope of the average patroller, but a bot using some form of semantic searching/syntax recognition could probably do it.

Feb 22 2017, 4:52 AM · Research-Backlog

Feb 3 2017

Kudpung added a comment to T157130: Display ORES draftquality model prediction in PageCuration feed.

Whilst I welcome any form of AI that will help preserve a dwindling public respect for the quality of Wikipedia content, before deploying (or even developing) ORES for Page Curation, we need to establish why the patroller community is largely resistant to adopting the New Pages Feed and its Page Curation Tool as the default process for controlling new intake. The reasons are actually quite clear but on its own admission the Foundation no longer regards addressing them as a priority. AI is not a panacea - it should assist but not seek to replace the dysfunctional human aspect of of the triage of new pages, or be a palliative for the improvement of the parts of the Curation GUI that the Foundation will not prioritise.

Feb 3 2017, 11:23 PM · Growth-Team, artificial-intelligence, Scoring-platform-team, Collaboration-Team-Triage, draftquality-modeling, ORES, PageCuration

Dec 20 2016

Kudpung added a comment to T150628: Update PageTriage speedy deletion tag list to match Twinkle's.

OK. So I can edit the texts in the js for less clutter? Is is posible to put Wikilinks in those texts, like for example back to the policy pages? Or doesn't that work either outside the Pagetriage extension?

Dec 20 2016, 12:29 AM · Community-Tech, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration

Dec 19 2016

Kudpung added a comment to T150628: Update PageTriage speedy deletion tag list to match Twinkle's.

This doesn't look like HTML, but if someone will give me a line of code of whatever code it is, as this is an admin-accessible script I'll add it myself to all the portions of the script for each CSD criteria. If no body wants to do it here, please put it on my en.Wiki talk page. I have a newsletter waiting to go out to reviewers.

Dec 19 2016, 10:31 PM · Community-Tech, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration
Kudpung added a comment to T150628: Update PageTriage speedy deletion tag list to match Twinkle's.

Thanks @Kudpung! I've updated P4632 to define all tags (not just the new ones); this means they can go in the correct order.
The Unnecessary disambiguation page (G6) item (to insert db-disambig) doesn't have a talk-page notification template; is this correct?

Dec 19 2016, 10:13 PM · Community-Tech, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration
Kudpung added a comment to T150628: Update PageTriage speedy deletion tag list to match Twinkle's.

Thanks @Kudpung! I've updated P4632 to define all tags (not just the new ones); this means they can go in the correct order.
The Unnecessary disambiguation page (G6) item (to insert db-disambig) doesn't have a talk-page notification template; is this correct?

Dec 19 2016, 10:13 PM · Community-Tech, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration
Kudpung added a comment to T150628: Update PageTriage speedy deletion tag list to match Twinkle's.

I don't think CommTech is going to be able to work on the new requests, but it will be good to have them in Phabricator.

Dec 19 2016, 10:06 PM · Community-Tech, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration

Dec 18 2016

Kudpung added a comment to T150628: Update PageTriage speedy deletion tag list to match Twinkle's.

This is the list in the order it appears in Twinkle (less the ones that were deliberately left out). I realise this makes a bit more work for someone - my bad, I have been doing NPP for 10 years and I forgot that this is not all evident to everyone. The tooltips are for mouseover as in Twinkle.

Mark this page for speedy deletion only if it fits exactly one of the criteria below. There is no catch-all - if it doesn’t fit, use PROD or AfD.

Dec 18 2016, 9:53 AM · Community-Tech, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration
Kudpung added a comment to T150628: Update PageTriage speedy deletion tag list to match Twinkle's.

Iwill shortly post the list of criteria in the order in which they should apear in the Creation tool. Also, some of heir descriptions wil have been edited for brevity and less clutter - it is assumed that editors using the tool have read and understood the tutorial, so repeating everything should not be necessary.

Dec 18 2016, 6:12 AM · Community-Tech, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration
Kudpung added a comment to T150628: Update PageTriage speedy deletion tag list to match Twinkle's.

They seem to be working as expected but the order of the items on the list needs to be rearranged, and perhaps the generic A&entry shuld be removed.
Also (I don't know if these need to be filed as new Phab requests):

Dec 18 2016, 5:13 AM · Community-Tech, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration
Kudpung added a comment to T150628: Update PageTriage speedy deletion tag list to match Twinkle's.

Sunday morning now. I'll check it out immediately after breakfast.

Dec 18 2016, 4:00 AM · Community-Tech, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration

Dec 16 2016

Kudpung added a comment to T150628: Update PageTriage speedy deletion tag list to match Twinkle's.

I’m on IRC now but Samwilson is nit there.

Dec 16 2016, 7:19 AM · Community-Tech, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration
Kudpung added a comment to T150628: Update PageTriage speedy deletion tag list to match Twinkle's.

I'm on IRC now, but Samwilson is not there.

Dec 16 2016, 7:18 AM · Community-Tech, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration
Kudpung added a comment to T150628: Update PageTriage speedy deletion tag list to match Twinkle's.

That'a lot of js. I'd be scared I'd break the Wiki. How do I get on to IRC?

Dec 16 2016, 7:06 AM · Community-Tech, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration
Kudpung added a comment to T150628: Update PageTriage speedy deletion tag list to match Twinkle's.

What we do need is the 'CSD declined' feature, and the new 'Move to draft' feature

Dec 16 2016, 6:21 AM · Community-Tech, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration
Kudpung added a comment to T150628: Update PageTriage speedy deletion tag list to match Twinkle's.

If I knew how to add the js I would use my admin access a nd do it immediately. However, I am not a programmer, so I wouldn't have a clue about adding js or any other scripts to any part of Wikipedia or MediaWiki. My role is one of facilitator who from a hands-on aspect recognises the needs for quality control of our encyclopedic content, how it is best done using what we already have (and which can be improved upon), and helping the community to do it best. In that respect, Twinkle is of little actual use for the specific purpose of New Page Reviewing and provides no support for new users or even the reviewers. It doesn't even have a log system which makes it possible to monitor the performance of accredited patrollers. Twinkle's main job is for page protection, user welcomes, warnings and blocks, etc.

Dec 16 2016, 6:19 AM · Community-Tech, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration

Nov 21 2016

Kudpung added a comment to T150628: Update PageTriage speedy deletion tag list to match Twinkle's.

G6 move, G6 XfD, G6 history merge, G8 (both) and G13: These are all relevant because the admins who still need to patrol the work of the patrollers will effect these jobs when they come across the need (there should be a 'Curate this page' link showing in the side bar for cases where the Curation tool no longer automatically loads, as in the case of previously patrolled pages)..

Nov 21 2016, 9:56 AM · Community-Tech, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration

Nov 16 2016

Kudpung added a comment to T149019: Add the patroller group to the English Wikipedia.

We're not interested in what users will cry about. There have been two major RfC on this project and everyone has previously patrolled pages has been informed by newsletter. Anyone who can demonstrate suffiient competency to patrol new pages can apply for the right. in fact it's a great boon for the hat collectors, and note also that mhere were fewer than 30 or 40 truly active patrollers anyway and that's why the backlog is now at 14,000+ pages.

Nov 16 2016, 2:09 AM · User-Urbanecm, Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests

Nov 15 2016

Kudpung added a comment to T147220: Remove the "Possible issues" section from PageTriage, if it is empty.

This appears to either not be fully understood, or shelved because it's not understood. Can we just simply remove it from the Curation Toolbar It doesn't do anything and just serves t confuse.

Nov 15 2016, 6:29 PM · Community-Tech, MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-06-20_(1.30.0-wmf.6)), Patch-For-Review, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration
Kudpung added a comment to T147224: Update PageTriage maintenance tag list to match Twinkle's.

Yes, I am, and I’ve been asking for it for a while. Here it is again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_Curation/Suggested_improvements#21._More_granular_CSD_A7_criteria_as_per_Twinkle

Nov 15 2016, 2:24 PM · Community-Tech, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration

Nov 13 2016

Kudpung added a comment to T147224: Update PageTriage maintenance tag list to match Twinkle's.

This hasn't been done. Why is it tagged as RESOLVED?

Nov 13 2016, 9:44 AM · Community-Tech, Collaboration-Team-Triage, PageCuration

Oct 28 2016

Kudpung added a comment to T149019: Add the patroller group to the English Wikipedia.

Installing the grandfathered users will not take long. Perhaps one hour provided an admin or admins familiar with this project are available.

Oct 28 2016, 1:12 AM · User-Urbanecm, Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests

Oct 25 2016

Kudpung added a comment to T149019: Add the patroller group to the English Wikipedia.

Whatever needs to be done technically. It is intended that all ranks of sysop and above automatically have the new page reviewer right.

Oct 25 2016, 7:27 AM · User-Urbanecm, Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests
Kudpung added a comment to T149019: Add the patroller group to the English Wikipedia.

We will need data mining (Quarry?) to create a mass message list for the newsletter that has been prepared for all former and current patrollers.

Oct 25 2016, 3:09 AM · User-Urbanecm, Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests
Kudpung added a comment to T149019: Add the patroller group to the English Wikipedia.

According to the RfC the user right will be referred to locally in the future no longer as New Page Patroller, but as New Page Reviewer.

Oct 25 2016, 1:40 AM · User-Urbanecm, Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-Site-requests

Oct 4 2016

Kudpung added a comment to T146959: Investigation: Number of unreviewed pages on English Wikipedia skyrocketing in last few months.

Can we have Kaldari's chart with an X axis at 14-day steps since 01 Jan 2016 and a logarithmic line? Perhaps also with an extrapolation to what we can expect by the end of 2016.

Oct 4 2016, 1:23 AM · Community-Tech, Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q2-Oct-Dec-2016), PageCuration, Spike
Kudpung added a comment to T146959: Investigation: Number of unreviewed pages on English Wikipedia skyrocketing in last few months.

User:SwisterTwister may have significabtly reduced his patrolls during the sample period on my graph. He had been making an unusually high number of patrols. In the same period some other users have mentioned that they have shifted the focus of their work away from patrolling new pages and several new and/or inexperienced users have been asked to sop patrolling.

Oct 4 2016, 1:12 AM · Community-Tech, Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q2-Oct-Dec-2016), PageCuration, Spike